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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 5:46:04 GMT -5
Personally, I think it's at least big of Reigns to accept full responsibility right away like that - makes him better than the Rey Mysterios and Booker Ts of the world at least - and I don't think it should kill the idea of him as a main eventer by any means. I do think it should cause them to back off and stop treating him like the golden boy (well, should've already stopped that, but it's an extra reason), because it just plain shows he is not as reliable as Cena is and reliability is really the only thing he's had going for him as a reason to be THE GUY, but he's good enough and established enough he should still be heavily prominent in some capacity.
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Post by benstudd on Jun 22, 2016 6:18:28 GMT -5
Know who's gonna replace him in the Triple Threat? Triple H of course. Then you do Rollins vs HHH at Summerslam for the right of the Pedigree.  |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 22, 2016 6:21:25 GMT -5
He was their golden boy. Now he's been demoted to tin.
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Post by benstudd on Jun 22, 2016 6:36:43 GMT -5
Still amused that performance enhancers are something to actually care about in an acting profession. If it's safe and helps you recover, who the hell cares? But hey, spectre of the 80s. Cause when you take too much you end up years later dying cause of an enlarged heart like Eddie and Macho, that's why. |
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Post by canal on Jun 22, 2016 6:36:54 GMT -5
Potentially to hype the big match only to have outside circumstances delay it. An attempt to use it to their advantage, get people excited, then make them wait. But a better way to have a frustrated Rollins who beat Reigns the night before beat the shit out of Reigns after the announcement it's a triple threat "injuring" him. Now they really got nothing to work with saying oh yeah he failed wellness. It gives the anti Reigns crowd more fuel in the fire in which a massive a "Wellness" chant will occur and he'll lose some of his fans in the kids that their guy fails wellness. Hell imagine if Hogan or Cena failed wellness and they acknowledge it on TV. I can't even think of a way they could have Rollins injure Reigns. If he still had the curb stomp, it'd be a wrap. But as it is, based on how STRONG Roman must be, and how restrictive and uncreative WWE is as far as violence goes, all I can imagine is an unconvincing chair beatdown or something. If they do it next week, fans are just gonna chant "bullshit" etc. I wouldn't be shocked to hear "Ste-roids" chants like there used to be at major league baseball games to certain outfielders, even if that's not what it is. They might just want to admit it's a drug suspension and have him give the sincere apology that people always want when athletes get popped. |
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jun 22, 2016 6:42:47 GMT -5
It's probably a case of Roman using some kind of supplement that contains something banned under the wellness policy. In 2016, I doubt he was using something obvious. The dude is on the road (and performing) as much as anybody and had that pretty serious health issue awhile back, so it's not as though he didn't have all the reason in the world to be using stuff that may have raised a flag or two without his knowledge.
He owned up to it. He's being punished for it. He'll be back.
I've never had anything against the Guy. Or at least, none of my issues with him were on the performer himself. He's fine in the ring, has a good look, and nearly every time he gets to be himself, he comes off like a really good dude. He just suffered from "more oblivious than Cena" booking.
What I do wonder, though, is if WWE would have put the belt on Ambrose if this hadn't happened. MitB was a rare case of the company looking like it was correcting course based widespread disapproval of their current product. If it *really* was just that they knew Roman had to go away for a bit and "Ambrose winning the title via cash in" was their knee-jerk reaction (maybe because Seth's eventual win was penciled in for a later event) then it's just business as usual.
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Post by benstudd on Jun 22, 2016 6:54:33 GMT -5
Alvarez said they knew on Friday that he had failed a test and booked Battleground anyway. He'll be back in 30 days to take back what's his -- HOOOOAHHHHH. What a horrible punishment! |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 22, 2016 7:08:50 GMT -5
Still amused that performance enhancers are something to actually care about in an acting profession. If it's safe and helps you recover, who the hell cares? But hey, spectre of the 80s. This isn't about steroids being used to help heal from injuries though, if they're prescribed to help recover from injuries by legitimate doctors (As in, not bought from shady online pharmacies), they're given a pass under the therapeutic use exemptions in the wellness program. This is about steroids being used without prescription to maintain a certain physique that will give them an edge over clean talent as they have that superstar look, substances where the long term effect on the user's health are either known to be detrimental or are completely unknown. Wrestling being a worked sport doesn't make these things healthier, ask Superstar Billy Graham and Dynamite Kid about the wonders these chemicals, combined with the bumps from the worked sport, did to their bodies. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 22, 2016 7:21:51 GMT -5
Cole: "Ladies and gentlemen, the WWE Universe may have heard that Roman Reigns has been suspended from WWE. I gotta say there's no lengths that the Authority won't go to in order to prevent Roman regaining the WWE World Heavyweight Championship"
JBL: "WAH WAH WAH BLACK HELICUPPAS MAGGLE!!!!"
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 22, 2016 7:30:45 GMT -5
Alvarez said they knew on Friday that he had failed a test and booked Battleground anyway. He'll be back in 30 days to take back what's his -- HOOOOAHHHHH. What a horrible punishment! Hey, I wouldn't want them taking my hooha for 30 days. |
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Post by abjordans on Jun 22, 2016 7:55:07 GMT -5
If it was just a banned supplement, he forgot paperwork, didn't pay his health insurance, something like that, wouldn't WWE leak it? This has gotten oretty big national coverage. Why would they let a guy they have invested millions into be thought of as a drug user if it was something simple like that? I hate to sound like an accuser, but if average joe sees this, they think drugs or steroids. Wouldn't they leak something to start to clean that up?
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Jun 22, 2016 7:59:47 GMT -5
"But I thought they said those pills were supposed to make me look really, really strong!"
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Post by segaz on Jun 22, 2016 8:00:55 GMT -5
What exactly did Reddit guy say? He said he heard a rumor that Reigns would be dropping the title at MITB because he failed Wellness. Said he wouldn't give a source, just something he was told by someone in the know, and to take it for what it's worth. He was then RIPPED to shreds for posting something like that with no source. Now, everyone is going back in the original thread and apologizing to him. Link please? |
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Post by lookout on Jun 22, 2016 8:07:36 GMT -5
It's probably a case of Roman using some kind of supplement that contains something banned under the wellness policy. In 2016, I doubt he was using something obvious. The dude is on the road (and performing) as much as anybody and had that pretty serious health issue awhile back, so it's not as though he didn't have all the reason in the world to be using stuff that may have raised a flag or two without his knowledge. He owned up to it. He's being punished for it. He'll be back. I've never had anything against the Guy. Or at least, none of my issues with him were on the performer himself. He's fine in the ring, has a good look, and nearly every time he gets to be himself, he comes off like a really good dude. He just suffered from "more oblivious than Cena" booking. What I do wonder, though, is if WWE would have put the belt on Ambrose if this hadn't happened. MitB was a rare case of the company looking like it was correcting course based widespread disapproval of their current product. If it *really* was just that they knew Roman had to go away for a bit and "Ambrose winning the title via cash in" was their knee-jerk reaction (maybe because Seth's eventual win was penciled in for a later event) then it's just business as usual. I think the idea that he "mistakenly" took something wrong is overly optimistic...especially after listening to meltzer's show. Apparently it's fairly easy to pass the test and the fact he didn't is bizarre. Plus quite a few people, including them, have mentioned that they noticed that roman has looked bigger or different over the last couple of months before this story even broke. Of course that is just their opinion and might not necessarily be true but combined with the first tidbit, it seems likely he probably was aware of what he was doing. Of course all of this is just pure speculation but considering his high profile, I imagine we are likely to get the truth eventually. I would expect it's going to come from him if that's the case. I doubt they would have had him drop it so soon without this violation..especially knowing how hell bent they were to have him on top. What is going to really be interesting is what they do with him when he comes back. If they give the title right back to him, wow that is one terrible message to send. He's already going to catch monster heat from the fans when he comes back...can't imagine what it would be if they just gave the title back to him. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 22, 2016 8:12:12 GMT -5
If WWE simply puts the belt back on Reigns at Battleground then they have truly lost their minds. Especially any scenario involving him remaining a babyface champion. Please tell me WWE's idea isn't Reigns/Lesnar at SS for the title.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 8:15:07 GMT -5
Ambrose must feel awkward at the moment, he has a chance to cement his place in the main event but due to a good friends mistake that could cost him a lot. No, Roman isn't going to be on superstars jobbing to Victor anytime soon but remember Orton was supposed to the 'the guy' but it turned out Cena was more reliable so Orton ended up having a great career but missed out on Hogan/Rock/Austin/Cena top guy status. Then again with Ambrose having a fondness for the sauce and Rollins having poor taste in dating partners maybe the next 'the guy' will come from outside of the Shield.
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Post by kevin on Jun 22, 2016 8:29:56 GMT -5
Ambrose must feel awkward at the moment, he has a chance to cement his place in the main event but due to a good friends mistake that could cost him a lot. No, Roman isn't going to be on superstars jobbing to Victor anytime soon but remember Orton was supposed to the 'the guy' but it turned out Cena was more reliable so Orton ended up having a great career but missed out on Hogan/Rock/Austin/Cena top guy status. Then again with Ambrose having a fondness for the sauce and Rollins having poor taste in dating partners maybe the next 'the guy' will come from outside of the Shield. I don't know they seem rally sold on Rollins. Rollins has actually gotten the push Reigns has always been accused of getting and got it long before Reigns did. Rollins feels like the main guy for the next 5 years or so. |
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Post by sunnytaker on Jun 22, 2016 9:58:55 GMT -5
This isn't a good wellness failure. This isn't a bad wellness failure. This is THE wellness failure. along these lines i'm not a good guy i'm not a bad guy i'm THE SUSPENDED guy. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jun 22, 2016 10:13:31 GMT -5
I guess the Big Dog is chained to the porch for a while...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 10:34:09 GMT -5
But a better way to have a frustrated Rollins who beat Reigns the night before beat the shit out of Reigns after the announcement it's a triple threat "injuring" him. Now they really got nothing to work with saying oh yeah he failed wellness. It gives the anti Reigns crowd more fuel in the fire in which a massive a "Wellness" chant will occur and he'll lose some of his fans in the kids that their guy fails wellness. Hell imagine if Hogan or Cena failed wellness and they acknowledge it on TV. I can't even think of a way they could have Rollins injure Reigns. If he still had the curb stomp, it'd be a wrap. But as it is, based on how STRONG Roman must be, and how restrictive and uncreative WWE is as far as violence goes, all I can imagine is an unconvincing chair beatdown or something. If they do it next week, fans are just gonna chant "bullshit" etc. I wouldn't be shocked to hear "Ste-roids" chants like there used to be at major league baseball games to certain outfielders, even if that's not what it is. They might just want to admit it's a drug suspension and have him give the sincere apology that people always want when athletes get popped. Just have Rollins target Reigns shoulder/knee/ankle with a chair like they usually do when they write someone off due to injury or wellness. The only way I can see a sincere apology working for is a beloved babyface or Cena. It won't work with Reigns. Instead all they can do is quietly announce it off screen that Reigns isn't here due to recent events in the most awkward way possible |
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