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Post by Error on May 23, 2016 15:52:12 GMT -5
He has but HHH has been lobbying for it and is probably just as responsible as running it into the ground. HHH lobbied for Reigns to win The Rumble, lobbied to get beaten down at the end of TLC, lobbied to main event Wrestlemania, and put Reigns into the Shield when Punk suggested Hero. Also HHH just like Vince loves over drawn babyface title Reigns even if they are kind of bland and there is a more interesting opition.see Bo Dallas (he was a white meat babyface for a couple months before the heel turn despite the venom he was recieving), Neville, and Balor Have we got any actual proof of all that or is it all just hear-say? For months people were spouting "Cody is the one who wants to stick with Stardust" and that got completely disproved by the man himself. And the second part I definitely don't think is accurate. HHH is a huge NWA mark and a huge Harley Race/Ric Flair mark. He loves long reigns for heel champions, hence his own title reigns and the recent long runs of guys like Punk, Brock and Rollins. No it was not completely disproven, just misunderstood. He made it clear that he was sticking with Stardust after his dad's death because of what the Amell/Stardust stuff meant to his dad, he just did not want to stay in it long term.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on May 23, 2016 15:57:44 GMT -5
I never really found the "Randy Savage/teenage Steph" stories funny. it's unnerving how many spout that one as if it's true. Dave Meltzer was asked about it and he seems to think it's not a rumour. www.pwpix.net/the-randy-savage-and-stephanie-mcmahon-rumors/In March 2010, Meltzer was asked outright about the rumour on Wrestling Observer Radio.
“I think that the reason is the same reason that everyone says. It’s the reason everyone in (WWE) says. It’s the reason that is the only one that makes any sense. So I think that’s the reason. I can’t come up with any other reason. I don’t know. I mean, I’ve heard that reason from so many people that are not internet rumourmongers, I mean people who — all I know is that within the company as far as the top people, they all believe it, and nobody knows for sure, because it’s never brought up,” he said.
“When I first heard the story I didn’t believe it because I thought it was just some story, but then, and I mean even when people who are very high up in that company, after they left the company, would tell me that story I still didn’t believe it, but, you know, after a certain number of years when it’s just, you know, ideas are brought up for Randy Savage and the reaction — there’s something real, real bad because, let’s face it, I mean, I couldn’t count the number of times Vince said he would never do business with Hulk Hogan, and he always does. So, I don’t know . . . actually, as time goes by, more people talk about it trying to say that it didn’t happen.”
Btw in the UK the legal age is 16 (In some European countries it's even younger) and Steph would have been 17 at this time, so she wasn't a child. 1: That is such a full of shit answer from Da Meltz. I mean...people....you know....uhh....higher ups....they told me so....so I believe it...I guess...but I dunno...... 2: That being said, always remember that if you re-arrange the letters in STEPHANIE MCMAHON, it's spells THE MACHO MAN PENIS
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on May 23, 2016 16:45:37 GMT -5
Have we got any actual proof of all that or is it all just hear-say? For months people were spouting "Cody is the one who wants to stick with Stardust" and that got completely disproved by the man himself. And the second part I definitely don't think is accurate. HHH is a huge NWA mark and a huge Harley Race/Ric Flair mark. He loves long reigns for heel champions, hence his own title reigns and the recent long runs of guys like Punk, Brock and Rollins. No it was not completely disproven, just misunderstood. He made it clear that he was sticking with Stardust after his dad's death because of what the Amell/Stardust stuff meant to his dad, he just did not want to stay in it long term. Yes but that was twisted into "Cody wants to stay as Stardust" which was not true. Finishing a brief storyline and portraying a character for the foreseeable future are two different things.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 19:26:31 GMT -5
He has but HHH has been lobbying for it and is probably just as responsible as running it into the ground. HHH lobbied for Reigns to win The Rumble, lobbied to get beaten down at the end of TLC, lobbied to main event Wrestlemania, and put Reigns into the Shield when Punk suggested Hero. Also HHH just like Vince loves over drawn babyface title Reigns even if they are kind of bland and there is a more interesting opition.see Bo Dallas (he was a white meat babyface for a couple months before the heel turn despite the venom he was recieving), Neville, and Balor Have we got any actual proof of all that or is it all just hear-say? For months people were spouting "Cody is the one who wants to stick with Stardust" and that got completely disproved by the man himself. And the second part I definitely don't think is accurate. HHH is a huge NWA mark and a huge Harley Race/Ric Flair mark. He loves long reigns for heel champions, hence his own title reigns and the recent long runs of guys like Punk, Brock and Rollins. Basing it on reports from PWInsider and WON and whatever news bits I've seen here.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 23, 2016 19:46:48 GMT -5
There is no orphanage in Mexico*. El Generico and Samu Zayn are the same person. Both are in fact Rami Sebei. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is jokingly kayfabing. But who want that when you can ruin a joke with a truth? No one. There is no orphanage. Please let this joke die. Remember boring truth is better than an entertaining joke. *Obviously there are orphanages in Mexico. I am referring only to the fictional one referenced by the wrestler currently known as Sami Zayn. so El Generico and Sami Zayn's brother Samu are the same person? I can see how people would get confused and think Sami was Generico then.
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Post by -Lithium- on May 23, 2016 20:27:53 GMT -5
"Bischoff did everything he could do in 95 to make WCW more realistic while WWF was pure cartoon."
WCW was f***ing abysmally bad in 95 and there was nothing "adult" about it. It was shitty, stale Hogan and his shitty, mediocre friends doing cartoonish acts for 4/5ths of the show.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on May 23, 2016 20:34:13 GMT -5
I feel like there's a lot of WCW myths that could apply. Most of them propagated by WWE.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 23, 2016 22:06:37 GMT -5
"Reigns beat AJ with a single spear uggghhhh" After throwing him around. Putting him through two tables, spearing him on the floor, the Uso's beating him up. But you know JUST ONE SPEAR. Every dumbass video on WhatCulture today is saying this shit. The "one spear" complaints are because AJ didn't get to kick out of the spear while Roman got to kick out of the Styles Clash.
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Post by chrom on May 23, 2016 22:16:55 GMT -5
Austin was a nobody in WCW.
Absolutely not, if anything, he was being groomed and prepared as the next big star in WCW and probably would've been if Hogan hadn't shown up.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on May 23, 2016 22:23:37 GMT -5
"Bischoff did everything he could do in 95 to make WCW more realistic while WWF was pure cartoon." WCW was f***ing abysmally bad in 95 and there was nothing "adult" about it. It was shitty, stale Hogan and his shitty, mediocre friends doing cartoonish acts for 4/5ths of the show. Quoted for Truth. The Dungeon of Doom was more cartoony than anything Vince could have come up with on his best day.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 23, 2016 22:31:24 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley clearly said 'bastard'. I can only wonder why people insist he mispronounced it. Oh my god this one. www.youtube.com/watch?v=loIYBd1k3kUSeriously. I have an ACTUAL speech impedement so it pisses me off when people make fun of them. and seriously what the hell are people hearing with this one?
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Post by sunnytaker on May 24, 2016 11:06:22 GMT -5
Hogan lifted Andre over his head in front of 4 trillion people. very true- it was over 5 trillion
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Post by PTBartman on May 24, 2016 11:12:15 GMT -5
That the Giant MAchine was Andre. Everybody (except Bobby Heenan, obviously) knows that Andre was on suspension at that time so they couldn't have been the same person.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 24, 2016 11:15:47 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was NOT offered a job playing bass for Metallica, that's ridiculous.
It was to play for the reforming Beatles, brother!
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Post by MrElijah on May 24, 2016 11:33:41 GMT -5
Austin was a nobody in WCW. Absolutely not, if anything, he was being groomed and prepared as the next big star in WCW and probably would've been if Hogan hadn't shown up. Austin was a 2 time World TV Champ, 2 time US Champ and a Unified NWA/WCW World Tag champ. Hell Austin had one of the longest TV title runs. Austin was upper tier in WCW, it just all clicked in the WWF.
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Post by chrom on May 24, 2016 13:54:39 GMT -5
Austin was a nobody in WCW. Absolutely not, if anything, he was being groomed and prepared as the next big star in WCW and probably would've been if Hogan hadn't shown up. Austin was a 2 time World TV Champ, 2 time US Champ and a Unified NWA/WCW World Tag champ. Hell Austin had one of the longest TV title runs. Austin was upper tier in WCW, it just all clicked in the WWF. People forget thanks to his grudge with Bischoff and Revisionism just where he was at in WCW. Everyone from Ross to Ventura to Heenan put him over as someone who was a top star and future world champ and he was always in a program with top talent including Sting, Flair and Steamboat. You'd think he was a guy who only showed up once in a blue moon and lose in under a minute with the way they talk about his time there.
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Post by MrElijah on May 24, 2016 14:05:59 GMT -5
Austin was a 2 time World TV Champ, 2 time US Champ and a Unified NWA/WCW World Tag champ. Hell Austin had one of the longest TV title runs. Austin was upper tier in WCW, it just all clicked in the WWF. People forget thanks to his grudge with Bischoff and Revisionism just where he was at in WCW. Everyone from Ross to Ventura to Heenan put him over as someone who was a top star and future world champ and he was always in a program with top talent including Sting, Flair and Steamboat. You'd think he was a guy who only showed up once in a blue moon and lose in under a minute with the way they talk about his time there. Some of Austin's best matches were in WCW: w/Rude vs. Sting and Steamboat, War Games at WrestleWar '92, anytime he locked up with Steamboat, vs. Barry Windham 2 out of 3 falls.
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Post by mauled on May 24, 2016 15:29:52 GMT -5
Austin was a 2 time World TV Champ, 2 time US Champ and a Unified NWA/WCW World Tag champ. Hell Austin had one of the longest TV title runs. Austin was upper tier in WCW, it just all clicked in the WWF. People forget thanks to his grudge with Bischoff and Revisionism just where he was at in WCW. Everyone from Ross to Ventura to Heenan put him over as someone who was a top star and future world champ and he was always in a program with top talent including Sting, Flair and Steamboat. You'd think he was a guy who only showed up once in a blue moon and lose in under a minute with the way they talk about his time there. That may have been the case until 1994 but then things changed ... Brother
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 24, 2016 15:40:55 GMT -5
Being a main even talent and putting someone over clean doesn't automatically make you a "jobber"
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on May 24, 2016 20:29:24 GMT -5
People forget thanks to his grudge with Bischoff and Revisionism just where he was at in WCW. Everyone from Ross to Ventura to Heenan put him over as someone who was a top star and future world champ and he was always in a program with top talent including Sting, Flair and Steamboat. You'd think he was a guy who only showed up once in a blue moon and lose in under a minute with the way they talk about his time there. That may have been the case until 1994 but then things changed ... Brother Exactly. He spent the 2nd half of 1994 feuding and losing to Hacksaw jim duggan.
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