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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 10, 2022 9:06:42 GMT -5
There were certainly things I was hoping for we didn't get - the next mainline Fire Emblem and Mario Party DLC offhand - but still on the whole would call it a very good one. Highlight for me was probably Three Hopes but there was a lot to love about it between that, the Mario Kart DLC, Xenoblade, Earthbound, and probably some things I'm forgetting.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2022 9:08:14 GMT -5
You know, with Live A Live, it makes me wonder if they'll tackle some other formerly Japan exclusive titles like Bahamut Lagoon or the like. Guessing that'll come down to how well stuff like this does, but given the enormous amount of games Square Enix can leverage for that type of thing, it wouldn't be a bad idea. Also, not here, but elsewhere, I saw a few people call this Nintendo Direct a dud or say they announced stuff "no one cares about". No one is obligated to love or even like all of these, or even any of these, but it's just silly to me. Things no one would care about: -Two more games for the membership. -DLC for the top selling game on the entire console, and therefore one of the top-selling games in years period, DLC you get as a bonus for the premium membership. 25 bucks otherwise, so about 50 cents a track, which is kind of bonkers and more than reasonable. -A sequel to one of the best selling games of all time in Wii Sports. -A bunch of other stuff. Oh yeah, no one cares about any of those things, totally. Most of the people I know acting like that fell into the trap of "omfg they are going to announce release dates for BOTW2/New MarioKart Game/*insert random moonshot dream here*" They created their own disappointment by manufacturing all these dream scenarios that didn't play out. It would be like watching the Superbowl this year and getting mad because there was no commercials for the Next Star Wars Trilogy and expecting people to rise up around you and get angry. It is silly given they literally said before this that it would focus on games coming out in the first half of 2022, and they even showed us some stuff that comes out later, so, that's kind of on them for not paying attention. Would I have been down to see BOTW2 or some more of Bayonetta 3, etc? Sure, certainly, but I went in knowing neither was likely.
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Post by Fundertaker on Feb 10, 2022 10:22:51 GMT -5
Most of the people I know acting like that fell into the trap of "omfg they are going to announce release dates for BOTW2/New MarioKart Game/*insert random moonshot dream here*" They created their own disappointment by manufacturing all these dream scenarios that didn't play out. It would be like watching the Superbowl this year and getting mad because there was no commercials for the Next Star Wars Trilogy and expecting people to rise up around you and get angry. It is silly given they literally said before this that it would focus on games coming out in the first half of 2022, and they even showed us some stuff that comes out later, so, that's kind of on them for not paying attention. Would I have been down to see BOTW2 or some more of Bayonetta 3, etc? Sure, certainly, but I went in knowing neither was likely. And that's the thing. We have, hopefully, the E3 presentation in about 4 months. And they are going to show BOTW2, Bayo3, more Splatoon 3, more XC3 (weird how many 3s are in here. Perhaps Portal is coming to the Switch because Valve is learning how to count from Nintendo?), perhaps finally show Metroid Prime 4 in some way, usually there's a surprise or two in there like a new mainline Mario game + 3rd party stuff that we can't even imagine... it's like... the bar is so high right now it's ridiculous.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 10, 2022 10:33:34 GMT -5
It is silly given they literally said before this that it would focus on games coming out in the first half of 2022, and they even showed us some stuff that comes out later, so, that's kind of on them for not paying attention. Would I have been down to see BOTW2 or some more of Bayonetta 3, etc? Sure, certainly, but I went in knowing neither was likely. And that's the thing. We have, hopefully, the E3 presentation in about 4 months. And they are going to show BOTW2, Bayo3, more Splatoon 3, more XC3 (weird how many 3s are in here. Perhaps Portal is coming to the Switch because Valve is learning how to count from Nintendo?), perhaps finally show Metroid Prime 4 in some way, usually there's a surprise or two in there like a new mainline Mario game + 3rd party stuff that we can't even imagine... it's like... the bar is so high right now it's ridiculous. I'd imagine we'll get an announcement of the next mainline Fire Emblem there too. Intelligent Systems doesn't tend to have downtime for long.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 10, 2022 10:39:56 GMT -5
Yeah, in terms of an opening Direct for the year, this was their best showing in a long time. And if anything, the fact they potentially have more in the chamber (BOTW2, Bayonetta 3, a potential new Mario, Mario Party DLC etc) shows that they’re very much in a position of strength going into this year, arguably for the first time since the Switch launched.
Even being the console that is for more niche games is a showcase of the future potential of stuff like game collections or re-releases and the like is a big deal for potential stuff in the future. Really can’t see how it was a failure at all.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 10, 2022 13:09:46 GMT -5
Forgot how grindy Earthbound Beginnings is. I’m about 2 hours in and I’ve done basically nothing, but I’m determined to beat it this time. I never did finish it on Wii U, and I bought it the day it came out
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 10, 2022 13:13:06 GMT -5
Forgot how grindy Earthbound Beginnings is. I’m about 2 hours in and I’ve done basically nothing, but I’m determined to beat it this time. I never did finish it on Wii U, and I bought it the day it came out Yeah, that's Mother's cardinal sin. The game's grind can be unforgiving, especially late game when you get to Mount Itoi. Honestly, I'd recommend playing the 25th Anniversary Hack. It tones down the encounters, balances the game far better and a lot of the sprites get an upgrade to look closer to the original clay models.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 10, 2022 13:52:20 GMT -5
Really hoping we get a cup that consists of the Double Dash, DS, Wii, and Mario Kart 7 versions of Rainbow Road. Feels like it'd be a waste not to have a whole set of those. ... Guess that'd leave Super Circuit in the cold but think if you have to cut one it's the one to cut since it's not that different from the SNES one.
Don't know how likely that actually is though, the only Rainbow Road in Tour that isn't already in MK8 is the MK7 one.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 10, 2022 15:11:25 GMT -5
Most of the people I know acting like that fell into the trap of "omfg they are going to announce release dates for BOTW2/New MarioKart Game/*insert random moonshot dream here*" They created their own disappointment by manufacturing all these dream scenarios that didn't play out. It would be like watching the Superbowl this year and getting mad because there was no commercials for the Next Star Wars Trilogy and expecting people to rise up around you and get angry. Fans, especially Nintendo Fans for some reason, do this all the time. They hype themselves up for shit that Nintendo has not promised, and then get angry when Nintendo doesn't deliver on the thing that they made up. Like the Switch OLED how many people were pissed off that it wasn't a massive upgrade to 4k with new hardware on the inside? That was all speculation based on literally nothing... Nintendo didn't start teasing a 4k Switch was coming and then come out with a slightly better version of the system. They didn't say anything and then announced hey here's a switch with a slightly better screen. Or when Nintendo announced that quick Indy showcase a few months ago... where people were pissed off that all they showed off were a bunch of indy games and didn't talk about any of their own big IPs! It's cool to want to see these things, or hope that they happen... but like... don't get angry at people that didn't promise you anything.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 10, 2022 15:24:46 GMT -5
Most of the people I know acting like that fell into the trap of "omfg they are going to announce release dates for BOTW2/New MarioKart Game/*insert random moonshot dream here*" They created their own disappointment by manufacturing all these dream scenarios that didn't play out. It would be like watching the Superbowl this year and getting mad because there was no commercials for the Next Star Wars Trilogy and expecting people to rise up around you and get angry. Fans, especially Nintendo Fans for some reason, do this all the time. They hype themselves up for shit that Nintendo has not promised, and then get angry when Nintendo doesn't deliver on the thing that they made up. Like the Switch OLED how many people were pissed off that it wasn't a massive upgrade to 4k with new hardware on the inside? That was all speculation based on literally nothing... Nintendo didn't start teasing a 4k Switch was coming and then come out with a slightly better version of the system. They didn't say anything and then announced hey here's a switch with a slightly better screen. Or when Nintendo announced that quick Indy showcase a few months ago... where people were pissed off that all they showed off were a bunch of indy games and didn't talk about any of their own big IPs! It's cool to want to see these things, or hope that they happen... but like... don't get angry at people that didn't promise you anything. In fairness, the OLED Switch should've had more than it did. I get what you're saying, but I don't think that was people hyping themselves up as much as it was Nintendo under-delivering.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 10, 2022 15:27:24 GMT -5
Fans, especially Nintendo Fans for some reason, do this all the time. They hype themselves up for shit that Nintendo has not promised, and then get angry when Nintendo doesn't deliver on the thing that they made up. Like the Switch OLED how many people were pissed off that it wasn't a massive upgrade to 4k with new hardware on the inside? That was all speculation based on literally nothing... Nintendo didn't start teasing a 4k Switch was coming and then come out with a slightly better version of the system. They didn't say anything and then announced hey here's a switch with a slightly better screen. Or when Nintendo announced that quick Indy showcase a few months ago... where people were pissed off that all they showed off were a bunch of indy games and didn't talk about any of their own big IPs! It's cool to want to see these things, or hope that they happen... but like... don't get angry at people that didn't promise you anything. In fairness, the OLED Switch should've had more than it did. I get what you're saying, but I don't think that was people hyping themselves up as much as it was Nintendo under-delivering. You can complain that it's not really worth the upgrade if you own a regular switch and stuff like that. But people were pissed it wasn't this pie in the sky ultimate gamer machine based on literally nothing. Nintendo didn't even announce they were working on a new model until it was released.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 10, 2022 15:32:16 GMT -5
In fairness, the OLED Switch should've had more than it did. I get what you're saying, but I don't think that was people hyping themselves up as much as it was Nintendo under-delivering. You can complain that it's not really worth the upgrade if you own a regular switch and stuff like that. But people were pissed it wasn't this pie in the sky ultimate gamer machine based on literally nothing. Nintendo didn't even announce they were working on a new model until it was released. Oh no, I don't disagree there, it was never going to be the PS5 killer people wanted. I think honestly what people wanted is closer to the Steam Deck, but Nintendo.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 10, 2022 15:46:15 GMT -5
I always thought the whole concept of a New Switch was a stupid idea that was never going to happen just because if they did do it it'd end up exactly like the New 3DS, the new bells and whistles almost entirely go to waste because no one makes games for it because only a fraction of a fraction of the install base actually bothered to buy one.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 10, 2022 15:51:14 GMT -5
I always thought the whole concept of a New Switch was a stupid idea that was never going to happen just because if they did do it it'd end up exactly like the New 3DS, the new bells and whistles almost entirely go to waste because no one makes games for it because only a fraction of a fraction of the install base actually bothered to buy one. Yeah, if they did make the new Switch that people were talking about... it would just kinda be there. Cause game companies aren't going to sell games that at leas 90% of the audience can't use.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 11, 2022 16:02:11 GMT -5
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 13, 2022 14:33:48 GMT -5
I always thought the whole concept of a New Switch was a stupid idea that was never going to happen just because if they did do it it'd end up exactly like the New 3DS, the new bells and whistles almost entirely go to waste because no one makes games for it because only a fraction of a fraction of the install base actually bothered to buy one. I bought a New 3DS XL launch day and I regret nothing, the 3DS was my go to for 2012-2018 and it’s one of my favourite systems ever. Other then SNES VC, I don’t even think I own any games that needed the New 3DS but that thing was awesome. If it weren’t so ungodly cost prohibitive, $450 in Canada and I still don’t own a XBox Series X yet, I’d buy the Switch OLED in a heartbeat because 99% of my Switch gaming is handheld.
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Post by Ganon83 on Feb 13, 2022 14:58:23 GMT -5
A new console is not coming until Mario Kart 8’s DLC roadmap is finished. My bet is that the next Nintendo console probably comes out in Q2 of 2024
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 13, 2022 15:06:13 GMT -5
A new console is not coming until Mario Kart 8’s DLC roadmap is finished. My bet is that the next Nintendo console probably comes out in Q2 of 2024 Alongside Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Turbo HD Remix.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 13, 2022 15:48:50 GMT -5
A new console is not coming until Mario Kart 8’s DLC roadmap is finished. My bet is that the next Nintendo console probably comes out in Q2 of 2024 Alongside Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Turbo HD Remix. Also GTA 5 >_>
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 13, 2022 15:53:12 GMT -5
2024 would make sense; it basically is enough to time for Switch to get a few more major titles (BOTW 2, DKC, Prime 4, next mainline Fire Emblem, potentially another 3D Mario) before bowing out for its successor. Wouldn't surprise me to see a port of Xenoblade Chronicles X that year to not only get that finally off the Wii U but also keep up the momentum of the franchise between 3 and whatever comes after.
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