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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 29, 2015 3:45:16 GMT -5
The playoff picture shall be finalized.
For the only time this season, no Thursday/Monday games. Everyone plays Sunday.
Division titles. Jets/Steelers. Playoff seeds and positions.
LET'S DO THIS!
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 29, 2015 9:49:03 GMT -5
Are one of the games going to be moved to the nighttime/NBC? Because right now all the games are either scheduled for 1:00 or 4:25.
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Post by Ganon83 on Dec 29, 2015 10:18:01 GMT -5
Are one of the games going to be moved to the nighttime/NBC? Because right now all the games are either scheduled for 1:00 or 4:25. Vikings/Packers are SNF
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 10:35:21 GMT -5
How everyone can get what in Week 17:
AFC PATRIOTS can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with: 1) NE win or tie 2) DEN loss or tie
BENGALS can clinch a first-round bye with: 1) CIN win + DEN loss or tie 2) CIN tie + DEN loss 3) DEN loss + KC win
BRONCOS can clinch the AFC West division title with: 1) DEN win or tie 2) KC loss or tie They can also clinch a first-round bye with: 1) DEN win 2) DEN tie + CIN loss or tie 3) KC loss or tie + CIN loss And they can also clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with a win + NE loss
CHIEFS can clinch the AFC West division title with a win + DEN loss
JETS can clinch a playoff berth with: 1) NYJ win or tie 2) PIT loss or tie
STEELERS can clinch a playoff berth with a win + NYJ loss
TEXANS can clinch the AFC South division title with: 1) HOU win or tie 2) IND loss or tie 3) HOU clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over IND OR clinches strength of schedule tiebreaker over IND (Note: HOU clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over IND if one of the following teams wins or ties: NO, CIN, NYJ, SD, NE. HOU clinches strength of schedule tiebreaker over IND if KC wins or ties and BAL wins or ties as long as both teams don't tie.)
COLTS can clinch the AFC South division title with a win + HOU loss + IND ties HOU in strength of victory tiebreaker and clinches strength of schedule tiebreaker over HOU (Note: IND ties HOU in strength of victory tiebreaker and clinches strength of schedule tiebreaker over HOU if BOTH of the following occurs: • a) all of the following teams win: BAL, ATL, BUF, DEN, MIA • b) OAK win or tie + PIT win or tie as long as both teams don't tie.)
If Houston and Indianapolis end up tied in strength of victory and tied in strength of schedule, the teams would then go to the next tiebreaker, which is best combined ranking among AFC teams in points scored and points allowed in all games. Houston currently has a combined AFC ranking of 17 and Indianapolis is at 25.
NFC PANTHERS can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with: 1) Win or tie 2) ARI loss or tie
CARDINALS can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with a win + CAR loss
PACKERS can clinch the NFC North division title with a win or tie
VIKINGS can clinch the NFC North division title with a win
NFC No. 3 through 6 seeding scenarios:
If GB wins and SEA wins: • GB No. 3, WAS No. 4, SEA No. 5, MIN No. 6
If GB wins and SEA loss/tie OR If GB ties: • GB No. 3, WAS No. 4, MIN No. 5, SEA No. 6
If MIN wins: • MIN No. 3, WAS No. 4, GB No. 5, SEA No. 6
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 29, 2015 11:55:18 GMT -5
COLTS can clinch the AFC South division title with a win + HOU loss + IND ties HOU in strength of victory tiebreaker and clinches strength of schedule tiebreaker over HOU (Note: IND ties HOU in strength of victory tiebreaker and clinches strength of schedule tiebreaker over HOU if BOTH of the following occurs: • a) all of the following teams win: BAL, ATL, BUF, DEN, MIA • b) OAK win or tie + PIT win or tie as long as both teams don't tie.) If Houston and Indianapolis end up tied in strength of victory and tied in strength of schedule, the teams would then go to the next tiebreaker, which is best combined ranking among AFC teams in points scored and points allowed in all games. Houston currently has a combined AFC ranking of 17 and Indianapolis is at 25. I have an ice cream headache after reading that
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Post by domrep on Dec 29, 2015 12:04:13 GMT -5
Colts are better off losing. The very definition of a treadmill team, it will be a cake walk for whoever faces them. Is it worth the extra home game just to get trounced?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 29, 2015 14:44:07 GMT -5
I wish I had some extra cash to wager against Cincy on Sunday.
Honestly, I have to ask (again) How does Marvin Lewis still have a job?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 29, 2015 14:45:02 GMT -5
Colts are better off losing. The very definition of a treadmill team, it will be a cake walk for whoever faces them. Is it worth the extra home game just to get trounced? Agreed. Indy would have been dead and buried weeks ago if that division wasn't total ass.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 29, 2015 14:55:19 GMT -5
I wish I had some extra cash to wager against Cincy on Sunday. Honestly, I have to ask (again) How does Marvin Lewis still have a job? Because who exactly is supposed to replace Marvin? There aren't any Bruce Arians out there for Cincy to snap up. If not him, who?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 29, 2015 15:00:17 GMT -5
I wish I had some extra cash to wager against Cincy on Sunday. Honestly, I have to ask (again) How does Marvin Lewis still have a job? Because who exactly is supposed to replace Marvin? There aren't any Bruce Arians out there for Cincy to snap up. If not him, who? Anyone. It's time to change things up in Cincy. He's been their coach for about 12-13 years and they haven't won a single playoff game. And yeah, it's all well and good he manages to get them to the playoffs, but that can't be enough anymore if your ownership actually cares. That team can not win a meaningful game, expecially under the spotlight of prime time to save their lives. They're soft as baby poop and that's in large part due to bad coaching
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Post by bluemeii on Dec 29, 2015 15:02:09 GMT -5
I wish I had some extra cash to wager against Cincy on Sunday. Honestly, I have to ask (again) How does Marvin Lewis still have a job? Because who exactly is supposed to replace Marvin? There aren't any Bruce Arians out there for Cincy to snap up. If not him, who? The guy calling the offensive plays for the Bengals now would work. Hell I'm still trying to figure out why the Raiders cut him after one 8-8 season in 2011. He was the one coach in the past decade plus who made them look like a real NFL team for an entire season (at least coming into this year anyway). Hell this year he has managed to turn Andy Dalton into a legit top QB in this league, not just a guy who pads numbers against bad teams.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 29, 2015 15:06:32 GMT -5
I might as well say it- every AFC team other than New England is as soft as baby (bleep). (And yes, that includes the 10-5 Jets who are 2-1 in primetime games this yr)
All the good coaches other than the Almighty Belichick are in the NFC.
Unless the Steelers sneak in or Cincy finally gets over the hump, it would be an absolute chokejob if the Pats can't navigate THIS AFC playoff "minefield."
Otherwise, it's Tom Brady and 5 Guys Burgers. Unless Fitzpatrick/McCarron/Alex Smith/Osweiler/Texans QB makes a deal with the Devil or the aforementioned PIT/CIN man up, I cannot imagine a scenario where the Pats are watching SB 50 with the rest of America.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 29, 2015 15:13:15 GMT -5
Can I nominate theslickness for future Bengals head coach?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 29, 2015 15:22:06 GMT -5
Can I nominate theslickness for future Bengals head coach? I can't possibly do a worse job when it matters than Lewis has over the last decade.
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Post by domrep on Dec 29, 2015 15:54:38 GMT -5
I saw a tweet by Michael Silver, he dropped about 9 teams who might make coaching moves: Miami, San Fran, NY Giants, Indy, Titans, Cleveland, San Diego, New Orleans and Detroit. First off, there probably aren't enough coordinators (who have HC potential) to fill those jobs IMO. Second, I reckon you'll see guys like Payton get canned and pick up one of those spots.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 29, 2015 16:32:49 GMT -5
Colts are better off losing. The very definition of a treadmill team, it will be a cake walk for whoever faces them. Is it worth the extra home game just to get trounced? It won't matter. They can win Sunday. Houston can lose. They can have just about everything go their way except one thing - Miami winning. Miami is playing the Patriots in a game that actually matters (well, to the Patriots at least). I watched that team last week. Half of them quit already. Oh, Landry came to ball, as did a few others, but that was it. There is no way they don't get blown out in a big way.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 29, 2015 16:50:25 GMT -5
I don't see how last night's loss is on Marvin Lewis. It's not like he personally injured Andy Dalton, who was having a great season before he got hurt and they had to put the hopes of the franchise on AJ McCarron.
Maybe if it was a another Dalton chokejob in the postseason you could pin some of the blame on Lewis, but backup QB's are backups for a reason. Tom Brady is the glaring exception to the rule and AJ McCarron is no Tom Brady. And Denver is probably the most difficult place in the world to play as a road team in terms of environmental conditions, especially late in games and especially if they go to OT.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 29, 2015 17:06:27 GMT -5
I don't see how last night's loss is on Marvin Lewis. It's not like he personally injured Andy Dalton, who was having a great season before he got hurt and they had to put the hopes of the franchise on AJ McCarron. Maybe if it was a another Dalton chokejob in the postseason you could pin some of the blame on Lewis, but backup QB's are backups for a reason. Tom Brady is the glaring exception to the rule and AJ McCarron is no Tom Brady. And Denver is probably the most difficult place in the world to play as a road team in terms of environmental conditions, especially late in games and especially if they go to OT. Maybe it's a bit unfair to blame last night in Lewis. But the other 15 times his teams cropped their pants in big moments indicative of a problem with being ready
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 17:09:36 GMT -5
Damn Bungles. I was actually rooting for them to win just so we could put an end to the whole "Will the Colts make the playoffs?" nonsense.
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Post by BRV on Dec 29, 2015 17:15:06 GMT -5
I don't see how last night's loss is on Marvin Lewis. It's not like he personally injured Andy Dalton, who was having a great season before he got hurt and they had to put the hopes of the franchise on AJ McCarron. Maybe if it was a another Dalton chokejob in the postseason you could pin some of the blame on Lewis, but backup QB's are backups for a reason. Tom Brady is the glaring exception to the rule and AJ McCarron is no Tom Brady. And Denver is probably the most difficult place in the world to play as a road team in terms of environmental conditions, especially late in games and especially if they go to OT. Monday night's loss isn't on Marvin Lewis, but I just think people are getting way ahead of themselves when they say he's a great coach who has been dealt a bad hand over the years. An 0-6 record in the postseason, with that talent, is inexcusable. With a better head coach, it could be argued that the Bengals over the past decade should at the very least have an AFC Championship on their resume. The only outright "bad luck" loss they had was the 2006 Wild Card game against Pittsburgh, when Kimo von Oelhoffen tore Carson Palmer's knees to shreds two plays into the game. That Bengals team was good enough, and the AFC was weak enough in 2005-06, that the Bengals could have made a run at Super Bowl XL with a healthy Palmer. But aside from that, there's no excuse. Every year the Bengals get to the playoffs and every year they get dumped in the Wild Card round. In their five Wild Card eliminations in the past six seasons, they've scored 14, 10, 13, 10, and 10. And it's not like they squared off against world-beaters. They lost to the Jets, Texans, Texans, Chargers, and Colts. Only the 2009-10 Jets would win their next playoff game. It's to the point now where, as a football fan, I get frustrated when the Bengals get in the playoffs because I know it'll mean three hours on a Saturday or Sunday devoted to watching them bumble all over the field and get trounced. As I said last January, as the Bengals were getting pummeled by the Colts, if I have to decide between Marvin Lewis and Andy Dalton to salvage the future of this franchise, I'd tell Lewis to go kick rocks, then hire an offensive-minded head coach who understands how to build a game plan based around Dalton's strengths and weaknesses.
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