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Post by wisdomwizard on May 2, 2016 22:12:50 GMT -5
And in the end Roman Reigns is still not a heel somehow F*** this company and its new era. Oh come on already. Roman is a tweener and has been since WrestleMania. From his perspective, AJ wanted to lay him out and was about to until his cousins saved him. And they attacked AJ because they didn't see him talking the Bullet Club down.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on May 2, 2016 22:12:54 GMT -5
Dang, Magic Killer on the outside looked fierce! That was the Boot of Doom, not the Magic Killer.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 2, 2016 22:14:16 GMT -5
And in the end Roman Reigns is still not a heel somehow F*** this company and its new era. Oh come on already. Roman is a tweener and has been since WrestleMania. From his perspective, AJ wanted to lay him out and was about to until his cousins saved him. And they attacked AJ because they didn't see him talking the Bullet Club down. AJ put the chair down and the Usos friggen laid him out with the chair he didn't use. That's BS right there as it is. As far as Roman goes, you tell me if that was sound booking strategy when a crowd that was FOR ONCE decently behind him, was booing him to shit by the end.
This is shit man, just plain shit.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on May 2, 2016 22:14:32 GMT -5
Yes. We'll forget that the Usos hit him first...
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Post by Error on May 2, 2016 22:14:50 GMT -5
I thought that was really well done, honestly. Everybody's motivation made sense. AJ didn't want to use the chair but he got attacked from behind by the Usos with chair because the Usos are dickheads. AJ is pissed and lays the Usos out with the chair but Roman only sees his brothers getting taken out by this douche with the bald friends. He doesn't know that AJ actually spared him and didn't want to do more damage. Roman, who has been shown to have a temper, goes nuts and murks AJ. Roman's obviously not in the right but at the same time, I can somewhat sympathize with his actions because he was defending his family. Really strong angle, I thought. I'm more interested now than I was before this show. If AJ wasn't such a goober I'd agree but they've given no reason to think AJ actually belongs in a WWE ring so why worry about him being nice?
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Post by wisdomwizard on May 2, 2016 22:15:46 GMT -5
I thought that was really well done, honestly. Everybody's motivation made sense. AJ didn't want to use the chair but he got attacked from behind by the Usos with chair because the Usos are dickheads. AJ is pissed and lays the Usos out with the chair but Roman only sees his brothers getting taken out by this douche with the bald friends. He doesn't know that AJ actually spared him and didn't want to do more damage. Roman, who has been shown to have a temper, goes nuts and murks AJ. Roman's obviously not in the right but at the same time, I can somewhat sympathize with his actions because he was defending his family. Really strong angle, I thought. I'm more interested now than I was before this show. Usos attacked because they didn't see AJ talk his boys down either. So there were shades all around. I like this because it could at least possibly lead to Usos turning heel later.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 22:16:18 GMT -5
AJ looks like a f***ing loser since this Reigns feud started. LOSER! I'm just really not seeing why AJ, the guy who used 21 finishers last night on Reigns, deserves to be in this feud. He's not going to win, Reigns is going to beat down him and his crew, just, it's not the fact that AJ looked like a joke tonight but it's the fact that it's literally like Goldberg vs Chris Jericho. I can't believe Jericho's going to win this match.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 2, 2016 22:16:47 GMT -5
I thought that was really well done, honestly. Everybody's motivation made sense. AJ didn't want to use the chair but he got attacked from behind by the Usos with chair because the Usos are dickheads. AJ is pissed and lays the Usos out with the chair but Roman only sees his brothers getting taken out by this douche with the bald friends. He doesn't know that AJ actually spared him and didn't want to do more damage. Roman, who has been shown to have a temper, goes nuts and murks AJ. Roman's obviously not in the right but at the same time, I can somewhat sympathize with his actions because he was defending his family. Really strong angle, I thought. I'm more interested now than I was before this show. If AJ wasn't such a goober I'd agree but they've given no reason to think AJ actually belongs in a WWE ring so why worry about him being nice? Well, that kinda is a massive hole in this story, lol. But I accepted AJ was a geek at Payback. I still stand by the fact that the Big Dog won clean at the PPV and AJ doesn't even deserve this shot. AJ basically admitted as much!
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Post by Professor Chaos on May 2, 2016 22:16:59 GMT -5
I just want Roman Reigns off TV completely and regulated to SuperStars or something. Been watching this stuff for over 30 years maybe just overdue for a break. The only breaks I took before were in 1994 and 2004.
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Post by wisdomwizard on May 2, 2016 22:17:53 GMT -5
Oh come on already. Roman is a tweener and has been since WrestleMania. From his perspective, AJ wanted to lay him out and was about to until his cousins saved him. And they attacked AJ because they didn't see him talking the Bullet Club down. AJ put the chair down and the Usos friggen laid him out with the chair he didn't use. That's BS right there as it is. As far as Roman goes, you tell me if that was sound booking strategy when a crowd that was FOR ONCE decently behind him, was booing him to shit by the end.
This is shit man, just plain shit.
No it isn't. They have been booking him as a tweener about to turn heel. Its utterly dumb to reverse course just because a small portion cheered him. That crowd was STILL 85% against Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 22:17:57 GMT -5
I thought that was really well done, honestly. Everybody's motivation made sense. AJ didn't want to use the chair but he got attacked from behind by the Usos with chair because the Usos are dickheads. AJ is pissed and lays the Usos out with the chair but Roman only sees his brothers getting taken out by this douche with the bald friends. He doesn't know that AJ actually spared him and didn't want to do more damage. Roman, who has been shown to have a temper, goes nuts and murks AJ. Roman's obviously not in the right but at the same time, I can somewhat sympathize with his actions because he was defending his family. Really strong angle, I thought. I'm more interested now than I was before this show. If AJ wasn't such a goober I'd agree but they've given no reason to think AJ actually belongs in a WWE ring so why worry about him being nice? Exactly. AJ is literally getting a free rematch simply because the McMahon's liked what he did even though he lost clean, didn't redemand a rematch and he and his crew got laid out tonight. Just, no. There's no need for that. The guy gave Reigns 21 finishers last night and he still lost the match. I don't rock with it.
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Post by wisdomwizard on May 2, 2016 22:19:03 GMT -5
I thought that was really well done, honestly. Everybody's motivation made sense. AJ didn't want to use the chair but he got attacked from behind by the Usos with chair because the Usos are dickheads. AJ is pissed and lays the Usos out with the chair but Roman only sees his brothers getting taken out by this douche with the bald friends. He doesn't know that AJ actually spared him and didn't want to do more damage. Roman, who has been shown to have a temper, goes nuts and murks AJ. Roman's obviously not in the right but at the same time, I can somewhat sympathize with his actions because he was defending his family. Really strong angle, I thought. I'm more interested now than I was before this show. If AJ wasn't such a goober I'd agree but they've given no reason to think AJ actually belongs in a WWE ring so why worry about him being nice? Yes they have, they've been putting him over on commentary and his interviews about how strong an impact he's made from his Royal Rumble appearance onward.
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Post by isink on May 2, 2016 22:19:45 GMT -5
Very disappointed with Gallows / Anderson. They seem out of step, maybe its the lack of a name [or JBL "The Club" ] .
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Post by Error on May 2, 2016 22:22:16 GMT -5
If AJ wasn't such a goober I'd agree but they've given no reason to think AJ actually belongs in a WWE ring so why worry about him being nice? Yes they have, they've been putting him over on commentary and his interviews about how strong an impact he's made from his Royal Rumble appearance onward. Yet he's lost every match of any importance (other than the 4way) and had every move kicked out of. Then got completely destroyed and exposed by Roman in less than 5 minutes at Payback with more than 8 finishers blown off because he's a goober that brings nothing. What they say and what they've done do not come close to matching up. AJ is Dean Ambrose but doesn't have the bad booking stink on him yet.
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on May 2, 2016 22:23:53 GMT -5
If AJ wasn't such a goober I'd agree but they've given no reason to think AJ actually belongs in a WWE ring so why worry about him being nice? Exactly. AJ is literally getting a free rematch simply because the McMahon's liked what he did even though he lost clean, didn't redemand a rematch and he and his crew got laid out tonight. Just, no. There's no need for that. The guy gave Reigns 21 finishers last night and he still lost the match. I don't rock with it. I think that sums up a reason why it's kind of hard to get in to a Roman Reigns match these days. When it comes to actually taking a clean pinfall, Roman might actually be stronger than Brock is. He's like The Incredible Hulk on steroids.
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Post by Widow's Peak on May 2, 2016 22:27:50 GMT -5
Well, Roman wasn't beaten down by the entire roster and subsequently fired, so it sucked. No seriously, they really need to pull the trigger on the Roman heel turn, because the tweener stuff is going to have a very short shelf life.
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Post by wisdomwizard on May 2, 2016 22:31:23 GMT -5
Yes they have, they've been putting him over on commentary and his interviews about how strong an impact he's made from his Royal Rumble appearance onward. Yet he's lost every match of any importance (other than the 4way) and had every move kicked out of. Then got completely destroyed and exposed by Roman in less than 5 minutes at Payback with more than 8 finishers blown off because he's a goober that brings nothing. What they say and what they've done do not come close to matching up. AJ is Dean Ambrose but doesn't have the bad booking stink on him yet. Roman is the Champ, the Champion no matter who it is is supposed to tough to beat. And as has already been pointed out on this board, he kicked out of moves that didn't pin anyone so it didn't make AJ look bad whatsoever. He had a tremendous match with Reigns and almost beat him if not for his foot on the ropes. They still have been constantly talked him up.
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Post by wisdomwizard on May 2, 2016 22:35:49 GMT -5
Well, Roman wasn't beaten down by the entire roster and subsequently fired, so it sucked. No seriously, they really need to pull the trigger on the Roman heel turn, because the tweener stuff is going to have a very short shelf life. Problem there is half the crowd will cheer Roman if he's a heel. Doing things this way can get him more heat from the crowd that can stay for a while when he goes full heel.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 22:42:29 GMT -5
Yes they have, they've been putting him over on commentary and his interviews about how strong an impact he's made from his Royal Rumble appearance onward. Yet he's lost every match of any importance (other than the 4way) and had every move kicked out of. Then got completely destroyed and exposed by Roman in less than 5 minutes at Payback with more than 8 finishers blown off because he's a goober that brings nothing. What they say and what they've done do not come close to matching up. AJ is Dean Ambrose but doesn't have the bad booking stink on him yet. The difference is that Ambrose actually wins major matches which AJ doesn't. He beat Harper in the feud, beat Owens in their feud and in all of their matches, beat Jericho who he'll likely beat when this thing's over with again. Also even though it's not televised, Ambrose beat Triple H 3 times overseas the other week. AJ is a different story because this guy's been losing everything and he looks like a joke. Even with AJ's dudes I had 0 faith in him closing the deal last night. Exactly. AJ is literally getting a free rematch simply because the McMahon's liked what he did even though he lost clean, didn't redemand a rematch and he and his crew got laid out tonight. Just, no. There's no need for that. The guy gave Reigns 21 finishers last night and he still lost the match. I don't rock with it. I think that sums up a reason why it's kind of hard to get in to a Roman Reigns match these days. When it comes to actually taking a clean pinfall, Roman might actually be stronger than Brock is. He's like The Incredible Hulk on steroids. I fear for everyone facing Reigns before Summerslam because honestly speaking no one has a chance unless they have a briefcase or unless they're Rollins fresh off a return or Cena.
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Post by hbkid718 on May 2, 2016 22:44:12 GMT -5
Here are the facts about Raw:
- Cesaro VS Kevin Owens was Cesaro’s 2nd opener in a row, Owens’ 1st opener since Raw on April 11, the 18th Disqualification of 2016, the 1st since Smackdown on April 14, & 1st on Raw since April 11, & their 2nd re-match - Goldust VS Tyler Breeze was Goldust’s 1st match on Raw in 2016 & 1st on Raw since losing to Alberto Del Rio on November 30, 2016, his 1st match overall since he & Fandango lost to The Vaudevillains on Smackdown on April 14, Breeze’s 1st match on Raw since losing to Apollo Crews on April 4, his 1st win since defeating Jack Swagger on Superstars on January 8, & 1st win on Raw since defeating R-Truth on November 16, 2015 - Colin Cassady & The New Day VS The Dudley Boyz & The Vaudevillains was the 13th 8-Man Tag Team Match of 2016 & 1st since Raw on April 18 - Becky Lynch VS Emma was Emma’s 1st win since defeating Paige on Smackdown on April 14 & 1st on Raw since defeating Paige on March 28 - The Battle Royal was the 4th Battle Royal of 2016, the 1st since the Andre the Giant Battle Royal at WrestleMania 32 on April 3, was Curtis Axel’s 1st Raw since he & Heath Slater lost to The Usos on April 11, Sin Cara’s 1st Raw since he & Kalisto lost to The Dudley Boyz on April 11, Bo Dallas’ 1st Raw since he & Axel lost to The Big Show & Kane on March 28, Titus O’Neil’s 1st Raw & match overall since losing to Adam Rose on February 8, Zack Ryder’s 1st Raw since losing to The Miz on April 4, Damien Sandow’s 1st Raw of 2016, 1st Raw since he wrestled Curtis Axel to a No Contest on May 11, 2015, Heath Slater’s 1st Raw since he lost to Apollo Crews on April 18, Viktor’s 1st Raw since he & Konnor lost to The Usos on February 22, Darren Young’s 1st Raw of 2016, 1st Raw since a 6-Man Tag Team Match on November 23, 2015, & 1st match overall since the Andre Battle Royal, & Apollo Crews’ 1st loss on the main roster, & 1st loss overall since losing to Samoa Joe on NXT on April 20 - Roman Reigns & The Usos VS Karl Anderson, Luke Gallows, & AJ Styles was the 17th 6-Man Tag Team Match of 2016, the 1st since Smackdown on April 28, the 1st on Raw since March 28, the 1st time since Raw on February 25 that there was an 8-Man & 6-Man Tag Match on the same show, Reigns’ 3rd TV main event in a row, Styles’ 1st main event since Smackdown on April 7, The Usos’ 1st main event since Raw on March 28, Anderson & Gallows’ 1st main event, & Styles was the 1st since Kevin Owens on April 11 & 18 to go from the Raw opener to the following week’s main event, & was Reigns’ 1st loss since losing to Bubba Ray Dudley by Disqualification on Smackdown on March 24
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