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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 17, 2015 22:57:29 GMT -5
 The Original Prince Pretty and master of the selfie was Sonny Ono |
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Post by Starshine on Dec 17, 2015 23:06:50 GMT -5
Chris Jericho originally invented the selfie. Sonny Onoo was copying him.
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Post by Perd on Dec 17, 2015 23:10:54 GMT -5
Ono he didn't!
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Dec 17, 2015 23:11:40 GMT -5
 Yep. |
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Post by FALLOUT Goldashausen #BLM on Dec 17, 2015 23:13:41 GMT -5
And with mid-90's camera technology!
That jabroni whippersnapper Breeze knows exactly where he's pointing his stick at all times.
But Sonny? No, that precise framing angle came after years and years of trusting his damn instincts.
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Post by bob on Dec 17, 2015 23:14:42 GMT -5
he stole the gimmick from The Model Rick Martel
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 18, 2015 0:05:40 GMT -5
he stole the gimmick from The Model Rick Martel I would mark out if Martel managed Tyler for one match with his theme playing |
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Dec 18, 2015 0:12:25 GMT -5
 Oh wait you said Ono not... you know what, forget it. |
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Post by Phil Parent on Dec 18, 2015 2:07:35 GMT -5
The gimmick 100% takes its root at the crossroads between The Model and HBK's original heel character.
But there's no stealing in wrestling. The same tropes are being used all the time. That's just how it is.
You can talk about Martel & HBK, but you could have also mentionned A LOT of other guys that influenced both of them.
"Pretty" is real common a gimmick in wrestling history. Anybody that ripped off Gorgeous George / Buddy Rogers was "Pretty", that covers a lot of ground.
On my local scene, Isaac Shemin had been doing a "Pretty" character with a theme song that started "I'm Pretty, I'm Pretty, uh uh, I'm Pretty; I'm Pretty, I'm Pretty, Oh Yeah, I'm Pretty" (It's on Youtube, "Chui Bo" by PZK, french song.) with a girl accompanying him to the ring carrying a mirror so he could gaze at himself 5 full years before Tyler Breeze was a thing. And it's no ripoff, it's just an easy way to show somebody with a narcissistic personality disorder. It's easy to hate, it's easy to sell...
Wrestling ain't Shakespeare. Look around you in the crowd the next time you go to your local indy and you'll see why it can't be. The characters have to be simple so that a lot of the fans, because they are young or have issues, can understand them, and that's not being disrespectful, it's just a fact of the business.
BTW: "Ultimate Dragon"? For shame, WCW. Only one of the top workers of his generation, you don't have to get his name right....
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 18, 2015 2:47:27 GMT -5
What's interesting about Breeze is that there's no real sense of flamboyancy. There's no preening or posing that seems effeminate, especially with his obvious girlfriend Summer in tow. It's maybe the world we live in now but a narcissist constantly looking at himself through his phone doesn't seem that unheard of now.
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Post by gr1990 on Dec 18, 2015 5:25:00 GMT -5
What's interesting about Breeze is that there's no real sense of flamboyancy. There's no preening or posing that seems effeminate, especially with his obvious girlfriend Summer in tow. It's maybe the world we live in now but a narcissist constantly looking at himself through his phone doesn't seem that unheard of now. It discomforts me a little to know that they probably only gave Tyler a girlfriend on the main roster to 'prove' he wasn't gay and so the audience wouldn't be tempted to respond to him in a homophobic manner. I don't really mind since Summer is great, her and Tyler have chemistry and she deserved something to move on to after the thing with Rusev blew up in her face through no fault of her own, but it is a little weird. Plus it's difficult to imagine NXT Tyler Breeze being attracted to or caring about anyone but himself. |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 18, 2015 12:36:09 GMT -5
This thread took a bit of a turn since I was away.
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Post by Racksman on Dec 18, 2015 12:37:54 GMT -5
There's a lot of mid 90's Paul Orndorff in Breeze's character too.
Y'know, except Breeze doesn't suck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 15:22:13 GMT -5
What's interesting about Breeze is that there's no real sense of flamboyancy. There's no preening or posing that seems effeminate, especially with his obvious girlfriend Summer in tow. It's maybe the world we live in now but a narcissist constantly looking at himself through his phone doesn't seem that unheard of now. Lex Luger, 20 years too soon. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 18, 2015 15:23:55 GMT -5
He stole it from Zoolander  |
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Post by r. on Dec 18, 2015 15:38:14 GMT -5
There's a lot of mid 90's Paul Orndorff in Breeze's character too. Y'know, except Breeze doesn't suck. But he does job......a lot |
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Post by Vern on Dec 18, 2015 15:44:04 GMT -5
I don't know who this "Ultimate Dragon" is but I'm pretty sure that he'd fail miserably in WWE.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 18, 2015 15:46:48 GMT -5
I don't know who this "Ultimate Dragon" is but I'm pretty sure that he'd fail miserably in WWE. He's the son of the penultimate dragon. |
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Post by Vern on Dec 18, 2015 16:20:10 GMT -5
I don't know who this "Ultimate Dragon" is but I'm pretty sure that he'd fail miserably in WWE. He's the son of the penultimate dragon. They just take a few letters off each generation. >Penultimate >Ultimate {Spoiler}  Ironically, his son will be called "Ma Dragon". |
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Dec 18, 2015 16:23:54 GMT -5
I do love that Sonny Onoo was billed from His many homes around the world
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