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Post by Schizo on Jul 18, 2016 20:17:30 GMT -5
Kinda surprised this wasn't a Smackdown thing but otherwise, Iam excited but this.
What's everyone's opinion on this huge news. Will it work or will it be an an excuse for Stephanie to slap them vanilla midgets around.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 20:19:22 GMT -5
Hate the idea of the Cruiserweight division. It always just feels like, "These tiny guys aren't good enough to hang with the real wrestlers," and internally it makes no sense because there's nothing stopping two Cruiserweight guys from fighting over one of the other belts and given that it just makes the Cruiserweight title come off like a C-prize for people who can't get the job done when it comes to the titles that everyone can go for.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 18, 2016 20:21:50 GMT -5
We've been down that road before It won't bode well
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Post by MrElijah on Jul 18, 2016 20:22:22 GMT -5
Looks like they no longer have to Cruiser-wait, brother!
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 18, 2016 20:22:30 GMT -5
Soooo, they've put it on the brand most likely to be 100% micromanaged by a guy who's never really understood the appeal of cruiserweight wrestling. I give it 2-3 months before we see the cruisers being squashed by the Big Show in handicap matches.
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Post by Error on Jul 18, 2016 20:23:39 GMT -5
Hate the idea of the Cruiserweight division. It always just feels like, "These tiny guys aren't good enough to hang with the real wrestlers," and internally it makes no sense because there's nothing stopping two Cruiserweight guys from fighting over one of the other belts. Agreed. Weight limits don't work, IMO. You can do styles, tags and what not but weight limits always fail. Now that said, they have 3 hours to fill on Mondays so adding something like this makes sense.
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Post by CJ Lee on Jul 18, 2016 20:23:53 GMT -5
As long as it's done well I don't care which show the cruiser weight division is on. I'm hoping that with there being General Managers that it means that Stephanie and Shane will be on the shows rarely. But I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 20:26:11 GMT -5
Hate the idea of the Cruiserweight division. It always just feels like, "These tiny guys aren't good enough to hang with the real wrestlers," and internally it makes no sense because there's nothing stopping two Cruiserweight guys from fighting over one of the other belts. Agreed. Weight limits don't work, IMO. You can do styles, tags and what not but weight limits always fail. Now that said, they have 3 hours to fill on Mondays so adding something like this makes sense. I'd go with a Hardcore title. WWE could benefit from having a bit of extra craziness once every two or three weeks.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jul 18, 2016 20:27:39 GMT -5
It'll last a few months I bet.
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Post by Gremlin on Jul 18, 2016 20:28:28 GMT -5
Agreed. Weight limits don't work, IMO. You can do styles, tags and what not but weight limits always fail. Now that said, they have 3 hours to fill on Mondays so adding something like this makes sense. I'd go with a Hardcore title. WWE could benefit from having a bit of extra craziness once every two or three weeks. WWE could benefit from having a bit of extra craziness once every two or three weeks hours.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Jul 18, 2016 20:39:32 GMT -5
While it could be okay and will certainly produce some good matches, I'm apprehensive about it. It helps strengthen resistance to use smaller guys for main event programs. There are obvious exceptions to this, but I feel like they've broken a lot of ground since the Legendary Hornswoggle retired the belt. Not to mention the company has never seemed to fully understand cruiserweights like the peak of it in WCW, especially if it's on Raw with Vince at helm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 20:41:30 GMT -5
I just hope that the guys who are in the division don't get held down for being cruiserweights. The division could develop a stigma that they can't hang with the top guys. That certainly is not the case.
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Post by Crimson on Jul 18, 2016 20:44:07 GMT -5
I got mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, the Cruiserweight division is what made me prefer WCW or WWF back in the day because all my favorites happened to be in that division. On the otherhand, my opinion kind of soured after learning that it was an intentional glass ceiling for so many performers.
I dunno, I really dug the X-Division in TNA as well before they completely crapped on it at the end.
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Post by Sicho100 on Jul 18, 2016 20:44:45 GMT -5
At least Neville will win a title.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Jul 18, 2016 21:09:13 GMT -5
I love light heavyweight/Cruiserweight divisions. One of the saddest things that happened in WCW to me was when Brad Armstrong vacated the WCW Light Heavyweight Title due to injury and that son of a bitch Bill Watts promised us a tournament to fill that vacancy that didn't materialize four years later with the Cruiserweight title tourney. My only problem with it is the previously mentioned glass ceiling on them. But that shouldn't be. I think wrestling fans can wrap their heads around the idea of a Cruiserweight beating a heavyweight if you use proper psychology.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jul 18, 2016 21:11:31 GMT -5
Yeah, this is never going to work on Raw.
Put the Cruiserweight division on Smackdown where it will at least have a fighting chance for six months before Vince-Dunn somehow get their hooks back into Smackdown. Give Raw a Steak Wrap and Ketchup division to distract Vince if you need to.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jul 18, 2016 21:12:03 GMT -5
Raw continues to become Nitro.
The first hour or two will have solid wrestling. Now with an actual Cruiserweight division. Put a TV title on Cesaro and we'll just have Reigns muck up the last 30 minutes against Big Show and we're there.
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Post by Error on Jul 18, 2016 21:13:45 GMT -5
I hope that this leads to Smackdown taking the Women's Division.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 18, 2016 21:17:13 GMT -5
While it could be okay and will certainly produce some good matches, I'm apprehensive about it. It helps strengthen resistance to use smaller guys for main event programs. There are obvious exceptions to this, but I feel like they've broken a lot of ground since the Legendary Hornswoggle retired the belt. Not to mention the company has never seemed to fully understand cruiserweights like the peak of it in WCW, especially if it's on Raw with Vince at helm. But not every smaller guy is main event worthy and the ones who are will make it there regardless.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Jul 18, 2016 21:39:36 GMT -5
The problem with the WWE Cruiserweight division in the past was that it just felt like every other match you see on a card, just performed by people under 200 pounds. No real high flying or high octane stuff, just standard wrestling.
I've not seen anything of the Cruiserweight thing on NXT to see how they are doing it, but if they are bringing it back on Raw, they have to make them different to the other matches on the show.
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