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Post by mauled on May 22, 2016 1:34:09 GMT -5
That whole "Hogan only wrestled once a month hence why he was a champion for a long time" crap people like to bring up. Most people usually say Bruno only wrestled once a month not Hogan, neither are correct. I will say the rumor with Hogan was he wouldn't appear on shows at all, he might not have wrestled every show but he was absolutely a part of it in some capacity. There's a bit of truth in it. Hogan after he "won" the belt at WM9 didn't appear on Raw or defend the belt once until King of the Ring. I think he did 1 taped Promo with Beefcake on a Beach but that was it. He didn't turn up live that was for sure and even as a child watching if it I thought it strange
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 22, 2016 2:05:07 GMT -5
People look good in clean loses, Related Anyone coming out better after a Cena feud. The ONLY time I've seen it work is Jeff Hardy in 2002 (OK, ladder match but yeah), but that was mostly because before that his singles career was ehhh.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 22, 2016 2:17:11 GMT -5
There was some money in him being a face. Don't know why they keep him as a face. Was never a fan of that Double turn he did with Dolph That ties to a similar myth: "Alberto Del Rio was a terrible face in WWE." He was good as a face when he was just doing it (his match against Big Show from Smackdown was very good in the role, and he played underdog better than Roman Reigns in similar spots for his Big Show match...one that was considered a **** and Big Show's best match, by the way). It's not Del Rio's fault that his big face storyline vs. Swagger and Colter was absolutely terrible and the worst build to a World Title match at Wrestlemania ever, complicated with Dolph Ziggler catching fire as MITB and someone people wanted to see cash in and win the title. Del Rio's babyface push died the second they did those vignettes where he claimed he was, "born in Mexico, made in America." It was less than three years after he debuted as a rich dude from Mexico that already had a fortune, a mansion, and all those fancy cars. Trying to claim he got all of that from working in America just killed any chance of being a huge babyface because most of the audience was watching when he came in and knew it just wasn't true.
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Post by dav on May 22, 2016 5:26:59 GMT -5
Bret Hart being the most over guy for the company in Europe in 1992. Granted, only Bret himself believes this myth, but felt it should be out there. Actually to be fair to Bret he's correct on that. He was well over outside the US. It's why the WWF always had him headlining those Tours even when he wasn't Champion. No, no he wasn't. In 1992, Davey Boy Smith was the most over act in the entire company in the company when touring Europe. Everyone else was a very distant second. Hell, at SummerSlam '92, I'd have ranked Warrior, Savage and the Road Warriors above Bret in terms of how much the crowd were into them.
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Post by Germansuplex on May 22, 2016 5:58:56 GMT -5
"Resthold Randy, LOL"
After his 2010 face turn, Orton didn't use more restholds than any other given wrestler.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 22, 2016 6:19:09 GMT -5
That Randy Orton was not over as a face in 2004. I must have made up his big pop at SSeries. It was the lame concussion angle at the Rumble that killed his heat. I have heard some people here say Angle was not over as a face in 2001, but that is so untrue that I can't even wrap my mind around it. Angle was over as f*** and *not* only after/because 9/11
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Post by mrtuesday on May 22, 2016 7:03:26 GMT -5
Contrary to popular belief, it was Vince McMahon who came up with the pirate gimmick for Paul Burchill.
Dave Laguna confirmed this on his old podcast back in 2011. Laguna hated the gimmick, though.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 22, 2016 7:24:55 GMT -5
That Japanese wrestlers are better than any other wrestlers or wrestling in Japan makes you a superior talent. Seen this way too many times online. Like everywhere else in the world, they have talent of different levels. The standouts would be standouts if they were from Canada or Guam. I seen people admit not watching any New Japan but all over that company's dick.
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Post by Sephiroth on May 22, 2016 7:36:16 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar doesn't hate wrestling. Actually he freaking loves it, but he couldn't handle a full time schedule. He was actually more miserable in UFC because he hated the kind of insane training he had to do to prepare for each fight.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 22, 2016 10:13:06 GMT -5
I never really found the "Randy Savage/teenage Steph" stories funny. it's unnerving how many spout that one as if it's true.
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 22, 2016 10:18:59 GMT -5
There is no orphanage in Mexico*. El Generico and Samu Zayn are the same person. Both are in fact Rami Sebei. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is jokingly kayfabing. But who want that when you can ruin a joke with a truth? No one. There is no orphanage. Please let this joke die. Remember boring truth is better than an entertaining joke.
*Obviously there are orphanages in Mexico. I am referring only to the fictional one referenced by the wrestler currently known as Sami Zayn.
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Post by gatordone on May 22, 2016 10:28:49 GMT -5
That whole "Hogan and Bruno only wrestled once a month hence why they were champion for a long time" crap people like to bring up. Shouldn't that be more like "Most people only saw Hogan and Bruno wrestle once a month, since they didn't wrestle twice every week on TV"? They wrestled in an era where guys were on the road 300 days a year. In the 70's and 80's the money was a the gate not in television as it is today like all sports. WWE only had Superstars as it's main show on Saturdays and only once did I actually see Hogan wrestle but only a handful of times did I also see big names like Savage and Andre too. It was mainly mid carders and the odd main eventer here and there. But Hogan and Bruno did wrestle a lot of house shows and Hogan pretty much appeared on every Saturday Nights Main Event.
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Post by MrElijah on May 22, 2016 10:39:02 GMT -5
Big Show was never good. Show has some pretty good skills on the mic, his 2006 ECW World Title run was fun and some of the stuff he used to do in WCW was amazing. And Jerishow was an awesome Tag Team.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 22, 2016 10:44:41 GMT -5
Big Show was never good. Show has some pretty good skills on the mic, his 2006 ECW World Title run was fun and some of the stuff he used to do in WCW was amazing. And Jerishow was an awesome Tag Team. As much as that is subjective, another one is that Show's constant turns mean he was never over. Which is also flat out untrue.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 22, 2016 11:00:37 GMT -5
I dunno if it's a myth but I think people tend to forget how good Miz's work work was as US champ and with MITB. Hell people were blown away by his backstage promo about proving everybody wrong (until MVP came out with the monkey throwing poo line)
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 22, 2016 11:04:01 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley clearly said 'bastard'.
I can only wonder why people insist he mispronounced it.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on May 22, 2016 11:06:54 GMT -5
a couple of minor ones -
Rico beating Ric Flair was not entirely clean, Flair was distracted kicking (I think) a jacket out of the ring
Maven was eliminated from the 2002 Royal Rumble, Undertaker does throw him over the top rope and I know the rules change from year to year since Taker was already eliminated but a lot of people don' seem to remember him going over the rope.
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Post by hargh on May 22, 2016 11:12:30 GMT -5
There were never two doinks. It was all a clever illusion that big dummy Crush fell for.
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Post by Sephiroth on May 22, 2016 11:23:26 GMT -5
Vince McMahon didn't "kill" WCW with his "ruthless aggression." WCW imploded from its own series of screw ups and Vince just picked up the remnants.
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Post by mauled on May 22, 2016 12:48:37 GMT -5
I never really found the "Randy Savage/teenage Steph" stories funny. it's unnerving how many spout that one as if it's true. Dave Meltzer was asked about it and he seems to think it's not a rumour. www.pwpix.net/the-randy-savage-and-stephanie-mcmahon-rumors/In March 2010, Meltzer was asked outright about the rumour on Wrestling Observer Radio.
“I think that the reason is the same reason that everyone says. It’s the reason everyone in (WWE) says. It’s the reason that is the only one that makes any sense. So I think that’s the reason. I can’t come up with any other reason. I don’t know. I mean, I’ve heard that reason from so many people that are not internet rumourmongers, I mean people who — all I know is that within the company as far as the top people, they all believe it, and nobody knows for sure, because it’s never brought up,” he said.
“When I first heard the story I didn’t believe it because I thought it was just some story, but then, and I mean even when people who are very high up in that company, after they left the company, would tell me that story I still didn’t believe it, but, you know, after a certain number of years when it’s just, you know, ideas are brought up for Randy Savage and the reaction — there’s something real, real bad because, let’s face it, I mean, I couldn’t count the number of times Vince said he would never do business with Hulk Hogan, and he always does. So, I don’t know . . . actually, as time goes by, more people talk about it trying to say that it didn’t happen.”
Btw in the UK the legal age is 16 (In some European countries it's even younger) and Steph would have been 17 at this time, so she wasn't a child.
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