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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 9, 2015 20:23:30 GMT -5
Inspired by a thread in the WWE forums. I actually agree that TNA should have put the belt on him and let him be their first really home grown star, I would like to speculate what the ultimate effect would have been. Its really not like it would have launched some sort of boom period where TNA would have grown explosively. But at the very least it may have spared us the Jeff Jarret Reign of Terror, and maybe it might have steered TNA away from the precedent of ex-WWE stars being booked over the home team. But beyond that I don't see much. Thoughts?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 9, 2015 20:28:15 GMT -5
It's nuts that they didn't.
He wouldn't have caused a boom, TNA wouldn't have competed with WWE or anything like that. No matter what they did, that was NEVER gonna happen.
But he could've been a huge star/standard bearer for em.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 9, 2015 20:33:22 GMT -5
Inspired by a thread in the WWE forums. I actually agree that TNA should have put the belt on him and let him be their first really home grown star, I would like to speculate what the ultimate effect would have been. Its really not like it would have launched some sort of boom period where TNA would have grown explosively. But at the very least it may have spared us the Jeff Jarret Reign of Terror, and maybe it might have steered TNA away from the precedent of ex-WWE stars being booked over the home team. But beyond that I don't see much. Thoughts? Even the very little that would have been there probably would have been enough. That reputation of ex-WWE stars waltzing in and destroying the homegrowns, making TNA's homegrown roster look like they didn't belong on a national stage- is really what's made TNA's reputation plummet. Whether or not Brown could have been a good long term champion, the facts are there. Only one truly TNA homegrown was NWA World Champion in Abyss, and the TNA World Title only had four truly homegrown stars hold the belt: Bobby Roode, Chris Sabin, Magnus, and Eric Young. Of this list, only Roode could be argued was a slam dunk World Champion who won the title with absolutely no controversy whatsoever surrounding it. That is woeful for a promotion in existence for 13 years to have directly scouted only five world champions- and it's the hope a Brown reign would have helped change things that proves how necessary it was.
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Post by Halloween on Dec 10, 2015 6:22:10 GMT -5
I like Monty Brown. Great talent and reminded me of a more charismatic Goldberg.
HOWEVER, in 2005 (When most people feel Brown should have won the title) the guy had only wrestled for like 10 months in TNA. Also, despite being over in the Impact Zone TNA were still looking to tour, draw TV ratings and sell PPV's. There was no way of telling if Monty Brown was over enough to attract a casual non Impact zone fan and that demographic was vital for TNA in 2005. Goldberg won the title in a similar amount of time but WCW could gauge their nationwide audience on Goldberg and whether or not they liked Goldberg whilst TNA could not.
Also, people always claim Jeff Jarrett "buried" Monty Brown but if you watch the Final Resolution 2005 match between the two they made Brown look like a monster. I believe Jeff Jarrett had to smash two guitars over Brown's head, use the belt and hit him with The Stroke TWICE to come away with the win.
Creatively they should have never turned him heel. I think I'd have held off on the Brown title run until 2007. TNA were doing House Shows in 2006 I believe so they could have seen how the fans felt about Brown and if it was all positive they should have re-signed him and given him the run in 2007. I still think the 2005 heel turn is what hurt Brown the most. He should have been their Goldberg.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 10, 2015 6:31:14 GMT -5
I think that they'd have probably been better off if they had run with Monty Brown more, but I think he ultimately would have ended up in WWE eventually, regardless. That said, if his sister still died, I think he'd leave wrestling as he did no matter where he was working.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 10, 2015 7:50:37 GMT -5
They would have had to actually commit to him.
Which is something TNA has never really done to any of their homegrown people.
I mean when the owner of the company says taht the person EVERYONE saw as the face of the company was "coming into his own" right before he left...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 8:17:29 GMT -5
It probably wouldn't have shaken things up too much in the long run, but at least would've saved them some earlier ridicule and could've potentially dissuaded them from the, "All our guys suck, ex-WWE for life!" approach that's nowadays a big part of why the company's seen as such a joke.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 10, 2015 9:00:55 GMT -5
I actually think TNA Champ Monty Brown was one of the very few chances to break out of "lol TNA" and into real serious WWE-Alternative competition. Not necessarily like WCW vs WWE competition. But TNA could have been a very solid #2 with a real TV deal and actually paying their staff with real money.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 11, 2015 1:17:55 GMT -5
It's nuts that they didn't. He wouldn't have caused a boom, TNA wouldn't have competed with WWE or anything like that. No matter what they did, that was NEVER gonna happen. But he could've been a huge star/standard bearer for em. Also would have helped to show there wasn't a glass ceiling for guys that weren't WWE or WCW mainstays which was one of the big complaints from both fans and a some indie guys at one point. So while short term it might not have been a huge boon for them, who knows in the long term.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 17, 2015 8:53:44 GMT -5
actually paying their staff with real money. IDK. Rockstar Spud has a pretty sweet deal. Everytime he passes go he collects $200.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 17, 2015 10:59:07 GMT -5
He would lost to Jeff Jarrett before he built any real momentum. It happened to AJ Styles and Ron Killings. Monty would suffer the same fate.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 17, 2015 12:24:39 GMT -5
Back in 2005, I really wasn't on the "put the belt on Brown" bandwagon; dude was still pretty green, still felt like he had a ways to go. I actually thought his heel turn did him some good purely from an in-ring standpoint, as by the end of it he was working some decent matches as he took the initiative to control matches and pace them better.
Still, the guy had magnetism, and they should've had a clear long-term plan for him, which they clearly lacked. In a way, that's kind of the story of TNA.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 18, 2015 5:33:04 GMT -5
It probably wouldn't have shaken things up too much in the long run, but at least would've saved them some earlier ridicule and could've potentially dissuaded them from the, "All our guys suck, ex-WWE for life!" approach that's nowadays a big part of why the company's seen as such a joke. This is probably the best answer, with the sidenote of not having Jeff Jarrett as champion for a bit of time, which was also a major negative for the company's reputation at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 15:42:04 GMT -5
The fact that they didn't was the first, true LOLTNA moment.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2015 2:02:17 GMT -5
The fact that they didn't was the first, true LOLTNA moment. not by a long shot...
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Post by Clawley Race on Dec 19, 2015 2:14:32 GMT -5
He would have offered to bring the title to Monday Night Raw. Vince & Co would have decided not to sign someone who was so stupid. He would have continued his TNA career until his family crisis happened. He would not have been given a WWE Legends deal and lent a helping hand. It was the best thing to ever happen to him!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 2:48:06 GMT -5
The fact that they didn't was the first, true LOLTNA moment. not by a long shot... He could and should have been their first big star. They left a lot of money on the table by not pushing him to the moon.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2015 2:53:16 GMT -5
He could and should have been their first big star. They left a lot of money on the table by not pushing him to the moon. I meant it was nowhere near their first LOLTNA moment. They had a lot of really stupid things on their weekly PPV's. Like trying to turn Ricky Steamboat heel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 2:56:18 GMT -5
He could and should have been their first big star. They left a lot of money on the table by not pushing him to the moon. I meant it was nowhere near their first LOLTNA moment. They had a lot of really stupid things on their weekly PPV's. Like trying to turn Ricky Steamboat heel. Ah. Very true. To me it is the first major LOLTNA moment because he really could have been the guy of TNA. Instead, he takes a backseat to Jarrett. Ridiculous. I LOVED him when I first got into TNA in 2004. I was 8 at the time and he was my favorite on the roster besides Jeff Hardy. I loved screaming "THE POOOOOUNCE-AH! PERIOD!" lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 17:09:44 GMT -5
Wouldn't have changed much in the grand scheme, mainly because JJ's sorry ass would have won the belt back from him somehow a few months later instead of Monty wrecking shop.
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