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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jun 23, 2016 1:52:11 GMT -5
Is this just a tradition now? I understand in some cities where there has been strife (teams threatening to leave, the league not being fair to the team/city), but what has Adam Silver done to Golden State in order to get booed?
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Post by sfvega on Jun 23, 2016 2:11:19 GMT -5
GS booed because they were beat and butthurt. Silver is a pretty good commish, all things considered. Curry's wife whining on Twitter didn't help things.
Bettman and Goodell deserve a strong chorus of boos any time they're put in anything resembling a spotlight. It is the only resembling real justice at the top.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jun 23, 2016 4:03:08 GMT -5
GS booed because they were beat and butthurt. Silver is a pretty good commish, all things considered. Curry's wife whining on Twitter didn't help things. Bettman and Goodell deserve a strong chorus of boos any time they're put in anything resembling a spotlight. It is the only resembling real justice at the top. Yeah that's what I figured with the GS thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 4:27:44 GMT -5
Gary Bettman absolutely deserves boo's as long as he is commissioner. And yes I'm aware he has done some great things like actually having the balls to lockout an entire season until he gets a salary cap rather then a no salary cap league that would of destroyed the NHL. But he has done way more harm then good as a commissioner.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 23, 2016 9:37:40 GMT -5
In an era where commissioners are no longer appointed to serve "the best interests of the league" but rather are simply propped up by the owners as their sock puppets, I have no qualms with them getting booed.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 23, 2016 9:58:08 GMT -5
He actually had a Hitler mustache painted on in a special ink that cameras could not pick up, but the viewing audience could see.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 23, 2016 10:41:54 GMT -5
I don't think Silver would've gotten booed at Cleveland but then I think he's the only commissioner who doesn't deserve to get booed. Goodell and Bettman absolutely do and Manfred deserves apathy.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 23, 2016 11:26:46 GMT -5
The best part of the NFL draft is watching old Roger walk up to the podium with a big smile as the fans boo the shit out of him.
Just once I want him to cut a heel promo "Every year you boo me, but every year I have millions of reasons to keep smiling! Just so you know, I appreciate the boos from the wage slaves in the audience. I, personally, made 10% off each and every one of these tickets you worked weeks of your miserable lives to purchase!" The local fans start chanting for their team, ex The Jets. "Ah yes, the Jets. You know, The Las Vegas Jets just rolls of the tongue better. I think we should look into that possibility."
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Post by Toxik916 on Jun 23, 2016 12:42:15 GMT -5
All i know is Adam Silver/David Stern never gets booed in Sacramento. If it wasn't for both if them the Kings wouldn't be here anymore.
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Post by Crimson on Jun 23, 2016 14:35:36 GMT -5
but what has Adam Silver done to Golden State in order to get booed? He left Curry hanging during his MVP acceptance. But seriously, there was quite a few people upset over the League suspending Draymond for Game 5. Given how the momentum of the series shifted, I saw it as fans being salty over them losing.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 23, 2016 19:36:41 GMT -5
I don't think Silver would've gotten booed at Cleveland but then I think he's the only commissioner who doesn't deserve to get booed. Goodell and Bettman absolutely do and Manfred deserves apathy. Goodell deserves friggin' rotten eggs and tomatoes.
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Post by corndog on Jun 24, 2016 11:17:05 GMT -5
I don't think Silver would've gotten booed at Cleveland but then I think he's the only commissioner who doesn't deserve to get booed. Goodell and Bettman absolutely do and Manfred deserves apathy. I think Manfred has been a very good commissioner. Some old school guys don't like the idea of removing the takeout slide and the catchers being able to block the plate, but it is good for the safety of the players. Also, they did remove the neighborhood play, so that evens out the takeout slide at 2nd. Steroid testing is no B.S. now, and doesn't have the giant loopholes it had under Selig, who shouldn't have even survived after the steroid era. Most of all, he created reviews/challenges for baseball, FINALLY. Which I thought would slow the game down, but their system is the fastest out of all the major sports and actually being copied by other leagues because it is so much better. Really, he is doing more for his sport than any of the other commissioners. As far as the other commissioners, I think Silver is doing a solid job. But the NBA does need some work, especially with diving. Goodell and Bettman are garbage. I especially hate Goodell and he would probably be removed if it wasn't for the massive success of the NFL right now, which has absolutely nothing to do with him.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 24, 2016 12:09:14 GMT -5
You have to keep in mind that as far as the drug testing goes, that's much more on the MLBPA saying "We've finally gotten tired of it, too. More serious consequences are fine with us now." I'm sure Selig wanted to get tougher there once Congress got on his ass about it, but he couldn't do anything without the MLBPA agreeing to play ball.
There have been some unintended consequences for some of the rule changes that have been introduced, like creating new rules on safe/out during these things that require a LOT of entirely subjective human judgment on the part of the umps, and they have enough to worry about as the MLB already has as much an arcane rulebook as the NFL does, if not moreso.
But yeah, Manfred is thus far an improvement over Selig, just that I don't think he's done things to be outright cheered for like Silver has. Though if he wants to do away with the absolutely silly "ASG winner = home field advantage in the World Series" stipulation that is absolutely cheer-worthy.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jun 24, 2016 21:41:07 GMT -5
We booed the former Commissioner if the IFL because he was a sleezeball. He, in turn, proved us right, resigning halfway through the 2012 season to become owner of the then Allen Wranglers when TO played for them.
Then, after the 2014 season, when he was inducted into the initial IFL Hall of Fame class, he took his team and moved to a different league.
Also, and this is the most important factor, he's an asshole.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jun 24, 2016 21:45:04 GMT -5
Silver has done a bang up job. I respected him after the whole LA Clippers situation.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jun 24, 2016 21:49:26 GMT -5
Is this just a tradition now? I understand in some cities where there has been strife (teams threatening to leave, the league not being fair to the team/city), but what has Adam Silver done to Golden State in order to get booed? Suspending Draymond Green arguably cost us the championship (of course, Bogut's injury played a role too). LeBron was able to go wild with nobody to defend him, and allowed Cleveland to get back into the series.
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Post by corndog on Jun 24, 2016 23:27:03 GMT -5
You have to keep in mind that as far as the drug testing goes, that's much more on the MLBPA saying "We've finally gotten tired of it, too. More serious consequences are fine with us now." I'm sure Selig wanted to get tougher there once Congress got on his ass about it, but he couldn't do anything without the MLBPA agreeing to play ball. There have been some unintended consequences for some of the rule changes that have been introduced, like creating new rules on safe/out during these things that require a LOT of entirely subjective human judgment on the part of the umps, and they have enough to worry about as the MLB already has as much an arcane rulebook as the NFL does, if not moreso. But yeah, Manfred is thus far an improvement over Selig, just that I don't think he's done things to be outright cheered for like Silver has. Though if he wants to do away with the absolutely silly "ASG winner = home field advantage in the World Series" stipulation that is absolutely cheer-worthy. I really hope he changes the ASG winner getting home field advantage. If he does that I don't care if he does absolutely nothing, he will be loved. Also, I hate the DH rule in the AL, either eliminate it or make it league wide.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 24, 2016 23:39:55 GMT -5
The thing with the ASG is that we're in an era of baseball where we not only see interleague play on a regular basis, but cable, video streams, and other media packages allow us to watch a ton of baseball from outside the market. It diminishes what previously made the ASG so special back in the day: being able to see these superstars of the Majors face off against each other when the only other time that could happen is, maybe, the World Series if both teams got far enough.
So all these advances in techology and the American and National Leagues, outside of the DH, basically becoming the National and American Conferences and their teams playing each other in the regular season really killed the appeal of the All Star Game. The "winning league gets home field advantage in the World Series" gimmick was a terrible idea and it hasn't affected ratings at all. I'd say follow the NHL's example and make it a pick 'em roster between two team captains and they just go have fun.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 25, 2016 0:33:52 GMT -5
You have to keep in mind that as far as the drug testing goes, that's much more on the MLBPA saying "We've finally gotten tired of it, too. More serious consequences are fine with us now." I'm sure Selig wanted to get tougher there once Congress got on his ass about it, but he couldn't do anything without the MLBPA agreeing to play ball. There have been some unintended consequences for some of the rule changes that have been introduced, like creating new rules on safe/out during these things that require a LOT of entirely subjective human judgment on the part of the umps, and they have enough to worry about as the MLB already has as much an arcane rulebook as the NFL does, if not moreso. But yeah, Manfred is thus far an improvement over Selig, just that I don't think he's done things to be outright cheered for like Silver has. Though if he wants to do away with the absolutely silly "ASG winner = home field advantage in the World Series" stipulation that is absolutely cheer-worthy. I really hope he changes the ASG winner getting home field advantage. If he does that I don't care if he does absolutely nothing, he will be loved. Also, I hate the DH rule in the AL, either eliminate it or make it league wide. The sad thing is that they're much closer to making it league-wide than they are to eliminating the DH. Being in Cardinals country, I love the strategy and nuance of having the no DH. I know that the pitcher batting is always a sure out with a few exceptions. But not every part of the game has to be changed for entertainment value.
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Post by corndog on Jun 25, 2016 0:37:32 GMT -5
I really hope he changes the ASG winner getting home field advantage. If he does that I don't care if he does absolutely nothing, he will be loved. Also, I hate the DH rule in the AL, either eliminate it or make it league wide. The sad thing is that they're much closer to making it league-wide than they are to eliminating the DH. Being in Cardinals country, I love the strategy and nuance of having the no DH. I know that the pitcher batting is always a sure out with a few exceptions. But not every part of the game has to be changed for entertainment value. I agree, love the strategy involved with not having a DH. Also, I do think it's more likely the DH rule goes league-wide unfortunately.
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