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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 23, 2022 21:31:17 GMT -5
Like could you imagine if Microsoft had that software library and what GamePass would look like right now? Nintendo's greatest strength is their library and they have never used it at their maximum potential for no particular reason. Without researching too much...how much of that would be a different in cultural mindset with things between North American viewpoints (Microsoft) and Japanese viewpoints (Nintendo)? I mean, that was a country that wouldn't even allow video game rentals back in the height of the Blockbuster and such stores days IIRC. That is a point too. Nintendo is a VERY Japanese company. Sony and Microsoft are far more American.
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Post by CMWaters on May 23, 2022 21:35:32 GMT -5
Without researching too much...how much of that would be a different in cultural mindset with things between North American viewpoints (Microsoft) and Japanese viewpoints (Nintendo)? I mean, that was a country that wouldn't even allow video game rentals back in the height of the Blockbuster and such stores days IIRC. That is a point too. Nintendo is a VERY Japanese company. Sony and Microsoft are far more American. Sony is kinda becoming a halfway between the two, but leaning towards more American viewpoints just to not fall behind Microsoft again like the 360 days (though the near impossibility of finding PS5s in the wild isn't helping them these days).
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2022 0:44:50 GMT -5
Like could you imagine if Microsoft had that software library and what GamePass would look like right now? Nintendo's greatest strength is their library and they have never used it at their maximum potential for no particular reason. It really is just utterly baffling. Like... The Switch can run Gamecube and Wii games. This is an indisputable fact. They even have an emulator already made for it that's used for Sunshine and Galaxy. Why in the hell are they not dumping everything from Thousand-Year Door to Eternal Darkness to Pokemon Colosseum to Donkey Kong Country Returns to Other M on the Switch and milking it like absolute crazy? While switch can play those systems games, you have to take in account that they would need to rework alot of those games so they can work with the Switch joycons/controller. You can't expect Wii motion controls to magically work with joycons. For me, Sunshine is borderline unplayable without the gamecube controller and even that requires them to patch the game so it would be compatible with the gamecube controller adapter. Since you mention Eternal Darkness, even that game would need some work on it to make sure all the random stuff it has (reading your memory card or resetting the system) could work on the switch without any issue.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 24, 2022 0:50:50 GMT -5
It really is just utterly baffling. Like... The Switch can run Gamecube and Wii games. This is an indisputable fact. They even have an emulator already made for it that's used for Sunshine and Galaxy. Why in the hell are they not dumping everything from Thousand-Year Door to Eternal Darkness to Pokemon Colosseum to Donkey Kong Country Returns to Other M on the Switch and milking it like absolute crazy? While switch can play those systems games, you have to take in account that they would need to rework alot of those games so they can work with the Switch joycons/controller. You can't expect Wii motion controls to magically work with joycons. For me, Sunshine is borderline unplayable without the gamecube controller and even that requires them to patch the game so it would be compatible with the gamecube controller adapter. Since you mention Eternal Darkness, even that game would need some work on it to make sure all the random stuff it has (reading your memory card or resetting the system) could work on the switch without any issue. also stuff like that could open up lawsuits from people that worked on the games that are not actually Nintendo. Silicon Knights(or whoever owns the rights to the company that was) , TEam Ninja (But lets be real NOBODY is asking for Other M to be ported), Retro Studios... etc. would likely start renegotiating any future contracts for projects by Nintendo for future proofing. Hell they might already have some sort of mention in the contracts already on the idea just again to future proof stuff. But also yeah it's not just like ok let's just throw this up totally in working condition now... when Nintendo controllers have gone through the most design changes of any console maker... the Xbox and Playstation controllers pretty much look the same as they did from the beginning... with minor tweaks...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2022 1:41:09 GMT -5
While switch can play those systems games, you have to take in account that they would need to rework alot of those games so they can work with the Switch joycons/controller. You can't expect Wii motion controls to magically work with joycons. For me, Sunshine is borderline unplayable without the gamecube controller and even that requires them to patch the game so it would be compatible with the gamecube controller adapter. Since you mention Eternal Darkness, even that game would need some work on it to make sure all the random stuff it has (reading your memory card or resetting the system) could work on the switch without any issue. also stuff like that could open up lawsuits from people that worked on the games that are not actually Nintendo. Silicon Knights(or whoever owns the rights to the company that was) , TEam Ninja (But lets be real NOBODY is asking for Other M to be ported), Retro Studios... etc. would likely start renegotiating any future contracts for projects by Nintendo for future proofing. Hell they might already have some sort of mention in the contracts already on the idea just again to future proof stuff. But also yeah it's not just like ok let's just throw this up totally in working condition now... when Nintendo controllers have gone through the most design changes of any console maker... the Xbox and Playstation controllers pretty much look the same as they did from the beginning... with minor tweaks... That why the Wii U/DS/3DS era game are going to be screw unless they remake half of those games especially for the games that uses both screen or something like touch control.
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Post by CMWaters on May 26, 2022 20:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on May 26, 2022 20:30:26 GMT -5
Pinball is an easy way to spend an hour or so
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 21:28:43 GMT -5
I actually thought pinball was already on there.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 26, 2022 21:59:40 GMT -5
Pinball is a lot of fun for an early Nintendo Game.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 26, 2022 22:04:38 GMT -5
Clicking around on Pinball and it's basically the grandparent of Kirby Pinball (one of my favorite games ever) so that's neat.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 26, 2022 22:51:15 GMT -5
On the plus side that rival turfs box art is now seen by millions of confused kids
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 26, 2022 22:55:06 GMT -5
On the plus side that rival turfs box art is now seen by millions of confused kids It did unlock a memory of me wandering through blockbuster seeing it and being confused almost as confused as Phalanx
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Post by chrom on May 27, 2022 9:34:49 GMT -5
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on May 27, 2022 11:12:17 GMT -5
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 27, 2022 12:21:44 GMT -5
Clicking around on Pinball and it's basically the grandparent of Kirby Pinball (one of my favorite games ever) so that's neat. Kirby’s Pinball is f***ing awesome. Got it at a yard sale as a kid a spent soooooo many car rides on that game. Hell, I was just playing it a couple weeks ago
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Post by chrom on May 27, 2022 17:59:23 GMT -5
Got Forgotten Land today, for my first Kirby game it's pretty fun
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 27, 2022 21:00:59 GMT -5
The restored content being released in an official capacity is a nice touch.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 28, 2022 1:00:52 GMT -5
The restored content being released in an official capacity is a nice touch. Ooh, definitely getting that then.
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Post by xCompackx on May 28, 2022 8:51:19 GMT -5
also stuff like that could open up lawsuits from people that worked on the games that are not actually Nintendo. Silicon Knights(or whoever owns the rights to the company that was) , TEam Ninja (But lets be real NOBODY is asking for Other M to be ported), Retro Studios... etc. would likely start renegotiating any future contracts for projects by Nintendo for future proofing. Hell they might already have some sort of mention in the contracts already on the idea just again to future proof stuff. But also yeah it's not just like ok let's just throw this up totally in working condition now... when Nintendo controllers have gone through the most design changes of any console maker... the Xbox and Playstation controllers pretty much look the same as they did from the beginning... with minor tweaks... That why the Wii U/DS/3DS era game are going to be screw unless they remake half of those games especially for the games that uses both screen or something like touch control. I think you could probably make DS/3DS games work on Switch. There'd definitely need to be some reworking of screen sizes (maybe side-by-side?), but I'm sure they could do it. Wii U seems to have been solved already by just porting the popular games to the Switch, lol. But yeah, I'd love a GameCube/Wii/Wii U subscription service on Switch. I'm pretty sure the tricks Nintendo used for Sunshine and Galaxy aren't 1:1 emulators so it'd be a pretty big undertaking for a questionable level of payoff, but for nostalgia, it'd be great. But contract issues are definitely going to be the biggest issue there; even a service with just the most popular GC games would be a nightmare to work out with every company involved, let alone if the company has been sold or what have you.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 28, 2022 12:45:53 GMT -5
the problem with DS/3ds vs Wii U... is that the screen on the ds and 3ds tended to be more useful on them...
the wii u things that generally got ported were things that basically just mirrored the screen and TV and not anything that the screen played an important part in.
Things like Starfox Zero where the screen and TV are both necessary to play for instance haven't been ported and likely never will... (which I don't think too many people are going to mourn)
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