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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 14, 2015 21:19:00 GMT -5
If Sami Callihan is still allowed to work all his indy dates, I think he's one of the biggest and best signings they could make right now as he's a hot property. I'm pretty sure Callihan believes he just needs to refresh himself on the indies and he can eventually make it back to the WWE. He's not gonna chance that by signing with TNA. Maybe in a couple of years if TNA is still around and the WWE is not interested he might go to TNA, but I doubt 2016.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Dec 14, 2015 21:59:33 GMT -5
Baba Rai Delhi.
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Post by Halloween on Dec 15, 2015 1:44:14 GMT -5
Was just posting in another thread and did a little comparison piece in regards to TNA's roster going into DA and going into Pop. Considerable difference but upon looking at TNA's actual roster it's an incredibly sad state of affairs and the only under card guys I have any interest in are literally Andrew Everett and The Wolves. Main event roster is kind of lacking as well although I'm interested in more than three of TNA's main event talents. Anyway, with TNA having just 29 male wrestlers (31 if you count Snow and Dreamer) on their roster one has to assume that 2016 will bring talent signings. Keeping in mind that TNA's signings this year have mostly been WWE releases from 2014 (Galloway, Drake, Micah) or very young independent guys (Andrew Everett, Trevor Lee) So, with that in mind who do you think TNA will sign/who would you like them to sign? I personally think with Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle both leaving TNA will be desperate to sign a big star and with Rey Mysterio appearing in promotion material for Lucha Underground and signing with the company I only see one man signing with TNA and that's Rob Van Dam. The only way it won't be Van Dam replacing these two guys is if TNA doesn't sign a big star at all or if WWE happens to release one of their big stars in 2016. For the midcard I'm not sure who is out there. WWE, ROH, Lucha Underground, NJPW and AAA pretty much have all the great independent talent under lock and key and even for the free agent talent that isn't signed to any of those five companies TNA still has a terrible reputation so their options are limited. Regardless, I'd like to see TNA pick up Brian Meyers for their Tag Team division and pair him up with Jessie Godderz as a generic arrogant tag team. I don't know where Jigsaw is at but if he isn't signed anywhere I think he'd be a good heel for the X-Division. So for me, Van Dam to replace the two stars TNA are losing, Brian Meyers and Jigsaw. I'm sure someone with knowledge of independent talent can probably do a much better job. Suggest away. Don't expect a Major name signing because they don't have the budget for it. Hints way the big names are leaving and slowly going out. The reality is they don't need a big star because history shown, IT DOESN'T make a difference because TNA doesn't know how to use them. It takes no time for them to sign a big name and make them just another name on the roster. Think about it and how those names are when they went back to the WWE. Sting in the WWE most fans acted like it was the first time anybody saw Sting since WCW and thats from a guy who was in TNA for the last 10 years before that. Why sign RVD when the man was World champion there already and had NO impact. The fact the whole time RVD was there he phoned in everything. Why waste the money? Big names in TNA as proven to add very little only because the one thing that isn't changes and that is the booking of it. Just look at the ratings for Spike TV over the years and who was on that roster or added in. It still was 1.3 max regardless what major player debut or returned, or which one became World champion. First of all, with Angle leaving this would free up a significant amount of money (You'd have to figure at least a couple hundred thousand right? Surely...) that could be used on Van Dam. I don't know what Van Dam gets per each date but if TNA offered him 200,000 to do every single date TNA has in 2016 I'm sure he'd take it especially considering it's likely to be 5-6 taping block dates, 2 Pay Per Views, 3 India dates (If that ever happens again) and a few House Shows (Less than 5). That's about 8 weeks of actual work and whole hell of a lot of weekly money for nothing. Second, why sign RVD? I'm not a particularly huge RVD fan but the only two remaining "big name" talents in the free agent pool are Goldberg (Unlikely to come) and Rob Van Dam. As it stands if TNA has to promote a House Show or is promoting an Indian tour or is making a big announcement in Pakistan it's always Angle that does it because he's a recognisable name to international audiences. He's famous enough that people want to talk to him and discuss a moment in 2002 or what have you. Van Dam is also that big of a star. He is someone you can put on the local news and people will recognise him and maybe even buy a ticket because Van Dam is in town. He's relatively fresh off of WWE TV (Last appearance was August 2014) and is a huge fan favourite. In terms of ratings I can't see them improving but I think Van Dam can increase live attendance and give you a recognisable face/name to sell shows with and at least you can try to bring the casuals back into watching TNA. As long as TNA sends Van Dam out on media tours to promote House Shows and Pay Per Views he'll be worth the money. From an in ring standpoint he's been away from TNA long enough that there are some compelling matches available for him to partake in. EC3/RVD, Davey/RVD, Eddie/RVD and Galloway/RVD are all fresh matches and I wouldn't mind seeing Roode/RVD and even EY/RVD again. If Hardy sticks around I'd watch Jeff/RVD as well.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 15, 2015 2:22:44 GMT -5
First of all, with Angle leaving this would free up a significant amount of money (You'd have to figure at least a couple hundred thousand right? Surely...) that could be used on Van Dam. I don't know what Van Dam gets per each date but if TNA offered him 200,000 to do every single date TNA has in 2016 I'm sure he'd take it especially considering it's likely to be 5-6 taping block dates, 2 Pay Per Views, 3 India dates (If that ever happens again) and a few House Shows (Less than 5). That's about 8 weeks of actual work and whole hell of a lot of weekly money for nothing. Second, why sign RVD? I'm not a particularly huge RVD fan but the only two remaining "big name" talents in the free agent pool are Goldberg (Unlikely to come) and Rob Van Dam. As it stands if TNA has to promote a House Show or is promoting an Indian tour or is making a big announcement in Pakistan it's always Angle that does it because he's a recognisable name to international audiences. He's famous enough that people want to talk to him and discuss a moment in 2002 or what have you. Van Dam is also that big of a star. He is someone you can put on the local news and people will recognise him and maybe even buy a ticket because Van Dam is in town. He's relatively fresh off of WWE TV (Last appearance was August 2014) and is a huge fan favourite. In terms of ratings I can't see them improving but I think Van Dam can increase live attendance and give you a recognisable face/name to sell shows with and at least you can try to bring the casuals back into watching TNA. As long as TNA sends Van Dam out on media tours to promote House Shows and Pay Per Views he'll be worth the money. From an in ring standpoint he's been away from TNA long enough that there are some compelling matches available for him to partake in. EC3/RVD, Davey/RVD, Eddie/RVD and Galloway/RVD are all fresh matches and I wouldn't mind seeing Roode/RVD and even EY/RVD again. If Hardy sticks around I'd watch Jeff/RVD as well. The problem with that is that honestly, Rob Van Dam means nothing on the free agent pool anymore. His WWE run, and his first TNA run, made RVD into just another midcarder. He'd roughly be at the same level as if TNA tried to see about seeing if Christian was still willing to accept his retirement from WWE or to try and wrestle again for TNA to get him back- and Christian would also be at "no real dot moving." Going for a big-name free agent won't work unless TNA were willing to go all in on the "Does Daniel Bryan choose to leave WWE to keep wrestling" Hail Mary move- and even then, the fact Jeff Hardy went from "WWE's most over babyface in 2009" to "barely able to move the dial in TNA" means even Bryan wouldn't help them. These tie to the other problem- signing unknown or lesser known performers is actually BETTER for TNA, since it's clear that TNA's booking and mediocrity will move everyone to about the same level of draw. This will drop any big name free agent to TNA's level of mediocrity...but it will also RAISE any smaller name free agent's profile to that point as well. Therefore, it's more logical to sign unknowns and watch them rise than sign big names and watch them plummet to nothingness.
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Post by Dragonfly on Dec 15, 2015 2:25:34 GMT -5
The Rock's cousin twice removed uncle's son's friend. I know you're joking, but... "Vince might have the 'Roman Empire,' but we have LANCE!"
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Post by Aya Reiko on Dec 15, 2015 2:32:03 GMT -5
Bram, Bram, Bram, Bram, and, in a swerve, Marb.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 15, 2015 2:37:12 GMT -5
If they've repaired their relationship with Ian Rotten... {Spoiler}
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 15, 2015 2:55:29 GMT -5
Don't expect a Major name signing because they don't have the budget for it. Hints way the big names are leaving and slowly going out. The reality is they don't need a big star because history shown, IT DOESN'T make a difference because TNA doesn't know how to use them. It takes no time for them to sign a big name and make them just another name on the roster. Think about it and how those names are when they went back to the WWE. Sting in the WWE most fans acted like it was the first time anybody saw Sting since WCW and thats from a guy who was in TNA for the last 10 years before that. Why sign RVD when the man was World champion there already and had NO impact. The fact the whole time RVD was there he phoned in everything. Why waste the money? Big names in TNA as proven to add very little only because the one thing that isn't changes and that is the booking of it. Just look at the ratings for Spike TV over the years and who was on that roster or added in. It still was 1.3 max regardless what major player debut or returned, or which one became World champion. First of all, with Angle leaving this would free up a significant amount of money (You'd have to figure at least a couple hundred thousand right? Surely...) that could be used on Van Dam. I don't know what Van Dam gets per each date but if TNA offered him 200,000 to do every single date TNA has in 2016 I'm sure he'd take it especially considering it's likely to be 5-6 taping block dates, 2 Pay Per Views, 3 India dates (If that ever happens again) and a few House Shows (Less than 5). That's about 8 weeks of actual work and whole hell of a lot of weekly money for nothing. Second, why sign RVD? I'm not a particularly huge RVD fan but the only two remaining "big name" talents in the free agent pool are Goldberg (Unlikely to come) and Rob Van Dam. As it stands if TNA has to promote a House Show or is promoting an Indian tour or is making a big announcement in Pakistan it's always Angle that does it because he's a recognisable name to international audiences. He's famous enough that people want to talk to him and discuss a moment in 2002 or what have you. Van Dam is also that big of a star. He is someone you can put on the local news and people will recognise him and maybe even buy a ticket because Van Dam is in town. He's relatively fresh off of WWE TV (Last appearance was August 2014) and is a huge fan favourite. In terms of ratings I can't see them improving but I think Van Dam can increase live attendance and give you a recognisable face/name to sell shows with and at least you can try to bring the casuals back into watching TNA. As long as TNA sends Van Dam out on media tours to promote House Shows and Pay Per Views he'll be worth the money. From an in ring standpoint he's been away from TNA long enough that there are some compelling matches available for him to partake in. EC3/RVD, Davey/RVD, Eddie/RVD and Galloway/RVD are all fresh matches and I wouldn't mind seeing Roode/RVD and even EY/RVD again. If Hardy sticks around I'd watch Jeff/RVD as well. If TNA has $200,000 of extra money laying around, they shouldn't be blowing it all on one guy. That Money should be used to pay their remaining talent, revamping and restructuring their production to something cheap-but-still-semi-professional-looking, and to sign other young guys to contracts. Like some young Indy prospect who wants to put "TNA Superstar" on his resume so that he can expand his brand and get more Indy bookings. Spending money on "legends" is why they're struggling in the first place. Davey, Eddie, and Galloway are big enough names to put on posters and draw in fans. Tryin to draw in "casual" fans who likely don't even know any promotions besides WWE exist is a ship that has long sailed. No company other than WWE has "casual" fans. Just focus on saving enough money to bring in quality talent from the indies and regaining the trust of the IWC.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 15, 2015 3:16:55 GMT -5
A Cast.
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Post by Halloween on Dec 15, 2015 4:16:01 GMT -5
First of all, with Angle leaving this would free up a significant amount of money (You'd have to figure at least a couple hundred thousand right? Surely...) that could be used on Van Dam. I don't know what Van Dam gets per each date but if TNA offered him 200,000 to do every single date TNA has in 2016 I'm sure he'd take it especially considering it's likely to be 5-6 taping block dates, 2 Pay Per Views, 3 India dates (If that ever happens again) and a few House Shows (Less than 5). That's about 8 weeks of actual work and whole hell of a lot of weekly money for nothing. Second, why sign RVD? I'm not a particularly huge RVD fan but the only two remaining "big name" talents in the free agent pool are Goldberg (Unlikely to come) and Rob Van Dam. As it stands if TNA has to promote a House Show or is promoting an Indian tour or is making a big announcement in Pakistan it's always Angle that does it because he's a recognisable name to international audiences. He's famous enough that people want to talk to him and discuss a moment in 2002 or what have you. Van Dam is also that big of a star. He is someone you can put on the local news and people will recognise him and maybe even buy a ticket because Van Dam is in town. He's relatively fresh off of WWE TV (Last appearance was August 2014) and is a huge fan favourite. In terms of ratings I can't see them improving but I think Van Dam can increase live attendance and give you a recognisable face/name to sell shows with and at least you can try to bring the casuals back into watching TNA. As long as TNA sends Van Dam out on media tours to promote House Shows and Pay Per Views he'll be worth the money. From an in ring standpoint he's been away from TNA long enough that there are some compelling matches available for him to partake in. EC3/RVD, Davey/RVD, Eddie/RVD and Galloway/RVD are all fresh matches and I wouldn't mind seeing Roode/RVD and even EY/RVD again. If Hardy sticks around I'd watch Jeff/RVD as well. The problem with that is that honestly, Rob Van Dam means nothing on the free agent pool anymore. His WWE run, and his first TNA run, made RVD into just another midcarder. He'd roughly be at the same level as if TNA tried to see about seeing if Christian was still willing to accept his retirement from WWE or to try and wrestle again for TNA to get him back- and Christian would also be at "no real dot moving." Going for a big-name free agent won't work unless TNA were willing to go all in on the "Does Daniel Bryan choose to leave WWE to keep wrestling" Hail Mary move- and even then, the fact Jeff Hardy went from "WWE's most over babyface in 2009" to "barely able to move the dial in TNA" means even Bryan wouldn't help them. These tie to the other problem- signing unknown or lesser known performers is actually BETTER for TNA, since it's clear that TNA's booking and mediocrity will move everyone to about the same level of draw. This will drop any big name free agent to TNA's level of mediocrity...but it will also RAISE any smaller name free agent's profile to that point as well. Therefore, it's more logical to sign unknowns and watch them rise than sign big names and watch them plummet to nothingness. Rob Van Dam Vs Scott Steiner headlined a show earlier this year in June I believe with the promoter claiming 10,000 people attended the show. Van Dam is still a draw and is still memorable. Not saying he'd draw 10,000 people for TNA but I think Van Dam and the promise of TNA could draw a thousand people to a House Show again. As you said in your bottom paragraph though. TNA would need to treat RVD like a star or he would drop down to the level of everyone else like what happened with him last time. RVD CAN draw and CAN make people interested but it's a race against TNA who want to stop him from doing those things. If TNA allow Angle and Hardy (Jeff) to leave their live attendance will basically be gone. Hardy and Angle are generally the big draws to get the live attendees in and without anyone to replace them TNA will either stick to Universal Studios or will be wrestling in front of 200-300 people for a TV Taping. Reminds me of AWA just before they died.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 15, 2015 4:47:12 GMT -5
Don't expect a Major name signing because they don't have the budget for it. Hints way the big names are leaving and slowly going out. The reality is they don't need a big star because history shown, IT DOESN'T make a difference because TNA doesn't know how to use them. It takes no time for them to sign a big name and make them just another name on the roster. Think about it and how those names are when they went back to the WWE. Sting in the WWE most fans acted like it was the first time anybody saw Sting since WCW and thats from a guy who was in TNA for the last 10 years before that. Why sign RVD when the man was World champion there already and had NO impact. The fact the whole time RVD was there he phoned in everything. Why waste the money? Big names in TNA as proven to add very little only because the one thing that isn't changes and that is the booking of it. Just look at the ratings for Spike TV over the years and who was on that roster or added in. It still was 1.3 max regardless what major player debut or returned, or which one became World champion. First of all, with Angle leaving this would free up a significant amount of money (You'd have to figure at least a couple hundred thousand right? Surely...) that could be used on Van Dam. I don't know what Van Dam gets per each date but if TNA offered him 200,000 to do every single date TNA has in 2016 I'm sure he'd take it especially considering it's likely to be 5-6 taping block dates, 2 Pay Per Views, 3 India dates (If that ever happens again) and a few House Shows (Less than 5). That's about 8 weeks of actual work and whole hell of a lot of weekly money for nothing. Second, why sign RVD? I'm not a particularly huge RVD fan but the only two remaining "big name" talents in the free agent pool are Goldberg (Unlikely to come) and Rob Van Dam. As it stands if TNA has to promote a House Show or is promoting an Indian tour or is making a big announcement in Pakistan it's always Angle that does it because he's a recognisable name to international audiences. He's famous enough that people want to talk to him and discuss a moment in 2002 or what have you. Van Dam is also that big of a star. He is someone you can put on the local news and people will recognise him and maybe even buy a ticket because Van Dam is in town. He's relatively fresh off of WWE TV (Last appearance was August 2014) and is a huge fan favourite. In terms of ratings I can't see them improving but I think Van Dam can increase live attendance and give you a recognisable face/name to sell shows with and at least you can try to bring the casuals back into watching TNA. As long as TNA sends Van Dam out on media tours to promote House Shows and Pay Per Views he'll be worth the money. From an in ring standpoint he's been away from TNA long enough that there are some compelling matches available for him to partake in. EC3/RVD, Davey/RVD, Eddie/RVD and Galloway/RVD are all fresh matches and I wouldn't mind seeing Roode/RVD and even EY/RVD again. If Hardy sticks around I'd watch Jeff/RVD as well. The problem is TNA DOESN'T do half the things you think. TNA had Both Hardys, The Dudley's, Kurt Angle, Lashley, and MVP on the same card and the attendance was below a 1,000 and that's with Full Metal Mayhem as the Main Event between the Hardys, Wolves, and the Dudley's. I'm not taking away RVD as a name or anybody for that matter but name value means nothing under the TNA banner and that's the sad fact. RVD isn't going to have this major impact because he had none the first time TNA used him and he was World Champion, you know what happened right? They where on Monday's because some moron felt TNA was "ready" to face off against Raw. They ended up going back to Thursday's and the rating went back to the companies normal numbers. Point is at even with Sting, Nash, Hogan, Hardy, RVD, Flair, The Dudleys, Jeff Jarrett, Angle, and Anderson (Fresher off his WWE run) where all on the same roster the TV rating never moved or the times it went up a small way only lasted a week. TNA had this ceiling and no matter what they did on Spike TV and that includes killing there PPV market. That's another thing you forgetting is Nobody cares to really orders TNA PPVs which is why they went from 12 a year two well I believe they only had 2 live none one night only taped PPV ALL year and RVD isn't going to change that. Why should I care to ever order a PPV from TNA knowing that they are meaningless. Look at the last one and tell me why I should order the next. BFG there "big show of the year." Had a new World champion crowned and vacant in a 24 hr period since that PPV and this was done for no reason outside making the former champion look like an idiot. Nobody was hurt and what wouldn't EC3 just get a rematch against Matt Hardy? instead nah I'm going to wrestle in a giant tournament for no reason to try and get his belt back. TNA as known to kill PPVs because of booking and failure to even understand how PPVs work.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 15, 2015 5:00:43 GMT -5
Jimmy Havoc? he's not exactly doing much in Progress now the Regression is done. He could probably fit in a taping set around their schedule and be built up like Desmond Wolfe before the Hoganing happened
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 15, 2015 7:57:57 GMT -5
The problem with that is that honestly, Rob Van Dam means nothing on the free agent pool anymore. His WWE run, and his first TNA run, made RVD into just another midcarder. He'd roughly be at the same level as if TNA tried to see about seeing if Christian was still willing to accept his retirement from WWE or to try and wrestle again for TNA to get him back- and Christian would also be at "no real dot moving." Going for a big-name free agent won't work unless TNA were willing to go all in on the "Does Daniel Bryan choose to leave WWE to keep wrestling" Hail Mary move- and even then, the fact Jeff Hardy went from "WWE's most over babyface in 2009" to "barely able to move the dial in TNA" means even Bryan wouldn't help them. These tie to the other problem- signing unknown or lesser known performers is actually BETTER for TNA, since it's clear that TNA's booking and mediocrity will move everyone to about the same level of draw. This will drop any big name free agent to TNA's level of mediocrity...but it will also RAISE any smaller name free agent's profile to that point as well. Therefore, it's more logical to sign unknowns and watch them rise than sign big names and watch them plummet to nothingness. Rob Van Dam Vs Scott Steiner headlined a show earlier this year in June I believe with the promoter claiming 10,000 people attended the show. Van Dam is still a draw and is still memorable. Not saying he'd draw 10,000 people for TNA but I think Van Dam and the promise of TNA could draw a thousand people to a House Show again. As you said in your bottom paragraph though. TNA would need to treat RVD like a star or he would drop down to the level of everyone else like what happened with him last time. RVD CAN draw and CAN make people interested but it's a race against TNA who want to stop him from doing those things. If TNA allow Angle and Hardy (Jeff) to leave their live attendance will basically be gone. Hardy and Angle are generally the big draws to get the live attendees in and without anyone to replace them TNA will either stick to Universal Studios or will be wrestling in front of 200-300 people for a TV Taping. Reminds me of AWA just before they died. First off...as said. TNA drawing a thousand people to a house show again is a pipe dream. Even if RVD had enough draw value, TNA couldn't get 1000 people to Bound for Glory, their Wrestlemania, in the Carolinas, with The Hardys on the card. If they can't do that, Rob Van Dam would not be the answer that gets them to 1000 people anywhere....and if Jeff Hardy (who, again, in 2009 was literally as close as you can get to "Take the biggest name guy in WWE and put them on the TNA roster") can't move the dial for TNA, even if you had pipe dream-level moves that go past even "Daniel Bryan jumps to TNA to wrestle" and goes to "John Cena, Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar, and The Undertaker all jump to TNA to wrestle for new TNA GM The Rock" may not even get them to 1000 people at an event. Even workrate wise, you can't even say RVD would save things- workrate wise, he's okay, but they can get better performers by focusing on younger talent. Even character and gimmick-wise, you also have to deal with real life...the simple fact is, as more and more states legalize marijuana, both medicinal and legitimately, Rob Van Dam gets less and less dangerous by the day and in the process, loses a lot of that aura that made him a star. Just going with big names is not the way TNA will survive or thrive. Their best hope now is to go underground, try and pluck up and comers from the indy scene, and hope to rebuild that way.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 15, 2015 9:36:07 GMT -5
The Rock's cousin twice removed uncle's son's friend. I know you're joking, but... "Vince might have the 'Roman Empire,' but we have LANCE!" A member of the legenedary Anoai family. "I've had many classic matches with Rikishi... I have also wrestled Chavo." - Kurt Angle
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Dec 16, 2015 1:05:06 GMT -5
Boxcar Willie, maybe some of the Bumfights guys.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 16, 2015 2:15:59 GMT -5
Horace the Psychopath, Homeless Jimmy and Tamba the Flying Elephant
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Post by Aya Reiko on Dec 16, 2015 6:09:33 GMT -5
Bankruptcy lawyers, 'cause they'll need 'em when that POP money (doesn't) roll in.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 16, 2015 7:58:04 GMT -5
They might be able to afford a part-time hotdog vendor. But only for PPVs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 10:21:35 GMT -5
Rob Van Dam Vs Scott Steiner headlined a show earlier this year in June I believe with the promoter claiming 10,000 people attended the show. Van Dam is still a draw and is still memorable. Not saying he'd draw 10,000 people for TNA but I think Van Dam and the promise of TNA could draw a thousand people to a House Show again. The Citi Field thing? That was more of a 90s nostalgia convention than a pro wrestling show. The whole hype for the event was built around meet and greets with guys like Goldberg and Bret Hart, they barely advertised any specific matches. RVD/Steiner just happened to be match that went on last, with the big moment being Goldberg running in and spearing and jackhammering people.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Dec 16, 2015 12:34:20 GMT -5
The Rock's cousin twice removed uncle's son's friend. I know you're joking, but... "Vince might have the 'Roman Empire,' but we have LANCE!" Lance did have a squash match on Smackdown
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