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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 16, 2015 17:56:43 GMT -5
Yoda goes into exile, to Dagobah specifically. Why? Never explained. Qui-Gon has somehow found the way to cheat death. How? Never explained. Palpatine tells Anakin he really doesn't know how to cheat death. Anakin doesn't care. Goes on a massacre. Why? Never explained. The Jedi are declared enemies of the state. The Senate go along with it for no reason, despite them being protectors of truth and justice for a thousand generations. Anakin now regards the Jedi as evil. Why? Never explained. The Jedi children have to be killed. Anakin doesn't bother asking why. Kills them anyway. The Jedi are shocked when the clones they inexplicably decided to use as an army despite being made in secret by a race of aliens who associate with a bounty hunter who tried to kill Padme and the Jedi in a gladitorial battle, turn out to be untrustworthy. Why? Never explained. Luke has no memory of his mother. Leia does, despite the fact they both spent the same amount of time (about 2.1 seconds) in her presence. Why? Never explained. You know what this means... TIME FOR A SUPER EXTRA SPECIAL WITH A CHERRY ON TOP EDITION to tie all these in!!!!!! If by some miracle they can fix all of those issues, I'm all for it. What I would be even more in favour of is just scrapping all three prequels.
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Post by Starshine on Dec 16, 2015 17:59:44 GMT -5
"I have seen a security hologram of him killing younglings."
Don't really feel the need to add any more to that.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 16, 2015 18:03:02 GMT -5
I will say the one shot of now Vader leadin Clones in full on Nazi march looked badass. It belonged in a better movie.
And Sith better than any of the originals? No way. Jedi may have been weakest of the 3; but is still way more fun. And as a pre-emptive "Jedi had Ewoks" response--the Ewoks are great.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 16, 2015 18:04:46 GMT -5
I will say the one shot of now Vader leadin Clones in full on Nazi march looked badass. It belonged in a better movie. It still bugs me that they didn't go with the Imperial March in that scene. It was the perfect place to fully introduce that theme in the prequels.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 16, 2015 18:06:07 GMT -5
I will say the one shot of now Vader leadin Clones in full on Nazi march looked badass. It belonged in a better movie. And Sith better than any of the originals? No way. Jedi may have been weakest of the 3; but is still way more fun. And as a pre-emptive "Jedi had Ewoks" response--the Ewoks are great. People always bitch about how the Ewoks could have helped defeat the Empire. Is it really that unbeliavable to think the Ewoks might have some advantage on their home planet? I mean, it's not like there's every been a case in either fiction or real life where a group of ragtag fighters could use their home turf to beat a bigger army, is there?
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 16, 2015 18:07:43 GMT -5
I will say the one shot of now Vader leadin Clones in full on Nazi march looked badass. It belonged in a better movie. It still bugs me that they didn't go with the Imperial March in that scene. It was the perfect place to fully introduce that theme in the prequels. I'll give Attack of the Clones this much: I did like the ending where the clones were getting on to their star destroyer looking ships with Palpatine looking over while a version of the Imperial March played.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 16, 2015 18:19:17 GMT -5
I will say the one shot of now Vader leadin Clones in full on Nazi march looked badass. It belonged in a better movie. And Sith better than any of the originals? No way. Jedi may have been weakest of the 3; but is still way more fun. And as a pre-emptive "Jedi had Ewoks" response--the Ewoks are great. People always bitch about how the Ewoks could have helped defeat the Empire. Is it really that unbeliavable to think the Ewoks might have some advantage on their home planet? I mean, it's not like there's every been a case in either fiction or real life where a group of ragtag fighters could use their home turf to beat a bigger army, is there? And it's not as if the Ewoks just decimated the Empire's troops. The tide of the battle didn't truly turn until Chewie got his hands on an AT-ST. The only real issues I have with the Ewoks is being expected to believe they had those massive log traps conveniently set up to take down the AT-STs.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 16, 2015 18:24:28 GMT -5
Maybe Endor had some nocturnal Walker sized predator the traps were generally for.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 19:22:22 GMT -5
You know what this means... TIME FOR A SUPER EXTRA SPECIAL WITH A CHERRY ON TOP EDITION to tie all these in!!!!!! If by some miracle they can fix all of those issues, I'm all for it. What I would be even more in favour of is just scrapping all three prequels. If a remake was justified, this would be it. One movie, follow the ideas of the fan edits of the prequels. It's not that hard.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 19:24:21 GMT -5
"I have seen a security hologram of him killing younglings." Don't really feel the need to add any more to that. between his and Lucas' special language, people wonder why I compared him to Vince McMahon since 1999. /Dammit it's a LIGHTSABERSHIP, it's NOT A SWORD!!!! //Star Wars: the #1 name in...Galactic Entertainment!
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 19:25:11 GMT -5
I will say the one shot of now Vader leadin Clones in full on Nazi march looked badass. It belonged in a better movie. And Sith better than any of the originals? No way. Jedi may have been weakest of the 3; but is still way more fun. And as a pre-emptive "Jedi had Ewoks" response--the Ewoks are great. Ewoks = Scrappy-Doo. We loved them as kids and thought nothing of it...then the Internet told us they weren't cool. /In a world where Gungans were a thing? Yeah gimme Wicket and co. //And comic relief Wookiees wouldn't help...see you-know-what. ///Yes the original idea in ROTJ was to have a Wookiee army. ////Wookiee army in ROTS = kind of a callback to that? /////Is Lucas THAT clever?
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 16, 2015 19:34:17 GMT -5
"Once more.....the SITH will rule the galaxy!!!!"
Oh, you mean they ruled the galaxy before? When? In fact, what is a Sith? This is the sixth film and no one has taken even a few minutes to explain, or why they are seeking revenge. That might have helped. Hermione Granger was able to explain the history of the Deathly Hallows in under five minutes. The origin of the Sith, their history with the Jedi, their philosophy and why it might appeal to Anakin (which is basically the entire purpose of the prequels) needed to be outlined.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 19:42:58 GMT -5
Um what did I like about ROTS? Well those Dark Side M&Ms came out when it did...
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Dec 16, 2015 19:45:31 GMT -5
"Anakin...come to the Dark Side"
"NEVER!"
"Aw, come on!"
"Well, okay I guess."
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Post by Starshine on Dec 16, 2015 19:47:17 GMT -5
"Anakin...come to the Dark Side" "NEVER!" "Aw, come on!" "Well, okay I guess." Come on, how could you turn down this face?
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Post by Larryhausen on Dec 16, 2015 19:47:39 GMT -5
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE, YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!!! Actually, that last part doesn't happen, but me and my friend in college would always add it in there for laughs. My old roommate and I used to do our own dialogue for the Seperatists where "My new apprentice will take care of you" meant they all thought he was gonna give them cake. Makes it wayyy better.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 16, 2015 19:51:01 GMT -5
If by some miracle they can fix all of those issues, I'm all for it. What I would be even more in favour of is just scrapping all three prequels. If a remake was justified, this would be it. One movie, follow the ideas of the fan edits of the prequels. It's not that hard. I've said all along Lucas started Anakin's fall to the Dark Side far too late into the prequels. He and Obi Wan should've met (with Anakin already being a teenager) and developed a close friendship in Episode I, Anakin should've turned by the end of Episode II, and Episode III should've been Vader hunting the Jedi to extinction. I find it funny, a lot of people's criticisms of the J.J. Star Trek movies is that they're too much action and not enough science, morality plays, and political intrigue. In the Star Wars prequels there's way too much science, morality plays, and political intrigue, and not enough action. Good God I hate that design for Palpatine. Why did they have to grotesque him up when by the time Empire Strikes Back rolls around he looks exactly like he did before the fight with Windu?
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2015 19:51:02 GMT -5
"Anakin...come to the Dark Side" "NEVER!" "Aw, come on!" "Well, okay I guess." Come on, how could you turn down this face? ABC gum? No thanks.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 16, 2015 20:06:56 GMT -5
Palpatine was the best thing about Episode I as a sinister, but publically charming, bastard. By Episode III he was just a parody of himself.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 16, 2015 20:23:24 GMT -5
"Anakin...come to the Dark Side" "NEVER!" "Aw, come on!" "Well, okay I guess." Come on, how could you turn down this face? I wasn't crazy about that either. Just thought he looked that way in Jedi cuz he was really friggin old. But nope, hadda have monster face.
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