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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 8, 2016 15:47:47 GMT -5
Or they had just went with the fact that this is make believe and they could push him accordingly without the nonsense. Would his title feud with Austin gotten over AT ALL? Don't get me wrong, dude was badass back in the day, but clearly seemed past it even if you did remember him from the Eighties
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 8, 2016 16:00:08 GMT -5
J.R. would have had the biggest erection known to man.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jul 8, 2016 16:19:58 GMT -5
I guarantee that most of JR's infatuation with him was because he was the star of JR's favorite football team. It would be like me being tasked with objectively deciding if our department should hire some random person or Aaron Rodgers to do a job they're both qualified for.
I actually liked Doc, but I never understand this idea that JR and Cornette push that he would be this huge star. He wasn't even that big of a star in the 1980s. He was the champion of Mid South/UWF as it was dying and was far less of a star than the other Mid South guys like Junkyard Dog, Jim Duggan, or Ted Dibiase. In the NWA/Crockett, he was in the Main Event level, but was way behind guys like Dusty, The Horsemen, Sting, The Road Warriors or even guys like Windhawm, Luger and Nikita Koloff. Plus, he hadn't wrestled in a major American promotion for 6 years by that point. And he was nearly 40 years old at the time. It would have been a disaster. Claiming that WWF made this huge mistake would be like saying the WWE made a huge mistake in modern times for not making James Storm one of the focal points of the company when he came to NXT.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 8, 2016 16:26:24 GMT -5
I pretty much agree. I liked him and saw his UWF win, but even back then he was a no frills guy, much less in the heart of the Attitude Era. By then, it was more like pushing your tough uncle.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 16:54:50 GMT -5
"WHOOOOOOA THE WORLD'S TURNIN'!"
He was over in Mid-South because he was a tough as nails guy Bill Watts loved. But, he also had Ted DiBiase as his tag partner.
He was like a hairy Goldberg. You wanted to see him mow down guys.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jul 8, 2016 17:21:35 GMT -5
I love Doc, and his team with Gordy is one of my favorite things in wrestling, but I wasn't watching WWF at the time, so I've often wondered about that whole scenario.
Mostly, I wondered why the hell they didn't just have him kick the shit out of some people in a working fashion if they wanted to give him that push.
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Post by dav on Jul 8, 2016 17:31:30 GMT -5
Dr. Death had won Brawl for All.
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Post by bmfjules on Jul 8, 2016 17:46:16 GMT -5
It makes me wonder--who would have been the best option (if any of them) to give a modern day Brock Lesnar style push to out of the options of Dr. Death, Severn, and Shamrock? Each could have been sold as legit killers. I think Severn was menacing enough, but boring in the ring. Dr. Death could suplex people to death, but needed a mouthpiece to really take it over the top. Shamrock I think perhaps works the best as he could talk somewhat decently, could also suplex people to death and had a very over finisher. Even though of the three, he's the least "monstery" by far.
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Post by The Gallus Mark on Jul 8, 2016 17:51:22 GMT -5
Best thing about Dr. Death by that point in time was his badass nickname, that was about it.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jul 8, 2016 17:51:28 GMT -5
If Dr. Death won Brawl for All, Brawl for All still would have been pretty awful.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Jul 8, 2016 17:56:22 GMT -5
He was awesome in All Japan but I never saw him as a guy who would fit in in the WWF, personally. Especially not during that time period.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 8, 2016 17:58:03 GMT -5
He would have been an opponent for Austin, but not right away. He would have torn through the midcard, flattening Farooq, Jarrett, brawling with Shamrock and others on his way to a main event program with Austin he doesn't deserve.
In no universe is he left to tread water before eventually being given a few weeks to prepare for a shoot match with a fat, bald boxer with no name value to the audience as Bart Gunn was, they put him in a no win situation where if he won, he'd beaten a no name freakshow boxer and if he lost, any shine he had would be scraped off.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jul 8, 2016 18:35:23 GMT -5
He was out of place in the attitude era
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Post by Dub H on Jul 8, 2016 18:46:55 GMT -5
Best thing about Dr. Death by that point in time was his badass nickname, that was about it. It sounds stupid,one of these things that it isn't as cool today.May have been the most fearsome name at the time
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Post by thegame415 on Jul 8, 2016 20:19:51 GMT -5
The best way to bring him in would've been in the Boss Man role. Or, as Vince's bodyguard.
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Post by Reflecto on Jul 8, 2016 21:19:59 GMT -5
It makes me wonder--who would have been the best option (if any of them) to give a modern day Brock Lesnar style push to out of the options of Dr. Death, Severn, and Shamrock? Each could have been sold as legit killers. I think Severn was menacing enough, but boring in the ring. Dr. Death could suplex people to death, but needed a mouthpiece to really take it over the top. Shamrock I think perhaps works the best as he could talk somewhat decently, could also suplex people to death and had a very over finisher. Even though of the three, he's the least "monstery" by far. Even that wouldn't have worked since Lesnar could get this modern day style push because of his legitimate fighting credentials as former UFC champion. Compare that, and ONLY Shamrock could do it. Shamrock was the most well-known UFC competitor at the time (and the face of UFC when people thought mixed martial arts was lawless, human cockfighting, real-life Mortal Kombat). Dan Severn was a indy wrestler who had appeared a couple times in UFC in the past, and Steve Williams...had no real shootfighting experience to speak of, but all the boys in the back considered Williams a really, really tough dude.
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Post by CJ Lee on Jul 8, 2016 21:45:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure why, but I always mix up Dr. Death and Dan Severn. They don't even look all that similar but I always confuse them.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 8, 2016 21:52:42 GMT -5
Brawl for All is probably the dumbest thing that was ever done in WWF proper, so, discounting stuff like WBF or XFL, where it was not in the company proper.
Brawl for all was a bigger waste than Nathan Jones and Brakkus combined.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan on Jul 8, 2016 21:55:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure why, but I always mix up Dr. Death and Dan Severn. They don't even look all that similar but I always confuse them. They gave Dr. Death Severn's theme in WWF Attitude. That may be it.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jul 8, 2016 21:56:13 GMT -5
Fans crapped all over the tournament and wouldn't have given two steamers over Williams had he won.
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