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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 27, 2015 15:04:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure that applies to a fake sport. It's Steven Segal 'my character never dies in any movie' level lunacy. It's not a fake sport, it's a profession in a multi-million dollar industry. We need more of that Steven Segal mentality in wrestling. Bret, Shawn, Austin, Taker, Rock, these guys didn't just follow orders, they built up incredible characters and protected their characters and made millions of dollars for themselves. Today's wrestlers may choose to just follow orders and read their scripts, and that's fine, but they'll never achieve the money and popularity of the previous generation by doing that. More people need to stand up and speak out, take chances, stop eating slaps from Stephanie McMahon, stop living in fear of being fired. Vince can't fire everyone. Even if he does, follow Punk's lead and go do something else, the world is a big place and life's too short for complacency.See, here's the issue with that logic. Punk was a big star with lots of friends in both the sports and entertainment industry. Even if Punk decided to keep wrestling, he'd be swimming in job offers from all over the place. Some of these guys DON'T have other options than WWE. They don't have the connections to sign with UFC or really anything outside of the WWE bubble. Yes, you can make a living off the indie scene but there's simply not enough spots for everybody, especially where you are gonna make anything resembling what you are making in WWE even if you are Heath Slater. For a lot of these guys, WWE is the best option available. Even if you feel you are being "buried", it's better than nothing. This isn't wrestling kayfabe where you have to be a rebellious bastard in order to be successful. This is the real world and you're dealing with real people. You also have real bills to pay and real mouths to feed. I think guys could benefit from speaking up more but to take them to task for it is pretty ridiculous. You do what you gotta do to pay the bills and make sure your family has a comfortable lifestyle. That's more important than winning fake belts or anything else.
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Professor Chaos
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 27, 2015 17:30:47 GMT -5
They should make a Roman Good Guy Doll. Hi I'm Roman, I'm your friend to the end.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 27, 2015 21:41:19 GMT -5
That's why they all draw flies. Because they play video games so much that they forget to shower?
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Post by benstudd on Dec 27, 2015 21:48:44 GMT -5
I just don't buy into this fable that guys CAN stand up for themselves (unless, again, they rake in buckets of cash, but that would be in spite of it, not because of). You think Heath Slater could just approach Vince, call his late mother a whore, and make a list of demands and we'll be seeing him in the main event of next PPV? The brass ring, as Punk said, is non-existent. And he should know, he was one of the aggressive types Vince apparently likes. Punk realized that no matter you rage against the machine, you are still are part of the machine. Thinking you are a rebel but discovering you are just playing into the hands of the puppet masters. Once he came to that realization, he called it quits. Butting heads with the McMahons isn't going to earn respect. Saying no to terrible ideas won't make you immune to the next bad idea cooked up by creative. Vince loves it when he causes drama among the workers. He hates the new generation because they do their one-upmanship in the ring instead of backstage. You shouldn't be submissive all of the time but being an alpha isn't going to make you the Man in WWE. Well being an Alpha sure helped Hulk Hogan(in the 80s) and HBK(in the AE). Vince didn't just call Hogan "monster" for nothing. Hogan took what he wanted.
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