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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 15, 2015 22:34:38 GMT -5
Big Daddy V vs. The Boogeyman
The only good moment that Boogey got was terrorizing Matt Striker before the shirtless V debuted and threw him through a daggone chalkboard. Every interaction was V crushing Boogey. They built up this constant mauling for an ECW main event where V won cleanly.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Dec 15, 2015 22:39:11 GMT -5
Tommy Dreamer and Raven was pretty lopsided
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Dec 15, 2015 23:44:10 GMT -5
Chavo vs Hornswoggle?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 15, 2015 23:48:10 GMT -5
The Rabid Wolvering and Orlando Jordan
Eddie and Rey... to a degree
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 16, 2015 0:31:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not sure a guy who had been calling for his streak to end years before it did, and actually put over Khali and Kozlov clean as a sheet, is all that petty or vindictive about his spot. I think Dallas could rub some folks the wrong way. Maybe coming on too strong...or being too positive, or eager...... I know, it's sounds crazy, but it wouldnt surprise me if that was part of the problem. Well, this is Vince we're talking about. He's shown he's not playing with a full deck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 1:35:51 GMT -5
Did Hulk Hogan ever loose to Vader? Because he no sold him like crazy
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Post by Cela on Dec 16, 2015 3:35:16 GMT -5
Benoit vs. Orlando Jordan. Jordan surviving longer than 30 seconds, I think, was his biggest triumph.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 16, 2015 7:23:06 GMT -5
As stated before, Hardy has beaten Taker. Plus you're going on the assumption that the Undertaker has 100% final say in what he will or won't do job wise. I retract the Hardy point, however, Taker has a better win/loss ratio than many people who carried the company on their shoulders and even a guy who spent 1994-2000 booking himself, which simply doesn't happen in a company like the WWF/E unless you're either the biggest draw they have, which Taker never was, or are as political as hell. Taker had enough sway over his own booking he convinced the WWE to allow him to drop the gimmick that was making them money so he could play his midlife crisis out on TV and bring his new wife along for the ride. Another reason I buy the treatment of DDP being largely 'Taker is the way he's all about respect, people respecting him, not the other way around. He used 'wrestlers court' to force his will on rookies, to get people on the lower end of the pay scale to buy expensive drinks for him and his cronies because they didn't shake the right hand, or someone didn't like the cut of their jib or the way they were getting a push that the mighty Taker didn't think they deserved. It's kind of telling that the institution seems to have died the moment the Undertaker left the active roster, isn't it?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 16, 2015 7:28:52 GMT -5
Punk's white hot Straight Edge Society stable lost back to back feuds in humiliatingly one sided fashion. First to Rey Misterio, then Big Show.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 16, 2015 7:35:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not sure a guy who had been calling for his streak to end years before it did, and actually put over Khali and Kozlov clean as a sheet, is all that petty or vindictive about his spot. I think Dallas could rub some folks the wrong way. Maybe coming on too strong...or being too positive, or eager...... I know, it's sounds crazy, but it wouldnt surprise me if that was part of the problem. Even some of his best friends have said this, DDP is one of the kindest people you will ever meet but if you don't know him or when you first meet him he comes off like an arrogant jackass who only cares about himself. And multiple wrestler's have said that they don't like working with DDP because of how detailed he was with going over the match. He wanted to know every little detail and didn't like just going out there and just wrestling
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 16, 2015 8:34:49 GMT -5
As stated before, Hardy has beaten Taker. Plus you're going on the assumption that the Undertaker has 100% final say in what he will or won't do job wise. I retract the Hardy point, however, Taker has a better win/loss ratio than many people who carried the company on their shoulders and even a guy who spent 1994-2000 booking himself, which simply doesn't happen in a company like the WWF/E unless you're either the biggest draw they have, which Taker never was, or are as political as hell. Another reason I buy the treatment of DDP being largely 'Taker is the way he's all about respect, people respecting him, not the other way around. He used 'wrestlers court' to force his will on rookies, to get people on the lower end of the pay scale to buy expensive drinks for him and his cronies because they didn't shake the right hand, or someone didn't like the cut of their jib or the way they were getting a push that the mighty Taker didn't think they deserved. It's kind of telling that the institution seems to have died the moment the Undertaker left the active roster, isn't it? I'm actually embarrassed for the Undertaker that he took wrestlers court so seriously. What a lame ass concept.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 16, 2015 9:59:25 GMT -5
I thought I remember hearing Vince hated DDP because he didn't know how to sell a back drop.
They so missed the boat on DDP he really could have given them a couple of good years
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Dec 16, 2015 10:08:54 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith never got a win over HBK to my knowledge. Not after HBK became a singles star, I think. Poor Davey jobbed: IC title in 1992 Tag title (subbing for Owen) in 1995 Tag title in 1997 Euro title in 1997 Did Hulk Hogan ever loose to Vader? Because he no sold him like crazy Not that I can recall, Count-out losses, maybe. He never pinned Vader, however. At least not on TV, which is what is important.
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Post by paperbackhero on Dec 16, 2015 10:17:04 GMT -5
Heels are generally supposed to lose feuds though.
Guys like Bret and Taker would gladly lose a match to a lesser, in order to win the feud in the end. Only self sacrificing for a purpose. Lose one match on tv...then beat them cleanly around the horn on house shows and in the blow off. I got no problem with it...makes the feud seem competitive...like honestly...you think a company wants to put Kozlov or Pierre on top?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 16, 2015 10:30:03 GMT -5
Heels are generally supposed to lose feuds though. Guys like Bret and Taker would gladly lose a match to a lesser, in order to win the feud in the end. Only self sacrificing for a purpose. Lose one match on tv...then beat them cleanly around the horn on house shows and in the blow off. I got no problem with it...makes the feud seem competitive...like honestly...you think a company wants to put Kozlov or Pierre on top? Generally yeah, this thread is for examples that go beyond that. My one was HBK v Bulldog, didn't matter who was face or heel, HBK won every time. DDP v Taker, yeah you'd expect Taker to win in the end, but he no sold everything, completely dominated DDP in every match, singles, tag, everything to the point his wife pinned him, that's going a little beyond the face should win.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 16, 2015 10:59:12 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio vs My eyelids
He puts them down every damn time.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 16, 2015 11:46:21 GMT -5
Benoit vs. Orlando Jordan. Jordan surviving longer than 30 seconds, I think, was his biggest triumph. That feud did have a bunch of Benoit's best promos... like proving he could go to the bathroom and wash his hands in the same amount of time as it took to beat OJ.
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Post by evenbroddt on Dec 16, 2015 14:36:05 GMT -5
Vader vs. Inoki. First match was a squash, second was a tad more competitive, third was finally a Inoki win but only after getting destroyed.
Raven vs. Dreamer. Pretty sure Raven has won all but their Wrestlepalooza match. He even won the "final encounter"
Regal vs. Benoit. All amazing matches, pretty sure all won by Benoit.
Orton vs. Triple H. I don't think Randy has won any of their matches rather than No Mercy 07.
And finally the best feud, Hart vs. Austin. Austin never got the upper hand.
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Post by chrom on Dec 16, 2015 14:52:10 GMT -5
Vader vs. Inoki. First match was a squash, second was a tad more competitive, third was finally a Inoki win but only after getting destroyed. Raven vs. Dreamer. Pretty sure Raven has won all but their Wrestlepalooza match. He even won the "final encounter" Regal vs. Benoit. All amazing matches, pretty sure all won by Benoit. Orton vs. Triple H. I don't think Randy has won any of their matches rather than No Mercy 07. And finally the best feud, Hart vs. Austin. Austin never got the upper hand. There was a nearly a damn riot when Vader defeated Inoki and I think there was reports of a hit being put on him.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 15:11:36 GMT -5
Benoit vs. Orlando Jordan. Jordan surviving longer than 30 seconds, I think, was his biggest triumph. He still lasted longer than...no, I can't finish this thought....
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