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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 4, 2015 21:32:24 GMT -5
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 4, 2015 21:57:16 GMT -5
I think the first two years they got it right, then all the BS started.
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Post by The_Don_Mecha on Dec 4, 2015 22:26:17 GMT -5
Texas-USC Auburn-Oregon FSU-Auburn OSU-Miami
All of these teams were undefeated or one loss teams who were extremely deserving and beat top competition (Auburn beating Georgia and Alabama en route to the SEC Championship in 2013).
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 5, 2015 0:17:13 GMT -5
How the hell did Florida State get in over Miami in 2000? Miami beat them in Wide Right III. So they were both 11-1, and Miami should've had the tiebreaker with head to head.
OU vs. Miami would've been a much better title game.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 5, 2015 1:07:13 GMT -5
How the hell did Florida State get in over Miami in 2000? Miami beat them in Wide Right III. So they were both 11-1, and Miami should've had the tiebreaker with head to head. OU vs. Miami would've been a much better title game. And Washington should have been in ahead of Miami, considering Miami's only loss that season came to Washington, who also had 1 loss. Washington also handed Oregon State their only loss.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 5, 2015 14:06:34 GMT -5
USC v Texas Auburn Oregon FSU v Auburn LSU v Oklahoma...just Kiddin Bama v LSU. go ahead and let me hear it. If we didn't beat this up enough in 2012 why not rehash the same argument
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 5, 2015 15:16:22 GMT -5
How the hell did Florida State get in over Miami in 2000? Miami beat them in Wide Right III. So they were both 11-1, and Miami should've had the tiebreaker with head to head. OU vs. Miami would've been a much better title game. And Washington should have been in ahead of Miami, considering Miami's only loss that season came to Washington, who also had 1 loss. Washington also handed Oregon State their only loss. At first, I didn't believe you, so I had to look and see who Oregon State's coach was that year. And I saw it was Dennis Erickson. So I was like, "Alright, good. Didn't want to think Mike Riley was actually a GOOD coach once."
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 5, 2015 16:49:36 GMT -5
LSU and Bama were anointed the two best teams early and for whatever reason, everyone seemed to accept it.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 5, 2015 20:47:03 GMT -5
LSU and Bama were anointed the two best teams early and for whatever reason, everyone seemed to accept it. I understand your point, but from my perspective they demonstrated every single snap that they were the best two teams in the country. I watched a lot of football that season. I scrutinized the top few teams. Oklahoma state and Stanford lost when they shouldn't have to teams they shouldn't have. They eliminated themselves. This season was the last straw and we got a playoff BC of it. But I'll remind everyone of how much support an Ohio state v Michiagan rematch had in 2007. When it didn't happen a ton of people said they should have done it and I do not recall a great many people playing the "same conference" card then. For what it's worth I wanted the OSU/UM rematch for the BCS title but when they put Floral da in I accepted that because Florida was in fact that good and that point is validated by the victory the gators got in said championship game. By the same logic Bama showed they deserved to be there and were validated by their victory.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 5, 2015 20:47:59 GMT -5
People didn't accept it on here
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Post by ICBM on Dec 5, 2015 21:12:24 GMT -5
People didn't accept it on here The Ohio state Michigan deal or LSU Bama in 11? I was arounfpd the CFB thread in 11 and I know it was not accepted. I'm just sayin we talked it to death and nobody changed their minds. I was in wrestlecrap in 07 but didn't do the CFB threads back then
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 5, 2015 21:13:13 GMT -5
LSU Bama
Back then we had a lot more people in the threads
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 5, 2015 22:36:34 GMT -5
LSU/Bama were the two best teams.
One can argue about whether there should've been a rematch or not, but they were the best that year.
I was angry in 07 when the Hogs gave LSU their second loss yet they still got to the title. That was bogus.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 5, 2015 23:01:15 GMT -5
LSU/Bama were the two best teams. One can argue about whether there should've been a rematch or not, but they were the best that year. I was angry in 07 when the Hogs gave LSU their second loss yet they still got to the title. That was bogus. LSU deserved it in 2007, that was the most insane season in college football. KU did end the season with 1 loss, but they didn't even play for the Big 12 title let alone win it, and they also only beat 3 teams with winning records (2 teams at 7-6 and one at 8-6). Hawaii while undefeated had a horrible defense, and their best non-conference win was against Washington. After that it comes down to 3 teams, LSU, USC, and Oklahoma, and LSU deserved it over everyone else.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 6, 2015 0:11:36 GMT -5
LSU and Bama were anointed the two best teams early and for whatever reason, everyone seemed to accept it. I understand your point, but from my perspective they demonstrated every single snap that they were the best two teams in the country. I watched a lot of football that season. I scrutinized the top few teams. Oklahoma state and Stanford lost when they shouldn't have to teams they shouldn't have. They eliminated themselves. This season was the last straw and we got a playoff BC of it. But I'll remind everyone of how much support an Ohio state v Michiagan rematch had in 2007. When it didn't happen a ton of people said they should have done it and I do not recall a great many people playing the "same conference" card then. For what it's worth I wanted the OSU/UM rematch for the BCS title but when they put Floral da in I accepted that because Florida was in fact that good and that point is validated by the victory the gators got in said championship game. By the same logic Bama showed they deserved to be there and were validated by their victory. At least LSU had the balls to schedule Oregon and go to Morgantown. Bama OTOH did not face a competent offense outside Arkansas. Beat up on lousy offenses, and you didn't hear anyone call out their weak schedule.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Dec 7, 2015 7:47:05 GMT -5
Tennessee/Florida State - Correct FSU/Va. Tech - Correct Oklahoma/FSU - Incorrect; should have been Oklahoma/Washington Miami/Nebraska - Incorrect; should have been Miami/Oregon Miami/Ohio State - Correct LSU/Oklahoma - Incorrect; should have been LSU/USC USC/Oklahoma - Hard to say. A four team playoff with these two, Auburn and Utah would have been more appropriate. USC/Texas - Correct Ohio State/Florida - Correct LSU/Ohio State - Correct Florida/Oklahoma - Correct for what the circumstances were. Alabama/Texas - Hard to say. A four team playoff with these two, TCU and Boise would have been better. Auburn/Oregon - Correct LSU/Alabama - Incorrect; should have been LSU/Oklahoma State Alabama/Notre Dame - Correct Florida State/Auburn - Correct
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Post by kevin on Dec 7, 2015 11:06:08 GMT -5
the biggest problem with such a small sample size is with just 2 teams it is impossible to say what was right with 4 teams it is impossible to say with the size of college football you need 16 teams to have a system that insures you don't get a mess up. I know people don't want that as they want the regular season to have lots of meaningless games with most teams being eliminated before the season even starts. Given that BCS system and the current one the idea that at any time we knew who the best college team was at the end of the season is a joke because of how many teams there are and how few of them play against each other.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Dec 7, 2015 12:20:55 GMT -5
the biggest problem with such a small sample size is with just 2 teams it is impossible to say what was right with 4 teams it is impossible to say with the size of college football you need 16 teams to have a system that insures you don't get a mess up. I know people don't want that as they want the regular season to have lots of meaningless games with most teams being eliminated before the season even starts. Given that BCS system and the current one the idea that at any time we knew who the best college team was at the end of the season is a joke because of how many teams there are and how few of them play against each other. Yet we sometimes still get meaningless games if the two have to play a week later in a CCG. That said, CCGs need to be abolished. Go to an NFL esqe tiebreaker system.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 7, 2015 16:56:49 GMT -5
the biggest problem with such a small sample size is with just 2 teams it is impossible to say what was right with 4 teams it is impossible to say with the size of college football you need 16 teams to have a system that insures you don't get a mess up. I know people don't want that as they want the regular season to have lots of meaningless games with most teams being eliminated before the season even starts. Given that BCS system and the current one the idea that at any time we knew who the best college team was at the end of the season is a joke because of how many teams there are and how few of them play against each other. Yet we sometimes still get meaningless games if the two have to play a week later in a CCG. That said, CCGs need to be abolished. Go to an NFL esqe tiebreaker system. On the contrary- if you need CCGs, the better option to get as close to perfect as you can would be: Dissolve two of the Other Five Conferences and divvy them up between the remaining eight conferences. Force Notre Dame, BYU, and Army to join a conference. That leaves you with eight superconferences. From there, simple as anything. Each conference has a championship game, and an 8-team playoff, only the conference champs need apply (but with CCGs, it's "REALLY" a 16-team championship.)
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Dec 7, 2015 18:22:04 GMT -5
Yet we sometimes still get meaningless games if the two have to play a week later in a CCG. That said, CCGs need to be abolished. Go to an NFL esqe tiebreaker system. On the contrary- if you need CCGs, the better option to get as close to perfect as you can would be: Dissolve two of the Other Five Conferences and divvy them up between the remaining eight conferences. Force Notre Dame, BYU, and Army to join a conference. That leaves you with eight superconferences. From there, simple as anything. Each conference has a championship game, and an 8-team playoff, only the conference champs need apply (but with CCGs, it's "REALLY" a 16-team championship.) I'd merge the C-USA with the MAC and Sun Belt with the Mountain West. The best of each conference of course.
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