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Post by Shark on Feb 5, 2016 22:04:31 GMT -5
Watching the August 17, 1998 episode. The show is from Hartford, CT. During the opening segment with Hogan, the announcers mention a million times about how this is their first show in CT, and how this was the house Hogan built. Did WWF do this during the first Raw in Atlanta? What's funniest about that to me is that WWE's offices are in Stamford, CT. Hartford is 70 miles away. Had the show been in Stamford, maybe that would have been a better line
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Post by lws on Feb 6, 2016 3:36:34 GMT -5
Watching the August 17, 1998 episode. The show is from Hartford, CT. During the opening segment with Hogan, the announcers mention a million times about how this is their first show in CT, and how this was the house Hogan built. Did WWF do this during the first Raw in Atlanta? idk about the first time but there was this one time they sent a tank to wcw headquarters which is probably just as childish i mean iconic and awesome, ahem
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 11:43:44 GMT -5
I randomly picked spring breakout 99 I'm less than an hour in and this is terrible tv and the announcers keep telling me that nitro doesn't start till 9pm.Bull Payne vs Van Hammer opener was a poor choice. Crazy thing is, wrestling was so hot, this probably got a bigger quarter hour rating than some Raw main events at the end of last year. This is very true but still it always amazed me some of the match choices wcw had during that period like when Raw's hitting the air and they throw out Stevie Ray vs Vincent or Sick Boy vs Lenny Lane or putting Goldberg on 10 minutes before raw so that you know you can stop watching nitro.
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Post by 67 more on Feb 7, 2016 12:46:03 GMT -5
Watching the August 17, 1998 episode. The show is from Hartford, CT. During the opening segment with Hogan, the announcers mention a million times about how this is their first show in CT, and how this was the house Hogan built. Did WWF do this during the first Raw in Atlanta? idk about the first time but there was this one time they sent a tank to wcw headquarters which is probably just as childish i mean iconic and awesome, ahem Never heard of it.
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Post by Goldash #BLM on Feb 7, 2016 17:53:36 GMT -5
Hogan's "jiggly jiggly jew" promo with Chuck Zito in the limo is there, unedited and just as nonsensical as it was back then...
...even more nonsensical was the fact they replayed it 500 times in the next two weeks! I still don't get it.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Feb 8, 2016 3:53:16 GMT -5
Watching the 4/28/98 episode. Waiting to see if you can hear the fear in the broadcasters voice when they find out HHH are approaching to close down WCW
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Post by sfvega on Feb 10, 2016 3:02:12 GMT -5
I picked up where I left off re-watching WCW in February 98 on a site. I'm at GAB 98.
-I HATE the Jericho and DDP dubbing, as they were good themes and it's not accurate. Especially the Jericho one, as it was REALLY generic and I can't imagine they don't have the rights to it. It was right on the Rise and Fall of WCW DVD.
-In November 97, Bret Hart and Sting were arguably the two most popular and sympathetic characters in all of wrestling. Yes, Raws were booked around a white-hot Austin. But I do think you could make an argument for the other 2. But by June, Sting was just another guy on the Wolfpac bandwagon (which was quite over tho), and Bret Hart's contribution on Nitros is wearing Hogan t-shirts and talking about how great Hulk Hogan is. I know it was bad, but I didn't remember it QUITE this bad. Those guys are presented as absolutely 2nd rate. Guys who are presented better right now include The Giant, Chavo Guerrero, Juvi, Dean Malenko, Booker T, etc. That list will soon include Malone and Leno.
-I haven't made it through the entire month of June 98, but I can completely confidently say that for the first 6 months of 1998 that for every 2 hours of Nitro/PPVs, there is no less than 17 minutes of bell ringing. Holy shit, they abuse the bejesus out of that bell. I know that they wanted to use it to indicate chaos, but they overused it and I genuinely feel for anyone who had those seats behind the timekeeper at any of these events. I legitimately would have considered leaving.
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Post by 67 more on Feb 10, 2016 3:12:07 GMT -5
I picked up where I left off re-watching WCW in February 98 on a site. I'm at GAB 98. -I HATE the Jericho and DDP dubbing, as they were good themes and it's not accurate. Especially the Jericho one, as it was REALLY generic and I can't imagine they don't have the rights to it. It was right on the Rise and Fall of WCW DVD. -In November 97, Bret Hart and Sting were arguably the two most popular and sympathetic characters in all of wrestling. Yes, Raws were booked around a white-hot Austin. But I do think you could make an argument for the other 2. But by June, Sting was just another guy on the Wolfpac bandwagon (which was quite over tho), and Bret Hart's contribution on Nitros is wearing Hogan t-shirts and talking about how great Hulk Hogan is. I know it was bad, but I didn't remember it QUITE this bad. Those guys are presented as absolutely 2nd rate. Guys who are presented better right now include The Giant, Chavo Guerrero, Juvi, Dean Malenko, Booker T, etc. That list will soon include Malone and Leno. -I haven't made it through the entire month of June 98, but I can completely confidently say that for the first 6 months of 1998 that for every 2 hours of Nitro/PPVs, there is no less than 17 minutes of bell ringing. Holy shit, they abuse the bejesus out of that bell. I know that they wanted to use it to indicate chaos, but they overused it and I genuinely feel for anyone who had those seats behind the timekeeper at any of these events. I legitimately would have considered leaving. A lot of the WCW themes are edited due to being too close to real songs. While WWE own the DDP song, it's too close to Smells Like Teen Spirit. WWE doesn't own the Jericho theme, its a production track, but it's too close to Pearl Jam's Even Flow. Raven's is edited (Come As You Are), Public Enemy's is edited (Here Comes Tha Hotstepper), Shane Douglas's is edited (Perfect Strangers), Jeff Jarrett's is edited (Cowboy).
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Post by sfvega on Feb 10, 2016 3:19:49 GMT -5
I picked up where I left off re-watching WCW in February 98 on a site. I'm at GAB 98. -I HATE the Jericho and DDP dubbing, as they were good themes and it's not accurate. Especially the Jericho one, as it was REALLY generic and I can't imagine they don't have the rights to it. It was right on the Rise and Fall of WCW DVD. -In November 97, Bret Hart and Sting were arguably the two most popular and sympathetic characters in all of wrestling. Yes, Raws were booked around a white-hot Austin. But I do think you could make an argument for the other 2. But by June, Sting was just another guy on the Wolfpac bandwagon (which was quite over tho), and Bret Hart's contribution on Nitros is wearing Hogan t-shirts and talking about how great Hulk Hogan is. I know it was bad, but I didn't remember it QUITE this bad. Those guys are presented as absolutely 2nd rate. Guys who are presented better right now include The Giant, Chavo Guerrero, Juvi, Dean Malenko, Booker T, etc. That list will soon include Malone and Leno. -I haven't made it through the entire month of June 98, but I can completely confidently say that for the first 6 months of 1998 that for every 2 hours of Nitro/PPVs, there is no less than 17 minutes of bell ringing. Holy shit, they abuse the bejesus out of that bell. I know that they wanted to use it to indicate chaos, but they overused it and I genuinely feel for anyone who had those seats behind the timekeeper at any of these events. I legitimately would have considered leaving. A lot of the WCW themes are edited due to being too close to real songs. While WWE own the DDP song, it's too close to Smells Like Teen Spirit. WWE doesn't own the Jericho theme, its a production track, but it's too close to Pearl Jam's Even Flow. Raven's is edited (Come As You Are), Public Enemy's is edited (Here Comes Tha Hotstepper), Shane Douglas's is edited (Perfect Strangers), Jeff Jarrett's is edited (Cowboy). I never knew about Jericho's being a rip-off. I guess I understand their concern about getting sued about it, but they did use it on 24/7 and the DVDs.
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Post by 67 more on Feb 10, 2016 3:26:14 GMT -5
A lot of the WCW themes are edited due to being too close to real songs. While WWE own the DDP song, it's too close to Smells Like Teen Spirit. WWE doesn't own the Jericho theme, its a production track, but it's too close to Pearl Jam's Even Flow. Raven's is edited (Come As You Are), Public Enemy's is edited (Here Comes Tha Hotstepper), Shane Douglas's is edited (Perfect Strangers), Jeff Jarrett's is edited (Cowboy). I never knew about Jericho's being a rip-off. I guess I understand their concern about getting sued about it, but they did use it on 24/7 and the DVDs. They've got really careful about it since the Network has started. Songs that were considered fine before aren't being touched now.
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Post by cjh on Feb 10, 2016 3:52:38 GMT -5
I never knew about Jericho's being a rip-off. I guess I understand their concern about getting sued about it, but they did use it on 24/7 and the DVDs. They've got really careful about it since the Network has started. Songs that were considered fine before aren't being touched now. What makes it bizarre is that with Shane Douglas and Taz, they're replacing the WCW/ECW knockoff versions with different ripoff versions, presumably written by Jim Johnston. They're not as obvious, I guess, but they're still close enough to know. Taz's actual 1997-1999 ECW themes were/are left intact on the ECW PPVs on the Network, but they're now being replaced on the Hardcore TV episodes currently being added. If you watch WrestlePalooza 1998 and the episode of Hardcore TV that followed it (May 6, 1998), Taz's segment with Douglas has Taz's theme left intact on the PPV but replaced in the TV airing. On a side note, I noticed that on the 4-21-1997 ECW Hardcore TV show, during one of Joey Styles's on camera segments, the replacement music is a knockoff of the music being replaced (Iggy Pop's "Lust for Life"). I'm not sure if Johnston wrote it, or if WWE just happened to find production music that sounded like the real song.
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Post by britishbulldog on Feb 10, 2016 23:28:04 GMT -5
Davey boy looked like crap by the time warrior showed up. Looks very unhealthy.
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