Professor Chaos
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bringer of Destruction and Maker of Doom
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jun 25, 2016 22:28:55 GMT -5
I only started watching 2003 Smackdown's on WWE Network for the first time because of this thread. This stuff is great. Thank You.
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mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
You're the lowest on the totem pole here, Alva. The lowest.
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Post by mizerable on Jun 25, 2016 22:58:10 GMT -5
I went to school with such a mark, that he swore up and down that Hulk Hogan was NOT Mr. America. He said that Hulk Hogan wouldn't ever lie. This was high school btw..
I think we graduated before the reveal was made since I always wondered how crushed that guy was that Hulk did indeed lie.
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Jiren
Patti Mayonnaise
Hearts Bayformers
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Post by Jiren on Jun 25, 2016 23:18:58 GMT -5
honestly I thought it was HBK
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Post by sonofblaine on Jun 25, 2016 23:21:15 GMT -5
I liked it. I like my wrestling ridiculous, but it was done well enough to not be too stupid.
Mr. America should come back, but since Hogan can't wrestle anymore, when there's a match, it's someone else obviously different in the costume. Make it a midcard story at most. Mr. America (Hogan) cutting a promo with Renee, then for the match, Xavior Woods in costume comes out.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jun 25, 2016 23:23:15 GMT -5
In retrospect, silly and goofy, just like wrestling should be every now and then. And dammit, I love that lie detector skit. Vince was so good at being over-the-top and selling it when his character was being made the butt of a joke.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jun 25, 2016 23:30:06 GMT -5
I really wish they'd do an angle like this today. I think a guy like Sami Zayn could pull it off well.
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Nikki Heyman
Fry's dog Seymour
EXTREEEEEME Pony Manager
✬ Believe In The Fight ✬
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Jun 25, 2016 23:34:56 GMT -5
I really wish they'd do an angle like this today. I think a guy like Sami Zayn could pull it off well. nah, too Generic(o)
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jun 26, 2016 4:52:50 GMT -5
I loved it.
When they announced "Mr America was coming" a friend and I joked about how funny it would be if it was obviously Hogan. Like, if you could see the stach through the mask and he used Real American.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 26, 2016 6:00:45 GMT -5
The character, idea and much of the storyline was a lot of fun. But I'm a fun hating smark so I spent most of the time wondering about WWE's hiring process, how did Mr America ever get employed? They actually explained this. Bischoff and Stephanie were in a huge rivalry as Raw and Smackdown GMs, and as the vignettes aired (likely at Hogan's expense), each of them scrambled to make the crucial signing before the other. As a result, Hulk Hogan was able to sneak back into the promotion as Stephanie was so desperate to sign Mr. America that she did so without actually meeting the guy face to face.
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Emmet Russell
King Koopa
Quieter
The best wrestler on earth.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Jun 26, 2016 6:17:04 GMT -5
honestly I thought it was HBK
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Juice
El Dandy
Wrong? Oh he can tell ya about being wrong.
I'm the one who raised you from perdition.
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Post by Juice on Jun 26, 2016 7:24:18 GMT -5
I was disappointed at first that it wasn't a new performer but when it turned into what it was, it was great
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 26, 2016 7:31:12 GMT -5
I will forever argue that the segment with Mr America (who is totally not Hulk Hogan) and Vince with the lie detector was a top ten moment in WWE History. I am not a pervert! *BZZT* I am? *Ding*
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 26, 2016 7:35:30 GMT -5
didn't WWE Get in trouble with Marvel because Marvel felt the character was too similar to Captain America? Kinda. They never really did solve the problem back in the 80s of him being "Hulk" Hogan, so that kept them on a sour note. Marvel stopped complaining as much after he switched the mask to a flag, instead of literally the exact same mask Cap wears. I don't think a lawsuit would hav held up, but WWE wasn't exactly looking to waste money on their lawyers at the time.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 26, 2016 7:50:45 GMT -5
What did I learn today after searching WWE lawsuit on Google? Warner Brothers was suing to stop Roman Reigns from using the "Superman Punch". That lawyer was so damn happy and looking forward to their first fight with the WWE.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 26, 2016 8:22:09 GMT -5
I went to school with such a mark, that he swore up and down that Hulk Hogan was NOT Mr. America. He said that Hulk Hogan wouldn't ever lie. This was high school btw.. I think we graduated before the reveal was made since I always wondered how crushed that guy was that Hulk did indeed lie. That reminds me of a conversation I had with a then co-worker around the time Austin got 'hit by a car'. Me and this dude were both COLLEGE age. He brought up Austin getting hit, and I said something to the effect of "yeah, that was a clever way to write him out." The guy looked at me funny, and said something like: "a car HIT him!" Now it was my turn to look at him funny, as I waited for him to go: "I'm just f***in with ya!" But that never came. I wonder what happened to that dude.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 26, 2016 8:28:07 GMT -5
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AFN: Judge Shred
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wanted to change his doohicky.
Member of The Bluetista Buyers Club
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jun 26, 2016 9:30:11 GMT -5
The real question here, and I am shocked no FAN member has brought this up, how big was Mr. America's penis, was it the same size as Hulk Hogan? Terry Bollea? Or was it his own, unique size?
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Magnus the Magnificent
King Koopa
didn't want one.
I could write a book about what you don't know!
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jun 26, 2016 9:47:53 GMT -5
Love the obvious man under the mask storylines (as long as you don't get 3 going on at once.) WOAH WOAH WOAH! HOLD UP! Hogan was not Mr. America. He said so himself. "I'm not Hulk Hogan brother!" Would Mr. America lie to his fans? BALLGAME MAGGLE! There was a picture of Mr. America takin the mask off and it was Hogan. So you are wrong, sir. Obvious Photoshoppery. I mean, come on...
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agent817
Fry's dog Seymour
Doesn't Know Whose Ring It Is
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Post by agent817 on Jun 26, 2016 10:11:20 GMT -5
I just realized that he had two masks. This one was used for the majority of his run: I don't think this was one was used much:
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Evil Homer
Hank Scorpio
I am Evil Homer, I am Evil Homer.
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Post by Evil Homer on Jun 26, 2016 13:35:38 GMT -5
I thought it was funny myself, especially the episode with the lie detector and him passing it somehow,ha. I did get to go Mr.America's last match at MSG in June of 2003 teaming with Brock and Kurt vs. Show/Shelton/Haas on Smackdown which was cool and during SD's prime years. I was at the show also , my first ever WWE event . I have this vague memory of him body slamming Big Show after the show was over - did that happen ?
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