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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Feb 11, 2017 3:15:57 GMT -5
15. One More Day....I can see why this is hated, but it was actually really well written by JMS, and had really great art by Joe Quesada. I don't know....it just seemed a really harsh way to go back to the pre marriage status quo, but it, in itself, wasn't bad.
14. Secret Wars II....It had its moments, and some of the crossover issues were actually pretty great, but the mini itself was pretty Bleugh, and definitely deserves its place on this list.
13. Infinite Crisis....I liked Infinite Crisis, so, Boo putting it on this list.
12. Secret Invasion....This started out well, but Bendis did his typical thing in the end; instead of showing the Big Fight he was building to, just showing recaps of what happened while two characters talk (at great length) over it instead. IOW, good start, but a LAME ending.
11. Maximum Carnage.....F**k that! Maximum Carnage kicked ass. Probably the best Spider-Man centered event of the 90's.
10. Civil War II.....haven't read it yet, but, yeah, seemed to just happen for the sake of happening (and because a movie of the first CIVIL WAR had been made).
9. The Amalgam Universe.....Whaaaaaa?!? I liked this as well. Some pretty awesome comics came out of this.
8. Captain America: Reborn....Never read it, so.....
7. DC vs. Marvel....It was fun, even though I agree that some of the matchups shouldn't have been left up to the readers to vote on.
6. Flashpoint....never read it, but figured it was yet another attempt to clean up the mess that DC's continuity had become at that point.
5. Ultimatum.....never read it, but, once again, heard terrible things that made me not want to even bother.
4. The Clone Saga.....kind of the opposite of SECRET INVASION....it was crappy until the ending.
3. Superior Spider-Man....Never read, but seemed like a stunt that went on way too long.
2. Death of Superman....Nah, once again, this was decent. Of course, it was still during that period when comic companies took death somewhat seriously, so, I can imagine why many felt cheated that Supes' death was merely a plot device to reaffirm his importance.
1. Onslaught....It had its flaws (Copping out on the whole "Evil Xaiver" idea, and a rushed ending that led to HEROES REBORN), but the worst event ever?!? Bullshit.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 11, 2017 4:08:13 GMT -5
I agree, Maximum Carnage was a great event, I actually beleived they killed off Dagger until the penultimate chapter. Carnage never took to quite the same heights again until Conway's ongoing. And looks like more of N52 is being jettisoned, Wonder Woman's Annual will apparently tell a new version of how Diana met Bruce and Clark
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 11, 2017 6:11:49 GMT -5
15. One More Day....I can see why this is hated, but it was actually really well written by JMS, and had really great art by Joe Quesada. I don't know....it just seemed a really harsh way to go back to the pre marriage status quo, but it, in itself, wasn't bad. It still turns down to Spider-man literally sells his marriage to the devil. That's a terrible basis for a story.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 11, 2017 8:13:35 GMT -5
15. One More Day....I can see why this is hated, but it was actually really well written by JMS, and had really great art by Joe Quesada. I don't know....it just seemed a really harsh way to go back to the pre marriage status quo, but it, in itself, wasn't bad. It still turns down to Spider-man literally sells his marriage to the devil. That's a terrible basis for a story. Guy who's big thing is responsibility and being a hero even when you suffer making a literal deal with the devil is just not right.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 11, 2017 8:22:50 GMT -5
Not to mention the deal erased his future daughter from existing in the mainline reality, and retroactively prevented his first daughter from being conceived
While Marvel seem happy enough to remind us these days the devil deal happened, what they won't tell you is Peter is a baby killer.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 11, 2017 9:40:15 GMT -5
It still turns down to Spider-man literally sells his marriage to the devil. That's a terrible basis for a story. Guy who's big thing is responsibility and being a hero even when you suffer making a literal deal with the devil is just not right. also last night I forgot to mention the numerous plotholes that it created... because "it's magic we don't have to explain it".
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 11, 2017 11:38:31 GMT -5
Yeah still have zero desire to read heroes battling heroes. Add to the fact that I hate the Hydra Cap phase and this equals me continuing to stick with just DC for now. Such a shame as I was pulling more marvel comics for awhile then DC.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 11, 2017 11:41:11 GMT -5
Finally read the worst events list that got posted. Outside of Infinite Crisis it is pretty accurate. Death of Superman was horrible art and storywise,even though Reign of the Supermen,Funeral for a friend and Return of superman were good.
Not surprised Onslaught was #1 there are worse events but it was pretty bad. Surprised more of the shitty X-men related events like Fall of the Mutants and Inferno didn't show up.
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Feb 11, 2017 14:19:05 GMT -5
Superior Spidey being on there is a joke. Best Spidey story of the 2000's imo.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 11, 2017 14:43:42 GMT -5
Superior Spidey being on there is a joke. Best Spidey story of the 2000's imo. Go to bed Slott
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Feb 11, 2017 15:32:09 GMT -5
Superior Spidey being on there is a joke. Best Spidey story of the 2000's imo. Go to bed Slott COME TELL ME THAT ON TWITTER LIKE A REAL MAN!
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Feb 11, 2017 22:24:06 GMT -5
15. One More Day....I can see why this is hated, but it was actually really well written by JMS, and had really great art by Joe Quesada. I don't know....it just seemed a really harsh way to go back to the pre marriage status quo, but it, in itself, wasn't bad. It still turns down to Spider-man literally sells his marriage to the devil. That's a terrible basis for a story. Oh, I agree it was kind of a bad way to go back to the status quo before Peter and Mary Jane got married, but the event itself was well done. Besides, being a reader of the current stuff, you should know by now that nothing really means anything in most of today's comics. Stuff happens to just get potential reader attention, and then is just undone a few years later with no worry about how much more it's messing up continuity. That's why I don't get too worked up about it....it's also why I don't read too much of the current stuff.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Feb 11, 2017 22:35:17 GMT -5
Finally read the worst events list that got posted. Outside of Infinite Crisis it is pretty accurate. Death of Superman was horrible art and storywise,even though Reign of the Supermen,Funeral for a friend and Return of superman were good. Not surprised Onslaught was #1 there are worse events but it was pretty bad. Surprised more of the shitty X-men related events like Fall of the Mutants and Inferno didn't show up.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 12, 2017 1:10:36 GMT -5
Finally read the worst events list that got posted. Outside of Infinite Crisis it is pretty accurate. Death of Superman was horrible art and storywise,even though Reign of the Supermen,Funeral for a friend and Return of superman were good. Not surprised Onslaught was #1 there are worse events but it was pretty bad. Surprised more of the shitty X-men related events like Fall of the Mutants and Inferno didn't show up. When did Fall of the Mutants or Inferno get deemed shitty? Those are usually two of the most well-regarded ones. Hell, those two and Mutant Massacre are pretty much "the" three top ones as far as X-events go.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 12, 2017 2:07:08 GMT -5
Infinite Crisis is my favorite event...
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 12, 2017 3:16:38 GMT -5
Finally read the worst events list that got posted. Outside of Infinite Crisis it is pretty accurate. Death of Superman was horrible art and storywise,even though Reign of the Supermen,Funeral for a friend and Return of superman were good. Not surprised Onslaught was #1 there are worse events but it was pretty bad. Surprised more of the shitty X-men related events like Fall of the Mutants and Inferno didn't show up. When did Fall of the Mutants or Inferno get deemed shitty? Those are usually two of the most well-regarded ones. Hell, those two and Mutant Massacre are pretty much "the" three top ones as far as X-events go. Amoungst my group of comic reading friends ,most of us had started reading Uncanny X-men back around issue 130,regarded Fall of the Mutants as the start of the decline of the X-men franchise. Then Inferno ,outside of the Excaliber stuff,was just horrible. But it also seems with X-fans it depends on when you started reading the series as to when you think it peaked and then hit the bottom of the barrel. Mutant Massacre was fun. But by Fall of the Mutants it felt more like Marvel trying to make the fans buy every X-series. Then IIRC didn't Inferno not only cross over into all the X-titles but other Marvel titles. Both felt like cash grabs. ?? Also isn't The Dark Phoenix Saga considered one of the if not the best X-events? At least for me that and Days of Future past are the best X-events.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 12, 2017 3:21:39 GMT -5
When did Fall of the Mutants or Inferno get deemed shitty? Those are usually two of the most well-regarded ones. Hell, those two and Mutant Massacre are pretty much "the" three top ones as far as X-events go. Amoungst my group of comic reading friends ,most of us had started reading Uncanny X-men back around issue 130,regarded Fall of the Mutants as the start of the decline of the X-men franchise. Then Inferno ,outside of the Excaliber stuff,was just horrible. But it also seems with X-fans it depends on when you started reading the series as to when you think it peaked and then hit the bottom of the barrel. Mutant Massacre was fun. But by Fall of the Mutants it felt more like Marvel trying to make the fans buy every X-series. Then IIRC didn't Inferno not only cross over into all the X-titles but other Marvel titles. Both felt like cash grabs. ?? Also isn't The Dark Phoenix Saga considered one of the if not the best X-events? At least for me that and Days of Future past are the best X-events. Days of Futures past isn't really an Event. It's literally 2 issues.
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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 12, 2017 3:23:54 GMT -5
A lot of comics on that list not really events
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 12, 2017 3:24:36 GMT -5
Amoungst my group of comic reading friends ,most of us had started reading Uncanny X-men back around issue 130,regarded Fall of the Mutants as the start of the decline of the X-men franchise. Then Inferno ,outside of the Excaliber stuff,was just horrible. But it also seems with X-fans it depends on when you started reading the series as to when you think it peaked and then hit the bottom of the barrel. Mutant Massacre was fun. But by Fall of the Mutants it felt more like Marvel trying to make the fans buy every X-series. Then IIRC didn't Inferno not only cross over into all the X-titles but other Marvel titles. Both felt like cash grabs. ?? Also isn't The Dark Phoenix Saga considered one of the if not the best X-events? At least for me that and Days of Future past are the best X-events. Days of Futures past isn't really an Event. It's literally 2 issues. That is true. But it's effect on the X-franchise was as big if not bigger than the so-called big events on the late 80s and early 90s.Think about how often Days of Future past gets referred back to ,or hell it has had what 2 sequels. Don't see a Fall of the Mutants 2 or Inferno 2.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 12, 2017 3:43:02 GMT -5
When did Fall of the Mutants or Inferno get deemed shitty? Those are usually two of the most well-regarded ones. Hell, those two and Mutant Massacre are pretty much "the" three top ones as far as X-events go. Amoungst my group of comic reading friends ,most of us had started reading Uncanny X-men back around issue 130,regarded Fall of the Mutants as the start of the decline of the X-men franchise. Then Inferno ,outside of the Excaliber stuff,was just horrible. But it also seems with X-fans it depends on when you started reading the series as to when you think it peaked and then hit the bottom of the barrel. Mutant Massacre was fun. But by Fall of the Mutants it felt more like Marvel trying to make the fans buy every X-series. Then IIRC didn't Inferno not only cross over into all the X-titles but other Marvel titles. Both felt like cash grabs. ?? Also isn't The Dark Phoenix Saga considered one of the if not the best X-events? At least for me that and Days of Future past are the best X-events. All three events - Inferno, Massacre and Fall - all crossed over into non-X titles, notably Spider-Man and the Avengers for Inferno, Thor and Power Pack for Massacre and Captain America with Fall. I can't really judge your taste or your friends', but as a reader since the '70s myself, I've honestly never heard that opinion before regarding any of the three. It's usually around X-Tinction Agenda where people started growing tired of them as they were getting contrived. Fall and Inferno both had been built up in their respective books for some time and both had some very serious long-standing consequences (Cypher's death [until recently], the return of Harry Osborn as the Green Goblin after a decade-plus, Hobgoblin going demonic, Madeline Pryor's descent, the "death" of the X-Men as heroes saving Dallas, the outing of X-Factor, the integration of the X-Factor kids into the New Mutants, Angel becoming Archangel). If they were cash grabs, they were well-thought out and executed ones. Not sure I'd consider Dark Phoenix Saga nor Days of Future Past "X-Events" - they were just multi-issue storylines and didn't cross through more than one title. Not even sure I'd consider Superior Spider-Man an "event."
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