Matches where you feel the wrong person went over

[cabbageboy]

If that is indeed true about Yokozuna, why would he be someone for Bret to go over? It wasn't a very natural match up, since Yoko was over 500 lbs. and Bret couldn't really do much with him out there. Why not put Hennig in that spot? Or the recently debuted Razor Ramon? Or just save the Flair title change for WM? Or keep it on Savage and have Bret dethrone him in a passing the torch match? I mean why Yokozuna of all people?

[CeilingFan]

Feb 24, 2016 14:09:46 GMT -5 joediego said:

Feb 24, 2016 13:55:53 GMT -5 Nickybojelais said:

See I don't have a problem with Yoko winning here. If it was Bret losing to someone from like Savage, Warrior Hogan I'd be against it, as the top face of the New Generation losing to a member of the old guard wouldn't look good.

I know Yokozuna ended up losing it to a member of the old guard after the match, but I have less of a problem with that due to how Hogan won it.

You realise that the whole point of Yokozuna was so Bret could go over him right?  He was designed as a short-term monster character to help Bret get over as the top guy by retaining against him (just like Hogan had vs Bundy and Andre @ 2 and 3).

Vince wasn't completely sold on Bret but he literally had no other choice given the steroid scandal and people leaving.  Hogan exploited Vince's weakness by promising to drop the belt clean to Bret at Summerslam (passing the torch) if he could win it at Mania.  As soon as he won it he let everybody know he wouldn't be dropping it to Bret, and only agreed to lose it to a heel (Yoko) via cheating. 

Hogan's politicking would basically have ended Bret's run as the top guy forever, as Vince by this point had decided that Luger would be the guy and be coronated at WM X after a long story arc.  A combination of the fan's not letting it happen (yes, fans rejecting Vince's terrible choices has been going on for  over two decades) and Luger's behaviour behind the scenes allowed Bret to come back for another run at the top (until Vince could get Diesel, and then HBK to take over).

Poor Bret, the wrestler Vince never really wanted on top, a 1990s Daniel Bryan.

Excellent description of Bret Hart (1990s Daniel Bryan).

["Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly]

Anytime Triple H and Roman Reigns won a match.

AMIRITE?!

[The Stranger]

Feb 24, 2016 14:18:22 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

If that is indeed true about Yokozuna, why would he be someone for Bret to go over? It wasn't a very natural match up, since Yoko was over 500 lbs. and Bret couldn't really do much with him out there. Why not put Hennig in that spot? Or the recently debuted Razor Ramon? Or just save the Flair title change for WM? Or keep it on Savage and have Bret dethrone him in a passing the torch match? I mean why Yokozuna of all people?

Flair left before Mania in January.

[mcstoklasa]

I don't really want to see Sting in WWE anymore

[Macho Pichu]

Bray Wyatt/ the Wyatt Family in any match or feud, really. I'm fine with a few losses here and there, but there is no reason a supposed team should lose to a group of random guys who weren't even a team two weeks ago and disbanded a week later.

[Famous Rocking Chimes]

Nexus really should've won at SummerSlam 2010.

Instead we got Cena no-selling a DDT on concrete and eliminating Gabriel and Barrett in rapid succession.

[Cela]

Carlito over anyone during his no finisher run.

Del Rio over anyone.

And unpopular, but really wish people would beat Kevin Owens more. Guy just doesn't do it for me.

And of course, HHH over Punk, Booker T, and many others.

Cena over Henry in the arm wrestling match.

Shield over Ryback in maybe one match. Was way too one sided and completely derailed a pretty popular wrecking machine.

Rollins cashing in over Reigns and Brock. Reigns was winning me over with this match, I would have been happy with him winning. Also, led to Rollins doing his annoying loping run away for a year.

Hornswoggle over the cruiserweight division. Ruined one of the more fun parts of the company.

And many more.

[joediego]

Feb 24, 2016 14:18:22 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

If that is indeed true about Yokozuna, why would he be someone for Bret to go over? It wasn't a very natural match up, since Yoko was over 500 lbs. and Bret couldn't really do much with him out there. Why not put Hennig in that spot? Or the recently debuted Razor Ramon? Or just save the Flair title change for WM? Or keep it on Savage and have Bret dethrone him in a passing the torch match? I mean why Yokozuna of all people?

1) Hennig?  Bret had beaten him clean in a high profile match at Summerslam 1991.  He wasn't a credible threat as a top player.  If you wanted to have a ****+ match then yes, but Vince was trying to get Bret over as THE number one guy in the company, why would beating Henning again help that?

2) "Recently debuted Razor Ramon" - you just answered your own question.  The fact Vince McMahon put Ramon with Bob backlund showed you his opinion of the perennial IC title contender.

3) Flair was in WCW in February 1993.

4) Savage is the correct answer.  Why Vince didn't do a pass the torch at Mania 9 between the Hulkamania generation (Savage) and the New generation I don't know.  But it's well publicised that Vince, for whatever reason ("Where to Stephanie?") was done with the Macho Man as an in-ring performer, hence him being wasted on commentary during WMIX. 

Yokozuna was Vince booking 101 - create monster heel for babyface to beat.  He had been to that well so many times before.

For those that said they had no problem Yoko going over Bret but had a problem with the Hogan run-in - are you seriously advocating ending Wrestlemania with the heel winning as the babyface writhes, blinded in pain?  If so are you related to Triple H?

[fw91]

Just bc I hated the déjà vu of having the same ending to a main event in back to back years of Cena retaining via stf, I think HBK should have beaten Cena at mania 23.

[ellisdee]

Feb 24, 2016 14:15:23 GMT -5 edgehead said:

Bret Hart is my favorite wrestler of all time and I had no problem with Bret losing to Yokozuna, but in no way should Hogan have come out and squashed Yoko afterward. The only thing that could've made that go well is if Hogan was going to "pass the torch" to Bret Hart at Summerslam 1993.

That's where my hate comes from. No issue with Yoko...but Hogan...ugh.

[Fade]

Shawn should have gone over Angle. Ironically, it was Shawns call. And he chose to give Angle the win.

[Tea & Crumpets]

I'm not even his biggest fan but Owens should have beaten Cena in their 2nd match. That loss and the rubbermatch took him from "hottest new star going" to "Just another guy who fluked a great debut". Make him that one dude Cena just can't beat for some reason, who no matter how good Cena is Owens always slips past him, and you have a star.

[Mid-Carder]

Feb 24, 2016 15:52:56 GMT -5 Fade said:

Shawn should have gone over Angle. Ironically, it was Shawns call. And he chose to give Angle the win.

Why do you think this? Genuine question.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Feb 24, 2016 13:34:10 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

I had no problem with Triple H winning that match. After everything Orton had done, Trips had to get some revenge. The problem was the match should have been no-DQ, and an all out war with Trips winning thanks to Batista's return.

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Triple H at the Rumble this year

Roman Reigns at Fastlane this year

Either of them at Mania in a little over a month

[Fade]

Feb 24, 2016 15:54:14 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

Feb 24, 2016 15:52:56 GMT -5 Fade said:

Shawn should have gone over Angle. Ironically, it was Shawns call. And he chose to give Angle the win.

Why do you think this? Genuine question.

Because Shawn will be the more important figure in history.

At the time, I can see why Shawn chose to. But Angle ended up leaving, burning bridges with the company, and going crazy.

Also, im a mark for Shawn.

[cuppacoffee - slight return]

More for the Pile of Trips matches over here...

Foley should have beaten him in the Street Fight at Rumble 2000. Their next match, their next damned match, was their Hell In A Cell match at No Way Out, which Foley was definitely going to lose in order to retire.

There's nothing gained by Trips winning at the Rumble, especially in his "I'm the heel, but I'll pin him clean with no bother, having overcome a crazed Foley and interference from The Rock" style.

Foley going into No Way Out as champ, with the chance of headlining Mania in his grasp, then having it snatched away by some devious, last-ditch HHH win would have been a heartbreaking conclusion to the feud. As it was, those two clean wins, back-to-back, pitch the story of the feud as "Foley wasn't good enough, twice. The end."

It weakened the build for the Cell match and weakened Foley as a character, ending on a losing streak against a supposed heel who doesn't even have to cheat to win.

[Malcolm]

This may sound like sour apples, but I still think Lesnar shouldn't have beaten Taker at Wrestlemania(especially consider how much they made Lesnar look somewhat like a goober later on).

It should've been Cena(or for hilarity, Shane) to end the streak, but it is what it is...

Also, Ryback should've went over Punk for the title since he was red hot at the time. He also should've beaten the Shield at least once.

[Ben Wyatt]

Cena/Wyatt at Wrestlemania 30