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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 7, 2016 17:50:25 GMT -5
Definitely Mankind's Mandible Claw. I always thought that move was so stupid looking and hokey. I never understood why no one just bit his fingers or just wail away on his face with punches or devastate his body with kicks, but dog gone it, Mick made that thing work! Didn't hurt that none of the other wrestlers seemed to have any problem with selling it. I've done a weak form of it to myself, and yeah, I could see where it would friggin' hurt if done right. It was a nerve hold, the point was once he was in, you couldn't actually close your jaw. He tended to at least wait for opportune times to do it, like catching guys off guard. The sock kind of turned it into a comedy thing. For me, the example I'd go with is Sting making the reverse DDT a decent finisher. It's usually the most "we couldn't bother to think of anything" finisher you can give a guy, but Sting made it work.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Feb 7, 2016 17:58:49 GMT -5
Under normal circumstances a thumb to the throat is just stupid. But Umaga made it look like he could literally separate your head from your body with that thumb. Have someone, anyone, jam a thumb into your throat as hard as they can, right now, then report back to us. Not taking away from Umaga, but a strike to the throat can be pretty brutal.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 7, 2016 18:02:06 GMT -5
The Peoples Elbow
It helps that it started as a mid-match taunt move that got really popular and slowly inched its way to being just as effective as the Rock Bottom.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Feb 7, 2016 18:02:23 GMT -5
And to people saying Hogan's leg drop, when he started in the business, that was considered a legitimate finish. Especially from a dude his size, and with the height he used to get.
Now, yea, I get it. It looks lame. But, different times.
With Rude, the Rude Awakening was the first time I ever saw that style neckbreaker, and it seemed like death to me. How common was that neckbreaker variant at that time?
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 7, 2016 18:17:11 GMT -5
Under normal circumstances a thumb to the throat is just stupid. But Umaga made it look like he could literally separate your head from your body with that thumb. Have someone, anyone, jam a thumb into your throat as hard as they can, right now, then report back to us. Not taking away from Umaga, but a strike to the throat can be pretty brutal. I'm not saying it wouldn't hurt. I'm just saying it's not usually visually impressive. Except when Umaga did it he could make it look like death.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Feb 7, 2016 18:19:01 GMT -5
Have someone, anyone, jam a thumb into your throat as hard as they can, right now, then report back to us. Not taking away from Umaga, but a strike to the throat can be pretty brutal. I'm not saying it wouldn't hurt. I'm just saying it's not usually visually impressive. Except when Umaga did it he could make it look like death. I gotcha. My bad on the misinterpreting.
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Post by paperbackhero on Feb 7, 2016 18:24:21 GMT -5
And to people saying Hogan's leg drop, when he started in the business, that was considered a legitimate finish. Especially from a dude his size, and with the height he used to get. Now, yea, I get it. It looks lame. But, different times. With Rude, the Rude Awakening was the first time I ever saw that style neckbreaker, and it seemed like death to me. How common was that neckbreaker variant at that time? It's a hangman neckbreaker. Hawk used it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 7, 2016 18:26:20 GMT -5
And to people saying Hogan's leg drop, when he started in the business, that was considered a legitimate finish. Especially from a dude his size, and with the height he used to get. Now, yea, I get it. It looks lame. But, different times. With Rude, the Rude Awakening was the first time I ever saw that style neckbreaker, and it seemed like death to me. How common was that neckbreaker variant at that time? It's a hangman neckbreaker. Hawk used it. Yeah but it was a finisher for him too as a singles guy, wasn't it? Every now and then, people have tried using it as a finisher nowadays, and it doesn't click. Sandow and Goldust I can remember doing it.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Feb 7, 2016 18:33:47 GMT -5
Terry Funk and Dory Funk with the Spinning Toe Hold
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Post by Christian on Feb 7, 2016 18:37:56 GMT -5
I know most probably won't agree with this but MVP using the Overdrive just looked right. I personally loved it! There was that time when he hit in on Michael PS. Hayes
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Post by paperbackhero on Feb 7, 2016 18:40:16 GMT -5
It's a hangman neckbreaker. Hawk used it. Yeah but it was a finisher for him too as a singles guy, wasn't it? Every now and then, people have tried using it as a finisher nowadays, and it doesn't click. Sandow and Goldust I can remember doing it. He used it in Georgia, iirc, and his little singles shots in JCP when he had his Flaur matches at the GAB.
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Post by spagett on Feb 7, 2016 18:50:53 GMT -5
The Peoples Elbow It helps that it started as a mid-match taunt move that got really popular and slowly inched its way to being just as effective as the Rock Bottom. It's this, a move that started as a rib to make the other wrestlers laugh grew into one of the most over moves in Wrestling history. And it's just a silly elbow drop. Brilliant
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 8, 2016 10:29:07 GMT -5
Made by the guy who sold it? Edge's Spear, when it's done to Jeff Hardy. If he didn't sell it like death, it would be NOTHING.
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Post by Christian on Feb 8, 2016 11:13:25 GMT -5
Made by the guy who sold it? Edge's Spear, when it's done to Jeff Hardy. If he didn't sell it like death, it would be NOTHING. A lot of people don't like Edge's Spear, but I think at times it could be awesome (depending on the guy who's taking it).
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 8, 2016 11:40:22 GMT -5
Not really what this thread is going for, but the first thing I thought of was Jim Ross. He could explain the logic and psychology behind a move without it being boring, and when he cared, his reactions to a finisher made it sound huge.
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 8, 2016 11:52:49 GMT -5
Jake Roberts and the DDT. Its honestly not a very big, impressive looking kind of move, but when he did it, it felt like the touch of death.
Not that I think having someone deliver a blow to you're head is pleasant, but a karate chop to the skull just doesn't look so impressive as a wrestling finisher. But Khali made it work.
And the Yokozuna Bonzai Splat-seriously, all he was doing was sitting on someone, and usually pretty gentle. But when he did it, you'd swear he was flattening the other guy.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Feb 8, 2016 15:00:48 GMT -5
Jake Roberts and the DDT. Its honestly not a very big, impressive looking kind of move, but when he did it, it felt like the touch of death. Not that I think having someone deliver a blow to you're head is pleasant, but a karate chop to the skull just doesn't look so impressive as a wrestling finisher. But Khali made it work. And the Yokozuna Bonzai Splat-seriously, all he was doing was sitting on someone, and usually pretty gentle. But when he did it, you'd swear he was flattening the other guy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=il0PMU5xCpoYea, that looks gentle... That said, this kind of drop was rare, and he was usually much more gentle with it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 15:48:16 GMT -5
The People's Elbow and the Five Knuckle Shuffle.
The amount of time your opponent is lying flat on their back while you are posing and pandering to the crowd, you could have just pinned him for a Big E style five count.
Also, why don't they come after the respective Rock Bottom and Attitude Adjustment, since those moves put your opponent on their back?
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Post by Starshine on Feb 8, 2016 18:19:07 GMT -5
Stone Cold's finish was a jawbreaker. Yet it was also once the most popular movie in pro wrestling history.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 8, 2016 18:23:58 GMT -5
The People's Elbow and the Five Knuckle Shuffle. The amount of time your opponent is lying flat on their back while you are posing and pandering to the crowd, you could have just pinned him for a Big E style five count. Also, why don't they come after the respective Rock Bottom and Attitude Adjustment, since those moves put your opponent on their back? I could swear Rock's done the Rock Bottom before into the People's Elbow, it just typically was the spinebuster he'd lead up to it with. I also figure they'd sell it as being just because someone is down, it doesn't mean they wouldn't kick out of a pin. Kicking out is doable even if you can't quite get up yet.
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