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Post by thechase on Jul 6, 2024 9:44:40 GMT -5
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 6, 2024 10:30:59 GMT -5
Justice Society (their most continuously delayed book) recently also retconned out Bendis' entire Legion of Superheroes run. So I basically gave up on DC a long time ago, but I have been following this because I was a big fan of Geoff Johns JSA back in the 00's. Was there ever any explanation given anywhere else on why Yolanda Montez and Beth Chapel are alive again?
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 6, 2024 11:57:30 GMT -5
Usually once a month her and I will go out thrifting. And I know which locations got comics. So while she tries to find variants of the Disney DVDs or Blu Rays I will dig thru boxes usually stuffed with 90s Glut comics. You can judge how good a longbox wwill be by home many copies of Tribe#1 are in it. Or how many copies of Turok there are Not sure why this is happening. For decades every cheap bin of comics would have piles of Turok#1 and Bloodshot #1. Now they are not in the cheap bins I keep seeing. Not sure if supply locally ran out finally. Or maybe they are not dollar books anymore? Knew a few people on one comic forum that used those 2 as packing material when they mailed out comics.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jul 6, 2024 19:38:55 GMT -5
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 6, 2024 19:42:32 GMT -5
Starman was my favorite book back in the 90's, but even with Robinson and Harris on board, I'm still not seeing any good come from this.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jul 7, 2024 16:22:05 GMT -5
Justice Society (their most continuously delayed book) recently also retconned out Bendis' entire Legion of Superheroes run. Whatever happened to Bendis? Guy was the biggest name in comics not too long ago, don’t hear nothing about him now.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 7, 2024 18:21:23 GMT -5
Justice Society (their most continuously delayed book) recently also retconned out Bendis' entire Legion of Superheroes run. Whatever happened to Bendis? Guy was the biggest name in comics not too long ago, don’t hear nothing about him now. DC made a big show about snagging him from Marvel, he did a complete mess of a run on Superman and then decided to quit in favor of more creator owned work.
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 7, 2024 19:29:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty live and let live with bad comic runs. Every run comes to an end and half of it gets retconned eventually, so I find it easy to gloss over and move on from bad writing.
Bendis' style of writing and some of the decisions he made in that Superman run really tested my resolve on that though. Aging up Jon Kent still annoys the hell out of me, lol
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 7, 2024 19:32:32 GMT -5
So just read a second printing of Venom Lethal Protector #1,the modern one.
Not bad. Hum Bug is a neat one to dig up. But I hate how most modern comics are colored.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jul 7, 2024 21:33:43 GMT -5
Aging up Jon Kent still annoys the hell out of me, lol But Jon would age eventually. Right? ... Right?
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Jul 8, 2024 0:21:26 GMT -5
Or how many copies of Turok there are Not sure why this is happening. For decades every cheap bin of comics would have piles of Turok#1 and Bloodshot #1. Now they are not in the cheap bins I keep seeing. Not sure if supply locally ran out finally. Or maybe they are not dollar books anymore? Knew a few people on one comic forum that used those 2 as packing material when they mailed out comics. Overprinted, so people who had the stock wouldn't keep them in good condition? Which makes them harder to find in mint condition now? Are they worth anything yet? Just curious: I have a couple of old comics from Marvel that are a 'free preview' of the upcoming year, and one has a preview of Star Wars: Crimson Empire. Then the Star Wars franchise moved from Marvel to Dark Horse. So the preview was (for a while) the last Star Wars thing that Marvel published. Wonder if that ever was worth anything?
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Post by thechase on Jul 8, 2024 0:56:57 GMT -5
Aging up Jon Kent still annoys the hell out of me, lol But Jon would age eventually. Right? ... Right? Yeah, but ideally it probably shouldn't have been for a decade or so. But then, Connor aged too and when they brought HIM back, he was in his late teens again, now he seems closer to how he looked in the late 2000s as part of the extended family. Zod's son, Val, aka Chris Kent, Jon's predecessor, was aged up also, then aged down again, and went from good to evil. I doubt they'll ever deage Jon now that they made him openly Bi and gave him a boyfriend, it would be seen as retreating from all that and the optics are just not pleasant.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 8, 2024 3:39:13 GMT -5
In general Jon just seems like such a pointless character aged up. He had a niche before but now he’s just clutter.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 8, 2024 9:53:49 GMT -5
In general Jon just seems like such a pointless character aged up. He had a niche before but now he’s just clutter. Bendis took a beloved character and turned him uninteresting and bland. Now everyone who writes Jon walks on eggshells because they're terrified to try and unravel any of the damage that Bendis did to the character. Tom Taylor, who is writing the excellent Nightwing run, had six issues with modern Jon and the greatest sin was it was boring and inconsequential. Like Jon since they took away watching him grow up from us for a gimmick (aging him up) and backing him into a corner (his bland, uninteresting boyfriend) romantically. There are plenty of options for Jon to date someone, anyone of any gender, that isn't as boring as his current boyfriend. It's gonna take a Crisis as an excuse to get Jon's shit in order, I think.
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 8, 2024 10:26:02 GMT -5
Yeah, Jon would have aged but at a more natural pace and it would have given DC more time to figure out what they were going to do with him. Now we've got Jon with one foot in Clark's space and one foot in Conner's.
Plus, getting rid of the younger supersons dynamic with Damian Wayne just seems really dumb to me. If you wanted to get younger readers hooked, then the shenanigans of Jon and Damian seemed tailor made to do it. DC still go back to that occasionally but it would work better if it was still current canon, IMO.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 8, 2024 10:29:26 GMT -5
Yeah, Jon would have aged but at a more natural pace and it would have given DC more time to figure out what they were going to do with him. Now we've got Jon with one foot in Clark's space and one foot in Conner's. Plus, getting rid of the younger supersons dynamic with Damian Wayne just seems really dumb to me. If you wanted to get younger readers hooked, then the shenanigans of Jon and Damian seemed tailor made to do it. DC still go back to that occasionally but it would work better if it was still current canon, IMO. I read the backups in King's Wonder Woman and see how Jon and Damian are with Diana's daughter Lizzie and I find it offensive that we missed out on seeing a new Trinity grow up together and instead only get the two older brothers and wild little sister dynamic. I assume DC is afraid to deage Jon because they may get backlash for "taking away" bi-representation, but the problem is that as he is now, Jon is just not as interesting as an adult yet.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 8, 2024 10:43:39 GMT -5
Honestly, like, he can still be clearly bi even as a kid (hell, the kid superhero comic I do the oldest of the kids is a lesbian) and it's not like that same reason stopped them from erasing Obsidian from existence for a decade. Just fix the character.
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Post by thechase on Jul 8, 2024 10:49:12 GMT -5
Honestly, like, he can still be clearly bi even as a kid and it's not like that same reason stopped them from erasing Obsidian from existence for a decade. Just fix the character. See, I don't think it's wise to show a bi-sexual kid because there's a strong chance you'll attract a load of pedos to the book. Jon simply shouldn't have a romance period.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 8, 2024 10:51:59 GMT -5
Honestly, like, he can still be clearly bi even as a kid and it's not like that same reason stopped them from erasing Obsidian from existence for a decade. Just fix the character. See, I don't think it's wise to show a bi-sexual kid because there's a strong chance you'll attract a load of pedos to the book. Jon simply shouldn't have a romance period. Meh. No one bats an eye at puppy love when it’s a boy and a girl, why should two boys be different?
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 8, 2024 11:55:09 GMT -5
As much as I hate it, I'm not surprised that haven't de-aged Jon yet. Some stuff has to stick and they gave the Supers their secret identities back already, which was the other big Bendis idea.
Jon does need to be careful though because if he punches the wrong part of the universe he might find himself back in middle school.
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