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Post by thechase on Sept 12, 2024 10:12:42 GMT -5
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 12, 2024 21:53:17 GMT -5
Had a reread of Superior Spider-Man and the Superior Foes spinoff
Great run. Ended at the right moment I think as it was just starting to drag a bit and get repetitive. But a pretty ballsy decision to shelve Parker for that long and make the storyline work rather than rush it to get Parker back as soon as possible. I liked that in some ways, Spider-Ock did better than Spider-Man.
Parker's return was great. Those four panels with the Goblin where Parker mocked his manbag and Goblin realised that Parker was back in control.
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Post by thechase on Sept 13, 2024 0:34:47 GMT -5
Superiors is so overrated. One of the most mean-spirited runs of any Spider-Man story, and everyone was made to look like an idiot who couldn't tell Peter wasn't acting himself.
And the ending actually only came about because Marvel DID want to rush Peter back into the part so the comics could relaunch around the same time as the Amazing Spider-Man 2 movie was coming out. Slott wanted to keep Ock as Spidey far longer.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 13, 2024 5:23:54 GMT -5
Parker's return was great. Those four panels with the Goblin where Parker mocked his manbag and Goblin realised that Parker was back in control. that is a great page. Norman goes on a rant mocking Doctor Octopus... Spidey just says that he never did it with a man purse... and Goblin's eyes lower into just utter hatred... after one line.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 13, 2024 8:49:30 GMT -5
Superior Spiderman was an interesting idea that just got dragged out entirely too long. Superior Foes on the other hand didn't go long enough.
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Post by Talent Name on Sept 13, 2024 9:39:25 GMT -5
I just hate the fact every few years they gotta bring Superior Spider back
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 13, 2024 11:59:53 GMT -5
Superior Spiderman was an interesting idea that just got dragged out entirely too long. Superior Foes on the other hand didn't go long enough. I can see how at the time it would have dragged--it was, what three years? But reading it in one bulk it seemed just right. Built up Goblin Nation well and gave them time to develop and then ended at the right time bringing Spidey back to defeat his main foe. Superior Foes was excellent. I really wish that became a permanent title.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Sept 13, 2024 15:17:37 GMT -5
Superior Foes on the other hand didn't go long enough. It's too bad that Spencer and Lieber couldn't keep that magic going on another comic, The Fix. At least Superior Foes got an ending.
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Post by thechase on Sept 14, 2024 2:40:36 GMT -5
Superior Foes on the other hand didn't go long enough. It's too bad that Spencer and Lieber couldn't keep that magic going on another comic, The Fix. At least Superior Foes got an ending. And Spencer's run on Amazing Spider-Man is a direct follow-up.
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Post by thechase on Sept 14, 2024 2:45:22 GMT -5
I just hate the fact every few years they gotta bring Superior Spider back The most recent attempt was just bizzare. Slott clearly wasn't allowed to make Otto Superior again so the whole relaunch tried a dozen or so different takes on what a 'Superior' Spidey was...from Peter pretending to be Otto, wearing his suit and leading his minions, to Bailey the Spider-Boy being possessed by a back-up of Otto's personality, to all of New York being infected by spiders that carried Otto's intellect inside of them...and then it just ends with Otto sacrificing all of his memories to stop it all, making the whole book pointless. At least it ended with Anna Maria coming to respect Otto again and having faith he can be redeemed. Hope we see her again, even if Slott's said recently he's retiring as a Doc Ock writer.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Sept 15, 2024 14:04:00 GMT -5
So my oldest has discovered that Marvel Team up vol 1 is just goofy fun. Been telling him to read it since he was about 8 and now 20+ years later he is.
Gotta track down the few issues not in the Essentials for him. I know I got at least a few of them in the extras box.
Just fun Spidey teams with whoever stories.
Really after about issue 150 of Amazing this is the only other spiderman stuff I find myself going back and reading again. Might just be that most of my childhood I read Marvel team Up and Marvel tales every issue. Jusst find those two eras of Spidey the only ones I enjoy.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 16, 2024 5:12:59 GMT -5
So after reading Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Verse and accosiated titles.
I have continued with Amazing Spider-Man 2015. Wow, does this series take an absolute nosedive. They've pretty much removed all of what made Peter Parker and turned him into Tony Stark-Lite. A CEO with a global empire, jet-setting across the world, using a host of gadgets and gizmos and robots etc.
Plus the main villain group, Zodiac, are a giant f***ing bore.
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Post by thechase on Sept 16, 2024 5:59:14 GMT -5
Yeah, this is the nadir of Slott's run. Dude was checked out and just playing with action figures by this point. He's openly admitted that he was only on the title post-Superior to break records held by previous ASM writers for longest-stint on the book
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Sept 16, 2024 18:14:56 GMT -5
So after reading Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Verse and accosiated titles. I have continued with Amazing Spider-Man 2015. Wow, does this series take an absolute nosedive. They've pretty much removed all of what made Peter Parker and turned him into Tony Stark-Lite. A CEO with a global empire, jet-setting across the world, using a host of gadgets and gizmos and robots etc. Plus the main villain group, Zodiac, are a giant f***ing bore. I get people want Peter to not be an eternal loser, but turning him into Temu Tony Stark wasn't the course correction needed.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 16, 2024 18:17:03 GMT -5
I've always thought that Superior was a completely stupid idea that never should've happened. Only good thing I can say about it is I like the suit.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 16, 2024 18:23:43 GMT -5
So after reading Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Verse and accosiated titles. I have continued with Amazing Spider-Man 2015. Wow, does this series take an absolute nosedive. They've pretty much removed all of what made Peter Parker and turned him into Tony Stark-Lite. A CEO with a global empire, jet-setting across the world, using a host of gadgets and gizmos and robots etc. Plus the main villain group, Zodiac, are a giant f***ing bore. I get people want Peter to not be an eternal loser, but turning him into Temu Tony Stark wasn't the course correction needed. JMS had him become a researcher at NYU. It was a brilliant idea that was naturally scorched along with everything else he did as soon as he left.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Sept 16, 2024 18:26:30 GMT -5
I've always thought that Superior was a completely stupid idea that never should've happened. Only good thing I can say about it is I like the suit. Personally hated reading a book where we're seeing the villain win and just flaunt his victory under everyone's noses and everyone acting like idiots like they can't tell something is different about Peter.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 16, 2024 18:28:18 GMT -5
I've always thought that Superior was a completely stupid idea that never should've happened. Only good thing I can say about it is I like the suit. Personally hated reading a book where we're seeing the villain win and just flaunt his victory under everyone's noses and everyone acting like idiots like they can't tell something is different about Peter. As a 6 issue arc it would have been fine. As a 30 plus issue story that went a year and a half it rivaled "Lol Hogan Wins!" WCW misery booking.
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Post by thechase on Sept 17, 2024 0:45:37 GMT -5
So after reading Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Verse and accosiated titles. I have continued with Amazing Spider-Man 2015. Wow, does this series take an absolute nosedive. They've pretty much removed all of what made Peter Parker and turned him into Tony Stark-Lite. A CEO with a global empire, jet-setting across the world, using a host of gadgets and gizmos and robots etc. Plus the main villain group, Zodiac, are a giant f***ing bore. I get people want Peter to not be an eternal loser, but turning him into Temu Tony Stark wasn't the course correction needed. Only editorial want the 'core' Peter to be an eternal loser. As soon as they gave the public a series where Peter was a middle-aged rookie hero with a happy marriage and two kids (Ultimate Spider-Man), the readers haven't ceased eating it up, it outsells ASM on a monthly basis.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 17, 2024 1:36:32 GMT -5
I get people want Peter to not be an eternal loser, but turning him into Temu Tony Stark wasn't the course correction needed. They should have just kept the middle ground of him running Parker Industries as a successful tech start up, without making it this massive global corporation. That would have kept him as a success, but also kept him grounded enough to remain the same old relateable Peter Parker. Plus, I did like the supporting cast of Parker Industries--Anna Marie, Living Brain and Clayton were all a fun supporting cast.
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