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Post by Old Jack Burton on Mar 2, 2016 2:36:12 GMT -5
The sad thing is, the Steph of old (99-02) was always being humiliated, took every finisher there was, was insulted weekly and always got her comeuppance. And she was as good as Vince at it. It's sad that she's changed completely. Perhaps a rampant ego is sexually transmitted. I've seen no indication from Stephanie that she is no longer willing to do these spots, but you have to remember she is not running the WWE just yet. She does what Vince says for her to do, and right now and for the past few years Vince's decision is to never let a male lay their hands on a female in the WWE. My own opinion is Steph would jump at the chance to take an F5, Curb Stomp, Attitude Adjustment, or a Spear. But it's not up to her.
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Post by 111111 on Mar 2, 2016 3:31:32 GMT -5
That was one of the best promos she's cut in ages (and her promos are usually great)
How angry I see people getting about her proves how good she is at her job.
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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 2, 2016 3:53:51 GMT -5
Eh, I though it was a really good promo. Wove together the real-life and kayfabe narratives and built until she was practically frothing at the mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 4:04:52 GMT -5
I can't tell whether Steph's or Vince's promo was lamer. Either one could have been a 1-minute backstage segment and been way better.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Mar 2, 2016 5:43:47 GMT -5
COMEUPPANCE!!!
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 2, 2016 10:14:11 GMT -5
The argument about her getting more hate due to being a woman is why I'm uneasy about her whole heel shtick.
Outside of the ring she presents herself as a feminist icon. The strong independent women part rings hollow due to her being born into money and working for the family business but it's fine as long as she's doing something good (even just inspiring young girls) with her wealth and power then that's cool. Which of course she has done.
Unfortunately she then uses that persona in her heel work. She loves things like her "A Woman can do anything a man can do, only better" line and as others have covered she abuses her gender to commit heelish act without any comeuppance.
That bothers plenty of adults and I guess it could be argued that's good heeling. That part of the audience can appreciate that's what she's doing on some level.
However is that really the message she really wants to be sending to the impressionable teens watching? Is that how she wants the girls that look up to her to behave? Does she want boys to have that negative view of women at a time in their lives when their female peers are at an advantage over them? We've seen how stoking those existing frustrations can cause them to boil over into something like gamergate. Is that really how she wants a generation to view feminists?
But really that's Steph, she sees things from her own little bubbled and doesn't seem to think through how it must appear to others, be that her 9/11 comments, that unfortunate philanthropy tweet or indeed her current heel shtick.
(I was also going to throw in a part about how the four horsewomen have done more for women's wrestling in a year than she has in 15 but I've already written an essay)
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Post by deviljatt86 on Mar 2, 2016 17:34:46 GMT -5
Everyone is saying that no guy can do anything when she is berating them, because they can't hit her, but I think you can, and I think Roman dealt with her in the best way, the week after he won the title on RAW, by just ignoring her. She told him to leave the ring, and he just stood there, not caring what she said or did. Then eventually he decided to leave, which irritated Stephanie because he left because HE himself wanted to, not because Stephanie wanted him to leave. She continued to scream, because he was ending the argument on his terms, not hers.
And I think that is the best way to get back at her. Just do what you want, and ignore her. It is very PG and I doubt anybody would object to it.
Now, if they start doing that or if Stephanie continues to be dominant is to be see. I myself think it will be the later.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Mar 2, 2016 17:35:51 GMT -5
She turned into Hilary Clinton during that promo.
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