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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 3:34:49 GMT -5
What about the stiff as f*** Cesaro/Sheamus match? That was good fun. Also about the 80th time they've faced each other. I couldn't possibly care about a Sheamus / Cesaro match at this point.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Aug 9, 2016 3:42:29 GMT -5
Sorry, meant 2009. The guest host era. Holy balls am I glad we're out of that...though tonight did have Puff Daddy so that's kinda funny. Although, to be fair... Diddy hardly did anything. I mean, he did a backstage bit with Foley and New Day. That's it. If it were 2009, he'd be getting the pin in the main event over Cody Rhodes. And Chavo.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 9, 2016 4:35:08 GMT -5
Although, to be fair... Diddy hardly did anything. I mean, he did a backstage bit with Foley and New Day. That's it. If it were 2009, he'd be getting the pin in the main event over Cody Rhodes. And Chavo. Also Chavo*
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Post by IMPRESSIVE knightwing1047 on Aug 9, 2016 6:40:45 GMT -5
This marks the only time in my life I've rated Raw a 1.
Last night's show was an atrocity. It's almost like they had no actual idea what they were doing. I can't even begin to list what I hated about that show tonight. I found myself turning the channel to watch the Olympics' men's synchronized diving. I don't think there is anyone currently working for WWE that can or should be proud of that show last night. Raw was terrible last night. The only glimmer of enjoyment I got came in the very first segment. Then, I thought about it... why is Owens' acting like Jericho's lackey? Why are Cass and Enzo feuding with JerichOwens to begin with, because Jericho tried to C*ck block Enzo?
Unbelievable. Every single person working on that show should be ashamed of themselves. Production/writing is completely phoning it in, talent has no desire to actually stand up for themselves and say, "No, this shit is terrible." The McMahons are completely lost. Just completely lost.
This is bad.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 9, 2016 8:42:18 GMT -5
This marks the only time in my life I've rated Raw a 1. Last night's show was an atrocity. It's almost like they had no actual idea what they were doing. I can't even begin to list what I hated about that show tonight. I found myself turning the channel to watch the Olympics' men's synchronized diving. I don't think there is anyone currently working for WWE that can or should be proud of that show last night. Raw was terrible last night. The only glimmer of enjoyment I got came in the very first segment. Then, I thought about it... why is Owens' acting like Jericho's lackey? Why are Cass and Enzo feuding with JerichOwens to begin with, because Jericho tried to C*ck block Enzo? Unbelievable. Every single person working on that show should be ashamed of themselves. Production/writing is completely phoning it in, talent has no desire to actually stand up for themselves and say, "No, this shit is terrible." The McMahons are completely lost. Just completely lost. This is bad. What I find very interesting honestly, is how these shows started, compared to how they are now in just three weeks. RAW started out guns blazing with the RATED NUMBER ONE SHOW OF THE YEAR, it was 10's all around, while Smackdown was kinda meh and their roster thinness was showing.
In these past three weeks, RAW's three hours are showing, and they seem to be deviating further and further from what made Week One so god damn good despite the three hours, with more padding, more talking, and somehow leaving talent like Zayn and Jax off the show! On top of really short, throwaway matches that don't add jack shit to a feud.
Depending on this week, Smackdown seems to actually be learning from the week one mehness, they beat RAW last week in peoples opinions, and they may pummel them this week with a solid enough performance.
The Momentum has completely swung.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 9:07:15 GMT -5
2, mainly because I see character development with Gallows & Anderson. And Bubba is pissed with D-Von. Otherwise, it was just a dull, lifeless mess I swear I've seen before.
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Post by bootytea on Aug 9, 2016 10:05:02 GMT -5
Only parts of the show I enjoyed were the Sheamus/Cesaro rematch, the Rusev/Lana debacle and Luke and Anderson showing some personality.
I knew right away when they started the show with Enzo and Cass that it would be crap. I'm already seeing people turn on these guys much quicker than they did with Santino. Lol.
Really bad RAW. They have yet to do a RAW on par with the first RAW post draft.
The company is clearly reluctant to make consistent change and revert back to their old habits in full force.
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Post by KofiMania on Aug 9, 2016 10:58:33 GMT -5
Think this one's gonna need an asterisk at the end of the week. Lizuka's doing different tallys this week both including and not including the troll 10's so all is well really. You should eliminate the 1's too then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 11:01:22 GMT -5
I don't see what the point is in invalidating 1s. Aside from Braun squashing a guy who didn't want to even be in the ring with him, I didn't exactly enjoy the show (Jericho/Owens are gay, Roman the Wedding Crasher, G-gu-gu-Golden Truth, everything with New Day) that much. This is incredible, considering 2 weeks ago, they had a hot episode, while SmackDown started pretty badly, but has slowly simmered into a better product.
I think I've made my choice as to what show I'll be following post-Summerslam.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 9, 2016 11:03:36 GMT -5
People voted 1's to troll in the other threads and they were counted. ![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Helms_@_Wrestlemania_Axxess_2009_cropped.jpg) Just saying...
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Post by Branimal on Aug 9, 2016 11:07:03 GMT -5
I loved the last two weeks' installments of RAW but I was so tired last night and a little burned out from all the wrestling I've been watching that I decided to skip it. I'm glad I did. I can't believe they're going right back to "you win one, I win one" booking with the former PTP. Reading the results, it sounds like we're back to phoning it in folks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 12:06:16 GMT -5
I'm just saying you're over rating a 4 out of 10 or 5 out of 10 show with a 1 out of 10 because WWE has been pretty damn good since Battleground and the first bad show literally feels like the worst show of all time.
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Post by The Yes Man on Aug 9, 2016 13:16:44 GMT -5
Extremely boring. Other than building Finn vs Seth, and JeriKO vs E and C, I was bored to death. They had a chance to save it at the end by giving Cesaro the US Title but of course, nope.
I give it a 4.
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Post by canal on Aug 9, 2016 13:25:11 GMT -5
Maybe 90 minute Hulu version helped, I gave it a 4. Apparently Enzo and Big Cass are indeed facing Jericho and Owens at Summerslam. Who knew? It kind of a drag but the open and main event were good and there was lots of Rusev. Of course, this was offset by too much Roman Reigns and Sheamus.
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Post by Abdullah on Aug 9, 2016 13:48:09 GMT -5
I thought the seven pages would all just be ragging on RAW. It'd be deserved. Let's see if the "good Raw" pattern holds: Week 1: Raw was awesome! Week 2: Not as good, but still pretty great. Week 3: Um... Okay... Maybe they just had an off week. Week 4: Back to the status quo. We're right on schedule. Next week is gonna suck.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 9, 2016 13:52:35 GMT -5
3/10.
The worst show of the "new era" so far.
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 9, 2016 14:01:05 GMT -5
I'm voting 3. Really, the only thing that saved it from being a 1 was having Cesaro in 2 matches, plus Rusev being awesome.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Aug 9, 2016 14:12:00 GMT -5
Wait, I wanna pick this one part out... CJB a big boy, I'm sure he's fine. But everybody hurts......sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 15:11:01 GMT -5
I'm just saying you're over rating a 4 out of 10 or 5 out of 10 show with a 1 out of 10 because WWE has been pretty damn good since Battleground and the first bad show literally feels like the worst show of all time. I didn't even watch Raw last week, didn't really care for the first post-draft SmackDown, and thought the draft SmackDown was trash. This one in my view was just an awful, dull mess of a show where not much made sense, I didn't care about any of it, and it felt like it was taking an eternity to end. There's really nothing I found redeemable about this one personally.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Aug 10, 2016 19:36:36 GMT -5
The 10s are invalid but the 1s aren't?
To suggest this was a 1 show any more than it was a 10 show...that's basically saying the 6s and up are wrong because they were closer to a 10 than the 1 that the biased poll-producer is raving about.
If that show was a 1, then Baylee versus Sasha was about a 5 out of 10.
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