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Post by RadcapRadsley on Feb 12, 2016 3:30:31 GMT -5
I think what the OP is getting at is after you've booked Sheamus vs Orton you still have 118 wrestlers with no purpose.
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Post by Vern on Feb 12, 2016 5:38:07 GMT -5
[a Angelo Dawkins Sawyer Fulton Dana Brooke Hugo Knox Tino Sabbatelli Not really getting the point of 'developmental' are you? Developmental would be fine without those five.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Feb 12, 2016 5:49:46 GMT -5
BUT A BITCH AIN'T ONE HIT ME
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Post by berlynwright on Feb 12, 2016 6:11:35 GMT -5
Not really getting the point of 'developmental' are you? Developmental would be fine without those five. Dana Brooke has improved lots and is one of the success stories of NXT as a traditional developmental system.
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Post by Vern on Feb 12, 2016 6:22:43 GMT -5
Developmental would be fine without those five. Dana Brooke has improved lots and is one of the success stories of NXT as a traditional developmental system. Yeah, unlike the others for which I have some sort of reason, Dana Brooke just irks me. It's not her talent as much as her personality. That being said, I don't find her extremely talented either. Not abysmal, but not worthy of her prominent place.
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Post by Abdullah on Feb 12, 2016 6:30:00 GMT -5
I just can't get behind Braun. Ryback's a liability. Hugo's gone as soon as his past is made public. What's this about Hugo?
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Post by Vern on Feb 12, 2016 6:34:06 GMT -5
I just can't get behind Braun. Ryback's a liability. Hugo's gone as soon as his past is made public. What's this about Hugo? He was an escort.
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Post by Abdullah on Feb 12, 2016 6:36:55 GMT -5
Ah. If WWE knew that going in, they shouldn't have signed him to begin with.
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Post by Vern on Feb 12, 2016 6:42:22 GMT -5
Ah. If WWE knew that going in, they shouldn't have signed him to begin with. I found the post I made when he was signed if you're interested. He wasn't just outed, he was hung out to dry. Could have lied about it, they don't take kindly to that. He better hope he didn't... In summary: -A woman who worked for Burton Albion (the football club) gets accused of sexually harassing players. -Stuart (Hugo) Tomlinson's name was brought up in the legal proceedings as one with whom she had a fling. -Burton Albion club chairman Ben Robinson proceeds to out Tomlinson while giving legal statements on the matter saying "He was a male model and a male escort" (part-time, while playing for Burton Albion) and "I’ve had no problems with that." I'm positive the chairman of a pro football club wouldn't say at a legal proceeding that he knew someone playing for his club was a part-time male escort if he wasn't. I would assume Tomlinson told him under full disclosure as he was an active escort. Now whether he would disclose to WWE that he used to be an escort in England I don't know...
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Post by Vern on Feb 12, 2016 6:51:45 GMT -5
For the record, I don't care that he was an escort, did nude modelling or did whatever. More power to him, it's not my business. I just know that WWE DOES care.
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Post by -Lithium- on Feb 12, 2016 8:33:53 GMT -5
I would have thought 2008. The roster seemed massive. Full of talent, too. 3 brands all with their own lower carders, mid carders, and legit seeming main eventers. WWE can't even do with one brand today...
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 12, 2016 8:52:08 GMT -5
Out of those 120 wrestlers only one..... IS A CERTIFIED G AND A BONAFIED STUD! AND YOU CAN'T TEACH THAT! [ Yeah, G is about as high this humanoid can spell and when the teacher saw Big Cass, she went: "this dummy? You can't teach THAT!".
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Post by hbkid718 on Feb 12, 2016 14:05:27 GMT -5
120...yet their product is so extremely stale, and filled with repeat matches. To WWE's credit, there has been less re-matches so far this year. This time last year, they were already up to 21 re-matches. So far in 2016, we've only had 16. Titus O’Neil VS Stardust (4) (1/4/16 RAW, 1/5/16 ME, 1/11/16 RAW, 1/21/16 SD) Becky Lynch VS Charlotte (3) (1/4/16 RAW, 1/7/16 SD, 1/24/16 WWE ROYAL RUMBLE) Kalisto VS Alberto Del Rio (4) (1/7/16 SD, 1/11/16 RAW, 1/14/16 SD, 1/24/16 WWE ROYAL RUMBLE) Mark Henry & Jack Swagger VS The Ascension (4) (1/1/16 SUP, 1/12/16 ME, 1/19/16 ME, 2/5/16 SUP) Jack Swagger VS Tyler Breeze (2) (1/8/16 SUP, 1/15/16 SUP) Dean Ambrose VS Kevin Owens (2) (1/7/16 SD, 1/24/16 WWE ROYAL RUMBLE) The Usos VS The New Day (E & Kingston) (2) (1/11/16 RAW, 1/24/16 WWE ROYAL RUMBLE) The Dudley Boyz VS The Ascension (2) (1/15/16 SUP, 1/26/16 ME) Titus O’Neil VS Tyler Breeze (2) (1/29/16 SUP, 2/1/16 RAW) Dolph Ziggler VS Kevin Owens (3) (1/25/16 RAW, 2/1/16 RAW, 2/8/16 RAW) Becky Lynch VS Sasha Banks (2) (1/25/16 RAW, 2/1/16 RAW) Roman Reigns VS Rusev (2) (1/18/16 RAW, 2/4/16 SD) Jack Swagger VS Fandango (1/22/16 SUP, 2/2/16 ME) Alicia Fox VS Charlotte (2) (2/4/16 SD, 2/8/16 RAW) Ryback VS Bray Wyatt (2) (1/21/16 SD, 2/8/16 RAW) AJ Styles VS Chris Jericho (1/25/16 RAW, 2/11/16 SD)
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Feb 12, 2016 17:05:37 GMT -5
Ah. If WWE knew that going in, they shouldn't have signed him to begin with. I found the post I made when he was signed if you're interested. He wasn't just outed, he was hung out to dry. He better hope he didn't... In summary: -A woman who worked for Burton Albion (the football club) gets accused of sexually harassing players. -Stuart (Hugo) Tomlinson's name was brought up in the legal proceedings as one with whom she had a fling. -Burton Albion club chairman Ben Robinson proceeds to out Tomlinson while giving legal statements on the matter saying "He was a male model and a male escort" (part-time, while playing for Burton Albion) and "I’ve had no problems with that." I'm positive the chairman of a pro football club wouldn't say at a legal proceeding that he knew someone playing for his club was a part-time male escort if he wasn't. I would assume Tomlinson told him under full disclosure as he was an active escort. Now whether he would disclose to WWE that he used to be an escort in England I don't know... The only way this is ever likely to be even a non-story of a story is if someone actively goes digging for dirt and trying to get it plastered everywhere if he gets called up. I knew of him as Stuart Tomlinson the Burton Albion keeper, even as someone who keeps up pretty closely with all the goings-on of football I had never, ever heard this male escort stuff. So it really shouldn't matter at all, because I don't think many people care.
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Post by darkjourney on Feb 12, 2016 17:09:51 GMT -5
120 wrestlers and they only utilize like 4-5 of them.
I wonder how long before a big time spring cleaning? Thats an awfully big payroll with 95 percent of them doing nothing
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 12, 2016 17:11:30 GMT -5
120 wrestlers and they only utilize like 4-5 of them. I wonder how long before a big time spring cleaning? Thats an awfully big payroll with 95 percent of them doing nothing They won't have any major releases unless something happens where they lose a lot of money and need to find some way to "compensate" those losses.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 17:23:41 GMT -5
I would have thought 2008. The roster seemed massive. Full of talent, too. 3 brands all with their own lower carders, mid carders, and legit seeming main eventers. WWE can't even do with one brand today... That's a good point, when they had 3 brands it's possible they had that many, including developmental. The rosters were pretty small though, ECW seemed to have about 12 wrestlers and Smackdown around 20.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 17:25:11 GMT -5
120 wrestlers and they only utilize like 4-5 of them. I wonder how long before a big time spring cleaning? Thats an awfully big payroll with 95 percent of them doing nothing A lot of them are training at the PC or in NXT, so they're at least being evaluated and having their potential assessed. On the main roster though, yeah there's some dead weight.
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Post by Vern on Feb 12, 2016 22:43:54 GMT -5
I found the post I made when he was signed if you're interested. He wasn't just outed, he was hung out to dry. The only way this is ever likely to be even a non-story of a story is if someone actively goes digging for dirt and trying to get it plastered everywhere if he gets called up. I knew of him as Stuart Tomlinson the Burton Albion keeper, even as someone who keeps up pretty closely with all the goings-on of football I had never, ever heard this male escort stuff. So it really shouldn't matter at all, because I don't think many people care. The point wasn't whether or not people would care. It's that WWE would care. The fear he could be released anytime means that I just can't get invested in him. That, ironically, is why I voted release.
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Post by nisidhe on Feb 13, 2016 8:13:50 GMT -5
The only way this is ever likely to be even a non-story of a story is if someone actively goes digging for dirt and trying to get it plastered everywhere if he gets called up. I knew of him as Stuart Tomlinson the Burton Albion keeper, even as someone who keeps up pretty closely with all the goings-on of football I had never, ever heard this male escort stuff. So it really shouldn't matter at all, because I don't think many people care. The point wasn't whether or not people would care. It's that WWE would care. The fear he could be released anytime means that I just can't get invested in him. That, ironically, is why I voted release. It would greatly depend on how "active" he was in the media as a male model/escort. If his modelling work was exclusively non-porn (some "art" stuff might fly), he should be fine. If he's got porn stills or a video out there, that could be a problem. Consider also where he's from - the odds of anything popping up about him stateside is close to nil - seriously. This isn't a Chyna case - she might say something of it, but would have little evidence and has blown her credibility to smithereens at this point - and it won't impact WWE one iota, especially if there are no pics.
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