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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 28, 2016 21:27:48 GMT -5
Man, Civil War II was just DUMB. Considering nothing in the X-Men relaunch looks interesting to me, which means I can skip this Inhumans vs X-Men book, I'd say I'm off the Marvel events again. With Black Widow ending in a couple months, I think I'm at my lowest number of Marvel titles in years.
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Post by Talent Name on Dec 28, 2016 21:29:14 GMT -5
I have been getting into Old Man Logan and its pretty depressing
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 28, 2016 21:59:30 GMT -5
I have been getting into Old Man Logan and its pretty depressing I didn't care for the original Millar arc nor Bendis' volume. It just feels like someone thought that Wolverine needed his own Dark Knight Returns.
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Post by Talent Name on Dec 28, 2016 22:08:15 GMT -5
I have been getting into Old Man Logan and its pretty depressing I didn't care for the original Millar arc nor Bendis' volume. It just feels like someone thought that Wolverine needed his own Dark Knight Returns. The Jeff Lemire stuff is actually really good and knowing the miniseries is what makes it depressing
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Dec 29, 2016 1:36:31 GMT -5
Man, Civil War II was just DUMB. Considering nothing in the X-Men relaunch looks interesting to me, which means I can skip this Inhumans vs X-Men book, I'd say I'm off the Marvel events again. With Black Widow ending in a couple months, I think I'm at my lowest number of Marvel titles in years. I find it kinda funny it basically just ended with a bunch of teasers for more infinitely interesting events (not saying that any of those would be good, but they look a hell of a lot more better than CW2).
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 29, 2016 2:15:06 GMT -5
I have been getting into Old Man Logan and its pretty depressing I don't really read the comics, but watching a lot of Comics Explained on youtube the sense I get from a real comic geek is that Wolverine unless written by Chris Claremont is kind of a one dimension character i.e. point wolverine at a bad guy and destroy. However, with Old Man Logan there's some layers there although apparently are pretty depressing. Honestly I'm eagerly waiting the return of regular Wolverine.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Dec 29, 2016 3:19:35 GMT -5
I didn't care for the original Millar arc nor Bendis' volume. It just feels like someone thought that Wolverine needed his own Dark Knight Returns. The Jeff Lemire stuff is actually really good and knowing the miniseries is what makes it depressing Lemire took a character who I was tired of by 91 and made him interesting again. Old Man Logan and Dr Strange are the only superhero titles from the big two I pick up each month. Read 3 comics tonight. Dark Knight III the Master Race #07-Yeah I know most fans hate Miller now and think DK II was total crap. I loved DK II and am loving this sequel. After how the previous issue ended I kind of figured out how they would resolve that cliffhanger. The Black Hood Season 2 #02-The best superhero title that no one talks about. Loved how they included an early 80s Black Hood story as a bonus this issue. The PUnisher Kills the Marvel Universe-Yeah I know should have read this years ago. Being a huge Ennis and Punisher fan. A well done and seemingly well thought out story idea that gets taken to it's natural conclusion.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Dec 29, 2016 8:38:42 GMT -5
More adoribleness from RYV
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Dec 29, 2016 19:45:58 GMT -5
Comic Book Resources is currently putting out a list, shocker, of the top 100 comic book runs based on a survey of 1,000 people. There are some nuggets featured that I've never read but would like to. The list of released titles (so far) (spoilered for size): www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-100-91/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}100. Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie’s “Wicked + Divine” – 86 points (4 first place votes) 99. Jason Aaron and R.M. Guera’s “Scalped” – 90 points (3 first place votes) 98. Daniel Clowes’ “Eightball” – 92 points (1 first place votes) 97. Joe Kelly’s “Deadpool” – 94 points (4 first place votes) 96. David Michelinie and Bob Layton’s “Iron Man” – 95 points (2 first place votes) 95. Denny O’Neil and Neal Adams’ “Green Lantern” – 96 points (3 first place votes) 94. Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch’s “Ultimates” – 98 points (2 first place votes) 93. Will Eisner’s “The Spirit” – 100 points (6 first place votes) 92. Warren Ellis and Stuart Immonen’s “Nextwave: Agents of HATE” – 101 points (3 first place votes) 91. Dan Slott’s “She-Hulk” – 102 points (2 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-90-81/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}90. Alan Moore’s “Supreme” – 104 points (3 first place votes) 89. Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips’ “Criminal” – 115 points (2 first place votes) 88. Alan Moore and J.H. Williams III’s “Promethea” – 120 points (5 first place votes) 87. Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang’s “Wonder Woman” – 122 points (1 first place vote) 86. Mark Gruenwald’s “Captain America” – 124 points (3 first place votes) 85. Denny O’Neil and Neal Adams’ “Batman” – 129 points (5 first place votes) 84. Frank Miller’s “Sin City” – 130 points (3 first place votes) 83. Peter Milligan and Chris Bachalo’s “Shade the Changing Man” – 131 points (4 first place votes) 82. Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso’s “100 Bullets” – 132 points (4 first place votes) 81. Steve Englehart, Marshall Rogers and Terry Austin’s “Detective Comics” – 137 points (3 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-80-71/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}80. Carl Barks’ Duck Comics – 138 points (5 first place votes) 79. Greg Rucka and Ed Brubaker’s “Gotham Central” – 139 points (4 first place votes) 78. Jack Kirby and Stan Lee’s “Thor” – 142 points (3 first place votes) 77. Grant Morrison’s “Invisibles” – 145 points (6 first place votes) 76. Brian Michael Bendis’ “Avengers” – 146 points (1 first place vote) 75. Peter Bagge’s “Hate” – 150 points (2 first place votes) 74. John Byrne’s “Superman” – 151 points (3 first place votes) 73. Tom King and Gabriel Henrandez Walta’s “Vision” – 152 points (5 first place votes) 72. Peter Milligan and Mike Allred’s “X-Force”/”X-Statix” – 154 points (1 first place vote) 71. Larry Hama’s initial run on “G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero” – 159 points (3 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-70-61/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}70. Chris Claremont’s “New Mutants” – 160 points (1 first place vote) 69. Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Gaydos’ “Alias” – 162 points (2 first place votes) 68. Chris Claremont and Dave Cockrum’s “X-Men” – 164 points (1 first place vote) 67. John Layman and Rob Guillory’s “Chew” – 167 points (1 first place vote) 66. Roy Thomas’ initial “Conan” run – 170 points 65. Robert Kirkman, Cory Walker and Ryan Ottley’s “Invincible” – 172 points (1 first place votes) 64. Denny O’Neil and Denys Cowan’s “The Question” – 176 points (4 first place votes) 63. Roger Stern and John Romita Jr.’s “Amazing Spider-Man” – 180 points (3 first place votes) 62. Los Bros Hernandez’s “Love and Rockets” – 191 points (8 first place votes) 61. Bryan Lee O’Malley’s “Scott Pilgrim” – 193 points (6 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-60-51/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}60. Robert Kirkman and Charles Adlard’s “The Walking Dead” – 195 points (2 first place votes) 59. Geoff Johns and Scott Kolins’ “Flash” – 202 points (5 first place votes) 58. Joe Locke and Gabriel Rodriguez’ “Locke and Key” – 209 points (6 first place votes) 57. Steve Ditko and Stan Lee’s “Doctor Strange” – 212 points (3 first place votes) 56. Dave Sim and Gerhard’s “Cerebus” – 230 points (8 first place votes) 55. Jim Starlin’s “Warlock” – 238 points (2 first place votes) 54. Jack Kirby’s “Fourth World” – 250 points (5 first place votes) 53. Alan Moore’s “Marvelman”/”Miracleman” – 252 points (6 first place votes) 52. Roy Thomas’ “Avengers” – 261 points (10 first place votes) 51. Mike Mignola’s “Hellboy” – 265 points (3 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-50-41/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}50. Garth Ennis and John McCrea’s “Hitman” – 270 points (2 first place votes) 49. G. Willow Wilson and Adrian Alphona’s “Ms. Marvel” – 272 points (4 first place votes) 48. Geoff Johns’ “JSA” – 274 points (3 first place votes) 47. Grant Morrison’s “Animal Man” – 280 points (3 first place votes) 46. Matt Fraction and David Aja’s “Hawkeye” – 285 points (2 first place votes) 45. Roger Stern’s “Avengers” – 290 points (7 first place votes) 44. Stan Lee and John Romita’s “Amazing Spider-Man” – 302 points (2 first place votes) 43. Kurt Busiek and George Perez’s “Avengers” – 306 points (5 first place votes) 42. Garth Ennis’ “Punisher” – 310 points (2 first place votes) 41. Jeff Smith’s “Bone” – 312 points (5 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-40-31/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}40. Warren Ellis, Darick Robertson and Rodney Ramos’ “Transmetropolitan” – 322 points (6 first place votes) 39. Dan Slott’s “Amazing Spider-Man”/”Superior Spider-Man” – 325 points (8 first place votes) 38. Peter David’s “Incredible Hulk” – 332 points (4 first place votes) 37. Bill Willingham, Mark Buckingham and Steve Leialoha’s “Fables” – 340 points (5 first place votes) 36. Mark Waid’s first “Flash” run – 341 points (3 first place votes) 35. John Ostrander’s “Suicide Squad” – 344 points (10 first place votes) 34. Jason Aaron’s “Thor” – 350 points (6 first place votes) 33. Grant Morrison’s “Doom Patrol” – 361 points (4 first place votes) 32. Mark Waid’s “Daredevil” – 376 points (2 first place votes) 31. Kurt Busiek and Brent Anderson’s “Astro City” – 402 points (14 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-30-21/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}30. Paul Levitz, Keith Giffen and Larry Mahlstedt’s “Legion of Super-Heroes” – 414 points (10 first place votes) 29. Rick Remender’s “Uncanny X-Force” – 416 points (4 first place votes) 28. Peter David’s second “X-Factor” run – 418 points (6 first place votes) 27. Jonathan Hickman’s “Avengers” – 419 points (5 first place votes) 26. Brian K. Vaughan and Fiona Staples’ “Saga” – 521 points (10 first place votes) 25. Keith Giffen and J.M. DeMatteis’ “Justice League International” – 525 points (8 first place votes) 24. Warren Ellis and John Cassaday’s “Planetary” – 535 points (6 first place votes) 23. Joss Whedon and John Cassaday’s “Astonishing X-Men” – 570 points (7 first place votes) 22. Brian Michael Bendis and Alex Maleev’s “Daredevil” – 585 points (8 first place votes) 21. Brian Michael Bendis’ “Ultimate Spider-Man” – 590 points (10 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-20-16/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}20. Ed Brubaker’s “Captain America” – 612 points (3 first place votes) 19. John Byrne’s “Fantastic Four” – 620 points (4 first place votes) 18. James Robinson’s “Starman” – 622 points (9 first place votes) 17. Jonathan Hickman’s “Fantastic Four” – 630 points (8 first place votes) 16. Grant Morrison’s “New X-Men” – 634 points (3 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-15-11/{Spoiler}{Spoiler}15. Marv Wolfman and George Perez’s “New Teen Titans” – 651 points (9 first place votes) 14. Grant Morrison, Howard Porter and John Dell’s “JLA” – 661 points (4 first place votes) 13. Brian K. Vaughan, Pia Guerra and Jose Marzan Jr.’s “Y the Last Man” – 665 points (12 first place votes) 12. Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon’s “Preacher” – 790 points (16 first place votes) 11. Chris Claremont’s post-Byrne/Cockrum “Uncanny X-Men” – 795 points (21 first place votes)
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Dec 29, 2016 21:25:24 GMT -5
I really enjoy Action Comics, but this arc they've got to stop saying the same two things over and over. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Lex will be a bad guy! But he isn't yet! But he will be! You don't know that! Yuh-huh, I do! No you don't! Do too!
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 29, 2016 22:34:29 GMT -5
I know lists are always subjective, but Carl Barks is WAY too low on that CBR list.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 30, 2016 2:37:43 GMT -5
Who are these voters anyway? Who are the three people who say, "I like Alan Moore and his best work was definitely for Image comics?" Or that one voter who said Claremont's New Mutants is the best book ever, I want to meet that guy. I loved those New Mutants but damn I couldn't put them as a top ten even. I mean do you think its honest voting or people trying to game a weighted system?
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Dec 30, 2016 4:27:13 GMT -5
Who are these voters anyway? Who are the three people who say, "I like Alan Moore and his best work was definitely for Image comics?" Or that one voter who said Claremont's New Mutants is the best book ever, I want to meet that guy. I loved those New Mutants but damn I couldn't put them as a top ten even. I mean do you think its honest voting or people trying to game a weighted system? Rules for the voting were posted on CBR a month ago. www.cbr.com/vote-for-the-100-top-comic-book-runs/So I suppose people could have created dummy e-mail accounts to spam their favourites? But polls like these are never scientific, and any survey result that relies on self-selection should be taken with a grain of salt, so why would people bother. Plus, art can't be quantified, so people shouldn't get so bent, I would hope, when a particular book they really like doesn't make the cut. I recently finished reading Starman and Gotham Central, so I wish that would those would have ranked higher. However, what were fresh reading experiences for me are series that likely were been there, done that for others, I'm guessing. CBR's rankings are an incomplete snapshot of people's tastes at a particular moment in time. They shouldn't really be treated any more than that. These kinds of lists are always about generating conversation anyway--what should be included, what should be excluded, what should be placed higher or lower, etc. For example, why haven't any European or manga books been listed thus far? Why aren't there more women creators featured? Why is there a relative lack of indie books compared to DC and Marvel entries? That's the granular kind of stuff that's worth talking about (at the very least, just to get exposed to new books!). Knowing that Gaiman's Sandman is probably going to be #1 (again) is not as fun in comparison.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Dec 30, 2016 13:37:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 20:10:13 GMT -5
My favorite quote of my new comics this week:
"Ya gotta admit, if I didn't grab your Kryptonian balls, we never woulda saved the day" - Harley Quinn talking to Superman, Harkey's Little Black Book #5
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Post by sternrogers01 on Dec 31, 2016 10:46:32 GMT -5
So um, yeah, I'm a bit worried about Rebirth after reading Titans {Spoiler}Wally's basically told by the Speed Force that he needs to relinquish his pre-flashpoint memories and embrace the New 52 era in order to save his teammates and learn to properly build a new relationship with the Linda that exists presently. I liked the story, but the idea the older reality is no longer considered "real" by forces existing outside of time and space just sours me on the fact we'll never see Wally's kids again Axel Alonzo reveals that 2017 will hint at a larger plan in place for Marvel's classic characters www.cbr.com/interview-axel-alonso-looks-back-at-marvels-2016-details-whats-next/
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Post by Jiren on Dec 31, 2016 11:04:14 GMT -5
So um, yeah, I'm a bit worried about Rebirth after reading Titans {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Wally's basically told by the Speed Force that he needs to relinquish his pre-flashpoint memories and embrace the New 52 era in order to save his teammates and learn to properly build a new relationship with the Linda that exists presently. I liked the story, but the idea the older reality is no longer considered "real" by forces existing outside of time and space just sours me on the fact we'll never see Wally's kids again {Spoiler}It'll just be a story, He'll tell them to sit on it and somehow fix it himself. DC will destroy ANY goodwill they've built with rebirth if they revert to Nu52. DC won't be that stupid........
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Post by sternrogers01 on Dec 31, 2016 18:27:54 GMT -5
MJ lets her hair down while in costume in future issues of RYV
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jan 1, 2017 0:44:50 GMT -5
Comic Book Resources' top 10. www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-10-6/{Spoiler}10. Geoff Johns’ “Green Lantern” – 812 points (24 first place votes) 9. Walter Simonson’s “Thor” – 887 points (19 first place votes) 8. Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo’s “Batman” – 1019 points (20 first place votes) 7. Grant Morrison’s “Batman” – 1036 points (22 first place votes) 6. Steve Ditko and Stan Lee’s “Spider-Man” – 1242 points (25 first place votes) www.cbr.com/2016-top-100-comic-book-runs-5-1/{Spoiler}5. Jack Kirby and Stan Lee’s “Fantastic Four” – 1260 points (32 first place votes) 4. Alan Moore’s “Swamp Thing” – 1311 points (39 first place votes) 3. Frank Miller and Klaus Janson’s “Daredevil” – 1449 points (28 first place votes) 2. Neil Gaiman’s “Sandman” – 1474 points (40 first place votes) 1. John Byrne, Chris Claremont and Terry Austin’s “X-Men” – 2356 points (55 first place votes) I am kind of surprised, but also kind of not surprised, that Akira and Tintin didn't show up somewhere in this ranking (Tintin in the lower end, Akira as top 40?).
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 1, 2017 1:34:04 GMT -5
So um, yeah, I'm a bit worried about Rebirth after reading Titans {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Wally's basically told by the Speed Force that he needs to relinquish his pre-flashpoint memories and embrace the New 52 era in order to save his teammates and learn to properly build a new relationship with the Linda that exists presently. I liked the story, but the idea the older reality is no longer considered "real" by forces existing outside of time and space just sours me on the fact we'll never see Wally's kids again Axel Alonzo reveals that 2017 will hint at a larger plan in place for Marvel's classic characters www.cbr.com/interview-axel-alonso-looks-back-at-marvels-2016-details-whats-next/I really don't like Axel. I almost dislike him as much as I disliked Dan DiDio in the mid-2000's. Nothing he says sounds genuine, ever. He actually reminds me a lot of WWE trying to spin the Roman booing into "any reaction is a good reaction". No dude, people are reacting poorly because you let Bendis drop a huge turd after hyping up a game-changing event. Anyway, I'm off to Marvel Unlimited to continue reading Chris Claremont's X-run.
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