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Post by mauled on Jun 5, 2016 6:49:46 GMT -5
For those that don't know at Summerslam 1999 Triple H was due to go over Austin and win the belt. Plans were all set up for it then Austin said No. So Foley won it only to drop it the next night on Raw to Trips. While the Rock is back in the mid card with Billy Gunn ?!
Now Trips ( deservedly) gets roasted for his political games and the Reign of terror but Austin seems to get let off for this blatant politicking.
Although this sounds harsh but him taking time out for his neck injury actually worked out for the better for the company as the Rock became the Top guy and as big as Austin as one of the top draws off all time while Trips became the top Heel and won Wrestler of the year.
Yet even so they couldn't have know that the time so are fans hypocritical with giving Austin an easy ride on this ?
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jun 5, 2016 7:02:03 GMT -5
He's done worse than that without any comeback. Y'know, the whole "beat up his wife" thing.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Jun 5, 2016 7:02:43 GMT -5
Probably a combination of the Internet, whilst not exactly still being in its infancy, was not as prevalent as it was a few years later when Hunter was doing his reign of terror, along with their being a ton more casual fans watching who loved Austin and didn't care less about the goings on backstage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 7:08:18 GMT -5
There was a ton of heat on both Austin and the Rock in the late 90s online for not putting people over and taking up screentime.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 5, 2016 7:10:26 GMT -5
Because Triple H played those games far longer and stunted more careers than Austin, and let's not forget, Austin at his worst was the biggest drawing face in wrestling while Hunter was one of the biggest causes of a long period of stagnation because people didn't want to see him as the face of the company and his going over all comers caused many people just to turn off.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Jun 5, 2016 7:10:39 GMT -5
There was a ton of heat on both Austin and the Rock in the late 90s online for not putting people over and taking up screentime. That's ridiculous when it comes to the Rock - dude used to put everyone over.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 7:11:34 GMT -5
There was a ton of heat on both Austin and the Rock in the late 90s online for not putting people over and taking up screentime. That's ridiculous when it comes to the Rock - dude used to put everyone over. More the screentime than the putting people over part when it came to the Rock. Though some did complain about him not putting people over anyway.
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Post by kendrickisking on Jun 5, 2016 7:14:02 GMT -5
Except that's not what happened? Austin was going to drop the belt to HHH but the match was in Minnesota with Jesse Ventura as guest referee. Since Ventura was the Governor of Minnesota at the time,he didn't want to be seen raising the hand of a heel. So Foley won it only to drop it to HHH the next night. It was Ventura's demand , not Austin's.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Jun 5, 2016 7:14:13 GMT -5
That's ridiculous when it comes to the Rock - dude used to put everyone over. More the screentime than the putting people over part when it came to the Rock. Though some did complain about him not putting people over anyway. Fair enough, but even that is a stupid complaint really. He was drawing insane money and ratings, of course he was gonna get the most screen time.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 5, 2016 7:20:26 GMT -5
That's ridiculous when it comes to the Rock - dude used to put everyone over. More the screentime than the putting people over part when it came to the Rock. Though some did complain about him not putting people over anyway. For example, there were a lot of people who wanted Billy Gunn to go over the Rock that were pissed when he didn't and looked like a complete loser in their feud. Even more people were pissed when the Rock was feuding with Chris Benoit and how one sided that was going.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 5, 2016 7:22:37 GMT -5
Because Triple H played those games far longer and stunted more careers than Austin, and let's not forget, Austin at his worst was the biggest drawing face in wrestling while Hunter was one of the biggest causes of a long period of stagnation because people didn't want to see him as the face of the company and his going over all comers caused many people just to turn off. In 1999? That doesn't really make a lot of sense. If we're judging it by Austin being big at the time, holding Triple H responsible for stuff that wouldn't happen for years seems unfair.
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Post by mauled on Jun 5, 2016 7:40:08 GMT -5
Except that's not what happened? Austin was going to drop the belt to HHH but the match was in Minnesota with Jesse Ventura as guest referee. Since Ventura was the Governor of Minnesota at the time,he didn't want to be seen raising the hand of a heel. So Foley won it only to drop it to HHH the next night. It was Ventura's demand , not Austin's. Hasn't Austin himself semi confirmed that's what happened though ?
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Post by mauled on Jun 5, 2016 7:42:40 GMT -5
Because Triple H played those games far longer and stunted more careers than Austin, and let's not forget, Austin at his worst was the biggest drawing face in wrestling while Hunter was one of the biggest causes of a long period of stagnation because people didn't want to see him as the face of the company and his going over all comers caused many people just to turn off. In 1999? That doesn't really make a lot of sense. If we're judging it by Austin being big at the time, holding Triple H responsible for stuff that wouldn't happen for years seems unfair. Exactly you can't criticise a guy in 1999 for something he hasn't done yet. Hell even if you did, all it does is just makes BOTH backstage politicians. It doesn't make what Austin did justified.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jun 5, 2016 7:52:58 GMT -5
In 1999? That doesn't really make a lot of sense. If we're judging it by Austin being big at the time, holding Triple H responsible for stuff that wouldn't happen for years seems unfair. Exactly you can't criticise a guy in 1999 for something he hasn't done yet. Hell even if you did, all it does is just makes BOTH backstage politicians. It doesn't make what Austin did justified. I think he's more addressing why H gets so much shit for doing this while this is more or less glossed over by people.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 5, 2016 8:01:25 GMT -5
Because Triple H played those games far longer and stunted more careers than Austin, and let's not forget, Austin at his worst was the biggest drawing face in wrestling while Hunter was one of the biggest causes of a long period of stagnation because people didn't want to see him as the face of the company and his going over all comers caused many people just to turn off. In 1999? That doesn't really make a lot of sense. If we're judging it by Austin being big at the time, holding Triple H responsible for stuff that wouldn't happen for years seems unfair. We're not judging them only based that period of time though, the question was why Austin gets a pass for an incident (that may not even have happened) in 1999 while Triple H gets nothing but scorn for the reign of terror. We're not talking reactions at the time, the question is about opinions of both men in the present day.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jun 5, 2016 8:20:56 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Austin ever went over HHH after Summerslam 1999?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 5, 2016 8:25:37 GMT -5
because it mostly only affected Jeff Jarrett and nobody cares.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 5, 2016 8:29:37 GMT -5
It's true.
I didn't see any fans on Twitter or Facebook back then complaining.
Hypocrites!
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Post by xCompackx on Jun 5, 2016 8:35:25 GMT -5
I'm not really sure you can directly criticize someone for "playing politics" in a company where one guy is responsible for who gets pushed and who doesn't.
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Post by The Ichi on Jun 5, 2016 8:36:03 GMT -5
It was Ventura who didn't want HHH to win, not Austin.
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