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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 16, 2017 11:30:16 GMT -5
I think that's a pretty interesting concept. Give different ways of playing levels and let people choose how they want to play. Why not? Yeah, I don't exactly see the issue here. Sonic fan characters are popular enough, so why shouldn't Sega appeal to that crowd?
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Post by Fundertaker on May 16, 2017 11:42:55 GMT -5
I think that's a pretty interesting concept. Give different ways of playing levels and let people choose how they want to play. Why not? Yeah, I don't exactly see the issue here. Sonic fan characters are popular enough, so why shouldn't Sega appeal to that crowd? You see that topic talking about "toxic fanbases"? This is like adding just enough fire that the "toxic" becomes "exploding". Sure, this will guarantee SEGA will make a pretty penny on this (way more than Sonic Mania, I would imagine) and I love the addition (heck, it makes as much sense as Super Mario Maker if one thinks about it)... but we all know that the Sonic fanbase isn't... sane.
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Post by BorneAgain on May 16, 2017 11:43:29 GMT -5
With this as an option, I of course will be creating Murky the Hedgehog, who looks kinda like Shadow, but is much deeper and grittier. He runs faster than him and Sonic, plus has the ability to phase through time, and doesn't need the Chaos Emeralds to go super. Note:
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 16, 2017 11:55:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't exactly see the issue here. Sonic fan characters are popular enough, so why shouldn't Sega appeal to that crowd? You see that topic talking about "toxic fanbases"? This is like adding just enough fire that the "toxic" becomes "exploding". Sure, this will guarantee SEGA will make a pretty penny on this (way more than Sonic Mania, I would imagine) and I love the addition (heck, it makes as much sense as Super Mario Maker if one thinks about it)... but we all know that the Sonic fanbase isn't... sane. I think that's a rather unfair and broad statement. Eccentricity isn't exclusive to one fandom.
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Post by eJm on May 16, 2017 12:01:36 GMT -5
So... I think the fandom will/has exploded with this one. Finally! I can play as Sonichu!
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Post by FinalGwen on May 16, 2017 12:06:44 GMT -5
The toxic side of the Sonic fanbase isn't the side happily creating their own OCs. When I think about the unpleasant side of the Sonic community, it's not the spriting forums where people posted their own characters, it's the places like Sonic Retro and Sonic Cult where bitter 4Channers got angry at people enjoying stuff they don't like.
Yeah, so DeviantArt is going to have a bunch more screencaps submitted of people's characters, is it the biggest deal? This is going to make a lot of kids very happy (seriously, I would have been overjoyed with this as a kid) and a lot of older fans as well. We've got the potential to recreate fan characters, or even try and make our own versions of characters from STC/SatAM/etc (a little solace for the Archie fans with the recent news). It doesn't take anything away from anyone, and to be honest, Sega embracing a side of the fanbase that's pretty much never been formally acknowledged is pretty cool.
And personally I love character creators in any game that has them.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 16, 2017 12:15:14 GMT -5
The toxic side of the Sonic fanbase isn't the side happily creating their own OCs. When I think about the unpleasant side of the Sonic community, it's not the spriting forums where people posted their own characters, it's the places like Sonic Retro and Sonic Cult where bitter 4Channers got angry at people enjoying stuff they don't like. Yeah, so DeviantArt is going to have a bunch more screencaps submitted of people's characters, is it the biggest deal? This is going to make a lot of kids very happy (seriously, I would have been overjoyed with this as a kid) and a lot of older fans as well. We've got the potential to recreate fan characters, or even try and make our own versions of characters from STC/SatAM/etc (a little solace for the Archie fans with the recent news). It doesn't take anything away from anyone, and to be honest, Sega embracing a side of the fanbase that's pretty much never been formally acknowledged is pretty cool. And personally I love character creators in any game that has them. I'm gonna make the best Sally ever.
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Post by Fundertaker on May 16, 2017 12:37:52 GMT -5
You see that topic talking about "toxic fanbases"? This is like adding just enough fire that the "toxic" becomes "exploding". Sure, this will guarantee SEGA will make a pretty penny on this (way more than Sonic Mania, I would imagine) and I love the addition (heck, it makes as much sense as Super Mario Maker if one thinks about it)... but we all know that the Sonic fanbase isn't... sane. I think that's a rather unfair and broad statement. Eccentricity isn't exclusive to one fandom. Nor have I said otherwise. But we all know that the Sonic fanbase over the years has proven to be one of the "toxic" variety. I'm not judging which fiefdom of the fandom spews the most toxicity (nor saying that's "all equal". I simple see the by-products of its production after several "processes" are made and it comes into the general gaming media) either, just that we know that stuff Sonichu and the "Sonic Cycle" happen and gain notoriety because the fanbase is what it is and this is basically combining several aspects of said fanbase, maybe giving some sort of faulty interpretation of validation to some and giving forth new unwanted hate-filled discussions because people wanted this feature for some reasons, others for other reasons and even others that didn't want it at all. Or maybe I'm just too prejudiced against a fandom that I really haven't seen anything particularly positive about since forever and thus am unable to give them the benefit of the doubt as easily as others. (just explaining my point of view on it, btw. Again: I like the feature, just fear it will devolve into nasty stuff in the fandom itself.)
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 16, 2017 12:44:16 GMT -5
I think that's a rather unfair and broad statement. Eccentricity isn't exclusive to one fandom. Nor have I said otherwise. But we all know that the Sonic fanbase over the years has proven to be one of the "toxic" variety. I'm not judging which fiefdom of the fandom spews the most toxicity (nor saying that's "all equal". I simple see the by-products of its production after several "processes" are made and it comes into the general gaming media) either, just that we know that stuff Sonichu and the "Sonic Cycle" happen and gain notoriety because the fanbase is what it is and this is basically combining several aspects of said fanbase, maybe giving some sort of faulty interpretation of validation to some and giving forth new unwanted hate-filled discussions because people wanted this feature for some reasons, others for other reasons and even others that didn't want it at all. Or maybe I'm just too prejudiced against a fandom that I really haven't seen anything particularly positive about since forever and thus am unable to give them the benefit of the doubt as easily as others. (just explaining my point of view on it, btw. Again: I like the feature, just fear it will devolve into nasty stuff in the fandom itself.) I've seen plenty of weird stuff and unpleasant things in other fandoms, but I still try to give people the benefit of the doubt regardless. It's only fair. People shouldn't be tarred with brushes for enjoying something harmless. Whatever insanity I see from anywhere, I'm not going to allow myself to develop any sort of prejudices against an entire fandom.
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Post by Dub H on May 16, 2017 13:12:52 GMT -5
I think that's a pretty interesting concept. Give different ways of playing levels and let people choose how they want to play. Why not? If it works it is good. But how many times Sega tried that approach and bit it in the ass?Too many times. I mean,they did great on Generations,if they do that same thing,but better, it will be great(that from a strict gameplay side) from a business side I can see some people thinking the OC's in game are cringy and having no wish to play then. But not sure it will be that big of an amount of people. Edit: watched a clip of the OC gameplay,and actually looks good.Nothing crazy over the top as I was worried
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Post by BorneAgain on May 16, 2017 16:17:34 GMT -5
It'd be cool for me if the final game took the best elements of Unleashed, Generations, and Colors. Modern Sonic with the fast boost gameplay, classic Sonic with the lush 2D stages, and the OC characters using an evolved form of the Wisps.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on May 16, 2017 16:39:12 GMT -5
So... I think the fandom will/has exploded with this one. Finally! I can play as Sonichu! Forget that. I'm gonna make Mary Lee Walsh.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 16, 2017 16:43:23 GMT -5
Haven't enjoyed a new Sonic game that I've played in forever, this one has my attention though.
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Post by Cyno on May 16, 2017 16:45:04 GMT -5
These will make those terribly-drawn Sonic OC's look legit, so as someone with little artistic talent himself, I'm happy for those people. Though I doubt the game will let you give your custom character emo eyeliner, JNCO jeans, or 5 foot long katanas.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on May 16, 2017 17:23:57 GMT -5
These will make those terribly-drawn Sonic OC's look legit, so as someone with little artistic talent himself, I'm happy for those people. Though I doubt the game will let you give your custom character emo eyeliner, JNCO jeans, or 5 foot long katanas. Gotta save something for DLC.
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 16, 2017 17:40:33 GMT -5
So... I think the fandom will/has exploded with this one. Finally, I can live out my dream of being a hipster fox.
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Post by Cyno on May 16, 2017 18:46:53 GMT -5
So... I think the fandom will/has exploded with this one. Finally, I can live out my dream of being a hipster fox. A hipster fox character who breaks the fourth wall by constantly bringing up to Sonic how his older games were better.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:45:39 GMT -5
I actually like the idea of creating your own character and playing as them. Hopefully Sonic Team don't half ass it or uses it to trick people into a buying a broken game.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on May 16, 2017 19:46:01 GMT -5
The prophecy hath been foretold
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:49:11 GMT -5
It's interesting, that's for sure. Hopefully the custom characters will be fun to play as.
Also, shouldn't this thread get a title change?
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