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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 1:35:51 GMT -5
So Reigns is the champion now. Apparently, the crowd was chanting "you deserve it" to him during the post-Raw celebration. Reigns looked happy. The company is thrilled. With that said, months ago reports came out that stated the company refuses to acknowledge Punk's reign and they hate that his reign is that long. We know they want to get rid of it. With even that said, look at what happened to AJ's reign. She's not Punk and yet her reign was swiftly ended even though Nikki could have lost the belt far earlier. Punk's? We will see. Anyway, if for some reason Wrestlemania 33 is on April 3rd, 2017, that's 474 days of being champion which is beyond Punk's time as champion. Mind you, Cena's long run which ended due to injury.
Anyway, do you think we'll get a long Reigns run here?
I did some planning and on the chance we might, here's what I see happening.
Royal Rumble 16 - Reigns/Sheamus
Fast Lane 17 - Reigns/Triple H
Wrestlemania 32 - Cena or Lesnar (whoever won the Rumble)
Extreme Rules - Reigns/Owens (Owens attacks Reigns the night after WM)
Payback - Reigns/Owens (DQ)
Money in the Bank - Reigns/Owens (Ladder match)
Battleground - Reigns/Wyatt (or Rusev or whoever as a filler opponent, doesn't matter)
Summerslam - Lesnar or Cena (whoever didn't win the Rumble)
Night of Champions - Reigns/Del Rio (Sadly)
Hell in a Cell - Reigns/ Del Rio(HIAC match)
Survivor Series - Reigns/Rollins
TLC - Reigns/Rollins (TLC match)
Royal Rumble 17 - Reigns/Rusev (or Wyatt again whoever as a filler opponent, doesn't matter)
Fast Lane 17 - Reigns/Rusev (or Wyatt again whoever as a filler opponent, doesn't matter)
Wrestlemania 33 - Shield Triple Threat - Whoever won the Rumble and who he'll lose the title to
Ambrose becomes WWE Champion at WM33.
Honestly, I really get a feeling that they might do this and they might be able to coast through if the booking and crowd doesn't get sick but that's the problem. If Reigns goes against someone like Owens or Lesnar, even Rollins returning it's a problem but if he goes against everyone from the Authority, Wyatts, Del Rios, he'll be good. The crowd is the major thing here. Surely if the crowd was down with Reigns the entire way through they'd give him a long reign, that's always been the problem.
Either way, I'm really thinking we're getting a long title run here. If it doesn't happen I'd be heavily surprised. At the very least I see Reigns holding this belt into Summerslam next year if everything goes according to the company's plan. Beyond that who knows so for me? He's at least holding it to WM32 but beyond Summerslam is a bit iffy, that depends on how the crowd reacts.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Dec 15, 2015 1:36:47 GMT -5
No, he's not beating Punk's record. Who really cares if he actually does anyway?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 1:37:48 GMT -5
No, he's not beating Punk's record. Who really cares if he actually does anyway? The company itself which is the issue. It's not about the fans, it's about the company in this case. If they broke AJ's record then surely they're going to eventually take out Punk's modern one especially since they don't even bring it up anymore, you know they dislike that. Besides that, they always let their guys who they feel are the best have long reigns. If they're on board with Roman and the crowd is behind him then he's not going to have a short reign. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 15, 2015 1:40:55 GMT -5
If they gave a shit about Punk's "record" the'd have broken it. Also I guess Hogan holding the title for years isn't modern enough?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 15, 2015 1:42:51 GMT -5
AJ's record was much more beatable because it's not as long, and in a mid-card division that has much less TV time devoted to it.
Besides, it's not like Punk actually has a real record or anything, because he's not the longest reigning champion of all time.
Either way, I'm not sure I buy into this company keeping such a vision alive long enough to come close to 434. And if Roman keeps ending up in spotfest matches like Extreme Rules, HiaC, and TLC (if crowds start turning again, this is exactly where they will go), he may not make it 434 days.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 15, 2015 1:45:02 GMT -5
He's definitely getting to WrestleMania 32 as champion. WrestleMania 33, though? I'm expecting at least one or two title changes before then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 1:53:10 GMT -5
If they gave a shit about Punk's "record" the'd have broken it. Also I guess Hogan holding the title for years isn't modern enough? ? Punk's record was called the "longest reign in the modern era" repeatedly when he was champion on screen so no, Hogan holding the title isn't "modern" based on what they were stating each time Punk was on screen. As for them "giving a shit about Punk's record, they'd have broken it", that makes no sense. When Punk left Orton was champion and fans were already furious with the Bryan situation, at that point you have to gauge whether you want the fans to be happy or Punk's reign to be broken and they chose Bryan. Mind you, Bryan got hurt shortly after and then the belt went to Cena who had it 1 month before Brock. Brock could have held the belt to surpass Punk's reign. Easily. The problem is that they wanted to crown Reigns at WM and when that failed, Rollins came into play who then went on and got hurt. Sheamus was here but you have ratings and fans, now Reigns has it. Basically with the "if they cared it would have happened mindset" you'd have to toss aside fans being done with the product and being furious in favor of surpassing Punk's reign rather than juggling both with 2 hands and managing it. It wasn't possible at that time. In this hypothetical however, I've stated repeatedly that the fans would have to be down with Reigns all the way through. There's a difference between doing something immediately because you want to and doing something right because you dislike it. Fans are important, same with booking. |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 15, 2015 1:55:03 GMT -5
Punk doesn't hold a record. They don't need to beat anything.
Though the baddest ass BIG DAWG could just hold it for 10 years or so just to be safe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 2:05:37 GMT -5
I think there are a few factors that go against such a long title reign, most notably that the good will Roman has received is going to fade, and quickly. His promo tonight was still awful, and now he'll have to do it 15 minutes at the start of every show, and he has already done the best thing to get a pop in attacking the authority. Like Cena, Romans' good graces will inevitably be cut short, especially if he is going to fight "smart" favourites like Lesnar and Owens, just as Cena started getting booed when he was set against guys like Jericho, Christian, and Angle. Not to mention that Punk's title reign was an obscene amount of good luck, thanks to injuries and WWE already planning out Mania so far in advance. I think Summerslam is the absolute farthest he'll go, if that (I wouldn't be surprised if Cena won it at Mania after all).
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Post by Chuck Conry on Dec 15, 2015 2:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 15, 2015 2:31:23 GMT -5
Hogan'd be mad about it, but he's not sure whether Samoans count as black people or not.  |
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Post by chazraps on Dec 15, 2015 2:46:34 GMT -5
Also I guess Hogan holding the title for years isn't modern enough? A quarter-century isn't very modern, no. Like, the boys were in town a quarter century ago. Now, if you're the town and the boys come back after 25 years, would you say "the boys were here all along?" NO! You would get up on your feet and yell "THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN!" |
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Post by Saul Goodman on Dec 15, 2015 3:02:59 GMT -5
Why? I doubt Punk even cares about how long he held the title. So if Reigns has a long run as champion, it is not to get back at Punk, but because they feel the Reigns is a good draw as champion. Will he hold the title for over 434 days? Maybe, right now there are few people who can hold the title. However, that is over a year from now and anything can happen. Owens can become the top face in the WWE and win the title by then.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 15, 2015 3:17:37 GMT -5
Why? I doubt Punk even cares about how long he held the title. So if Reigns has a long run as champion, it is not to get back at Punk, but because they feel the Reigns is a good draw as champion. Will he hold the title for over 434 days? Maybe, right now there are few people who can hold the title. However, that is over a year from now and anything can happen. Owens can become the top face in the WWE and win the title by then. They drug out Nikki Bella dropping the title to Charlotte by ONE DAY just to be petty towards AJ Lee. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking WWE can't be petty about stuff like this. |
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 15, 2015 6:32:37 GMT -5
Also I guess Hogan holding the title for years isn't modern enough? A quarter-century isn't very modern, no. Like, the boys were in town a quarter century ago. Now, if you're the town and the boys come back after 25 years, would you say "the boys were here all along?" NO! You would get up on your feet and yell "THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN!" Glorious. |
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Dec 15, 2015 7:22:42 GMT -5
maybe just maybe Roman can keep the belt till Summer Slam, and that's of the crowd doesn't turn on him.
But let's face it, Cena is getting the championship back soon after his return. So no, Punk's foot note in the history of a fake title run is safe.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 15, 2015 8:17:12 GMT -5
Who cares. Punks reign went on 3 months too long so he can drop the belt to Rock. If WWE doesn't bring it up than people will eventually forget. All Roman needs is a nice 3-6 month reign to establish himself.
It doesn't matter how long he holds the title but what he does with it as long as he has it
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Post by paywindah on Dec 15, 2015 8:21:39 GMT -5
The average crowd will be tired of him in a few months and he'll be booed again. His character is one dimensional so he'll become stale and boring quickly.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Dec 15, 2015 8:47:13 GMT -5
Punk's "record" is something I'd say at least 85% of the audience either doesn't care about or has flat-out forgotten.
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Post by ZERO on Dec 15, 2015 8:50:46 GMT -5
Who cares. Punks reign went on 3 months too long so he can drop the belt to Rock. If WWE doesn't bring it up than people will eventually forget. All Roman needs is a nice 3-6 month reign to establish himself. It doesn't matter how long he holds the title but what he does with it as long as he has it Agreed. I think WWE might be petty enough to do it though. |
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