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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Nov 28, 2015 15:20:55 GMT -5
Reigns hate has surpassed '06'-'07 Cena hate. Reads the exact same to me, just with Cena now in the Triple H role of "guy some actively WANT to bury the new guy".  |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 28, 2015 15:28:10 GMT -5
Cena has actually lost clean a few times these past few years. Reigns hasn't had a clean singles lost since he's gone on his singles run. He's either screwed, tricked, blindsided or double/triple teamed. Think about that for a bit. How many times did Cena lose clean early in his initial mega push? Comparing a guy whose been on top for 10 years to a guy who they are trying to groom as the top guy for about a year is a little unfair. Cena also toiled in the midcard for a few years. He was on the chopping block and even the rapper gimmick that "saved his career" started out as a glorified lower card comedy schtick. Reigns by comparison was at the top of the card since the moment the Shield debuted. Even when they scaled back his push and took him out of the title picture, it never felt like Reigns was an actual midcarder the way Cena started out as. |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Nov 28, 2015 15:44:58 GMT -5
How many times did Cena lose clean early in his initial mega push? Comparing a guy whose been on top for 10 years to a guy who they are trying to groom as the top guy for about a year is a little unfair. Cena also toiled in the midcard for a few years. He was on the chopping block and even the rapper gimmick that "saved his career" started out as a glorified lower card comedy schtick. Reigns by comparison was at the top of the card since the moment the Shield debuted. Even when they scaled back his push and took him out of the title picture, it never felt like Reigns was an actual midcarder the way Cena started out as. Correct. Cena earned it all through the blood, the sweat, and the tears. Reigns came running in here like he was owed something as if it were free pancake day at IHOP. |
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 28, 2015 16:03:20 GMT -5
Reigns is a weird case for me right now. There are definitely guys who i'd rather see in his spot, but the ones who realistically WOULD be in his spot are all worse options.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 28, 2015 16:10:12 GMT -5
Me and my buddy were doing some geometry for class. We were arguing whether we should use an obtuse line or acute line for our project. Me, being bored, decided to hop on my laptop and browse the forum. Then, I saw this thread.
Immediately, I drew a line on the paper. When he asked me if I was using obtuse or acute, I said, "nah, I'm straight, brah."
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 28, 2015 16:12:08 GMT -5
Reigns hate has surpassed '06'-'07 Cena hate. Absolutely not. Not even close. |
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Post by Raskovnik on Nov 28, 2015 16:19:15 GMT -5
Reigns hate has surpassed '06'-'07 Cena hate. Absolutely not. Not even close. It at least rivals it. It's already insufferable here but it's even worse on other boards I go to. I still think the answer is "dude, go watch literally anything else." I mean all for discussing wrestling, that's why I joined a wrestling discussion board, but it's barely even discussing it any more. Just endless posts whining about something they know is never going to change instead of watching the zillions of other promotions and kickass wrestlers out there right this very second and discussing them. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 28, 2015 16:27:48 GMT -5
Cena also toiled in the midcard for a few years. He was on the chopping block and even the rapper gimmick that "saved his career" started out as a glorified lower card comedy schtick. Reigns by comparison was at the top of the card since the moment the Shield debuted. Even when they scaled back his push and took him out of the title picture, it never felt like Reigns was an actual midcarder the way Cena started out as. Correct. Cena earned it all through the blood, the sweat, and the tears. Reigns came running in here like he was owed something as if it were free pancake day at IHOP. There is nothing wrong with coming through with a prime attitude though. You need your people like Cena and Reigns. Because Reigns came from family doesn't mean he didn't earn it though blood, sweat, and tears. Some people are born different and i'm not going to hate them because they got a family connection and is being treated differently. It happens in my industry and it's a fact of life. Also let's not forget Roman was in the midcard with the tag belts. As a singles star he vaulted the midcard but he wouldn't be the first. |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 28, 2015 16:56:31 GMT -5
Absolutely not. Not even close. It at least rivals it. It's already insufferable here but it's even worse on other boards I go to. I still think the answer is "dude, go watch literally anything else." I mean all for discussing wrestling, that's why I joined a wrestling discussion board, but it's barely even discussing it any more. Just endless posts whining about something they know is never going to change instead of watching the zillions of other promotions and kickass wrestlers out there right this very second and discussing them. Not in live audiences. Reigns gets a positive reaction, usually mixed but rarely outright boos. Cena was booed out of every building for two years and was shoved down our throats far worse than Reigns has been. |
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 28, 2015 18:04:48 GMT -5
It at least rivals it. It's already insufferable here but it's even worse on other boards I go to. I still think the answer is "dude, go watch literally anything else." I mean all for discussing wrestling, that's why I joined a wrestling discussion board, but it's barely even discussing it any more. Just endless posts whining about something they know is never going to change instead of watching the zillions of other promotions and kickass wrestlers out there right this very second and discussing them. Not in live audiences. Reigns gets a positive reaction, usually mixed but rarely outright boos. Cena was booed out of every building for two years and was shoved down our throats far worse than Reigns has been. I haven't been watching but have there been any "If Reigns wins we riot" signs? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 18:15:26 GMT -5
Cena has actually lost clean a few times these past few years. Reigns hasn't had a clean singles lost since he's gone on his singles run. He's either screwed, tricked, blindsided or double/triple teamed. Think about that for a bit. How many times did Cena lose clean early in his initial mega push? Comparing a guy whose been on top for 10 years to a guy who they are trying to groom as the top guy for about a year is a little unfair. Like stated, Cena was in the midcard a good while taking loses, was almost fired, gradually getting better and he wasn't as invincible as Reigns is now. You add that to the fact that, again, Reigns hasn't had a clean loss since he became a single's star, it's a problem. Besides, I read this earlier but do you know want to know all the stuff the company's done to get Reigns over? Was always the hot tag in The Shield. Rarely took the pinfall for The Shield. Made "The Leader" during the Shield's final days. Was the main focus of the Evolution/Wyatts feud.
Broke Survivor Series elimination record.
Broke The Rumble elimination record.
Retained all Shield likeness, including the entrance through the crowd (ensures that it always looks like the crowd is into him).
Blatant use of Samoan heritage.
Got the rub from The Rock. As above, exploited Dean Ambrose's popularity. Daniel Bryan begging us to like Roman. Paul Heyman begging us to like Roman. Always gets the stipulation matches (eg HIAC, Seth/Kane made more sense to be in the cell). Always get's the cool spots on the show, while the rest of the card have to tone it down, (Ambrose/Harper broke no tables in an Extreme Rules match while Show/Reigns broke all and Ambrose always breaks tables).
Using his own child for storyline purposes (Bray Wyatt)
Rehashing the Daniel Bryan underdog storyThat's just stuff that Cena did not get. He didn't get ANY of these things. All he had is hardwork, finding a character for himself and then using it to his advantage. It's a different story. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 28, 2015 19:49:58 GMT -5
This is probably the one thing that would actually get Roman over as a face. I was thinking this is the one thing that would get Cena universally cheered. It probably would. Cena vs. Reigns in a city like Philly or NYC would probably result in Cena getting cheered. Reigns is the new public enemy number one as far as WWE golden boys go. |
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Nov 28, 2015 19:52:29 GMT -5
I would actually love to see that match
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Post by Widow's Peak on Nov 28, 2015 20:13:48 GMT -5
Reigns hate has gotten to ridiculous levels if people are clamouring for Cena of all people to squash him. Because if there's one thing that will make sure that there's no staleness in the main event, it's a good old-fashioned Cena Wins (lol) moment.  |
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Nov 28, 2015 21:28:15 GMT -5
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Nov 28, 2015 23:59:09 GMT -5
How many times did Cena lose clean early in his initial mega push? Comparing a guy whose been on top for 10 years to a guy who they are trying to groom as the top guy for about a year is a little unfair. Cena also toiled in the midcard for a few years. He was on the chopping block and even the rapper gimmick that "saved his career" started out as a glorified lower card comedy schtick. Reigns by comparison was at the top of the card since the moment the Shield debuted. Even when they scaled back his push and took him out of the title picture, it never felt like Reigns was an actual midcarder the way Cena started out as. Yes, but is it Roman's fault? Dude is still plenty talented and worthy of his push, it's the booking of his push that kinda stinks. It's sorta like the reverse where Cena first year or so was kinda flat, then they found something that worked. Roman came in with something that worked, built up on that, then felt they needed to try to make him a Cena 2 as opposed to a Reigns 1. Hell, Roman is a better worker at this stage of his career than Cena was at year 3 of his WWE career. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Nov 29, 2015 2:31:22 GMT -5
Cena also toiled in the midcard for a few years. He was on the chopping block and even the rapper gimmick that "saved his career" started out as a glorified lower card comedy schtick. Reigns by comparison was at the top of the card since the moment the Shield debuted. Even when they scaled back his push and took him out of the title picture, it never felt like Reigns was an actual midcarder the way Cena started out as. Yes, but is it Roman's fault? Dude is still plenty talented and worthy of his push, it's the booking of his push that kinda stinks. It's sorta like the reverse where Cena first year or so was kinda flat, then they found something that worked. Roman came in with something that worked, built up on that, then felt they needed to try to make him a Cena 2 as opposed to a Reigns 1. Hell, Roman is a better worker at this stage of his career than Cena was at year 3 of his WWE career. I think Bret Hart hit the nail on the head. Roman is Kevin Nash. He was getting over on his own and then the brass decided that he was going to be the next big champion and pushed him too hard before he was ready. He then put him over as a worker and said he was just dealt a bad hand and they should let him be himself. |
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Post by Starshine on Nov 29, 2015 2:56:51 GMT -5
The biggest difference between Cena and Reigns, is that Cena was already over at a main event level before they pushed him there.
Hogan. Austin. Rock. Cena. Reigns. One of these things is not like the others.
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Post by audiencewatching on Nov 29, 2015 4:12:33 GMT -5
You know what, I wouldn't even care.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 29, 2015 7:40:46 GMT -5
How some react at the mere mention and sight of Roman; You would assume he ruined their Thanksgiving dinner by bitch slapping their momma, knocked out their dad, and fondled their sister's breasts before pissing on the candied yams & shitting on the turkey. For people who hate Reigns, you guys ride him like your last name is Earnhardt.
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