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Post by thechase on Aug 5, 2022 12:44:09 GMT -5
Edge of Spider-Verse#1 {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Anya's original powers are reawakening due to the re-emergence of the Sisterhood of Wasps, a result of Shathra regaining power and presence, Julia gives Anya a new costume designed by the Web Weaver, who will be introduced in issue five of the series. Anya battles Deliah, one of the new Wasp totem champions, and then follows Julia through a portal. She ends up helping Julia recruit Spider-Laird and observes Spider-Rex in action. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}What is the Sisterhood of Wasps and is there some sort of connection to Janet Van Dyne? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The Wasps are an off shoot of the Order of the Spider, they are totemic hunters who menaced Anya when she was first breaking out in Marvel Comics in the mid-2000s, Anya was a descendent of one of their hunters, also counted among their former members was Ezekiel Simms from JMS' run. Shathra I believe is their queen
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 5, 2022 15:39:55 GMT -5
Superman Space Age is great.
Also y'all definitely need to get into Do a Powerbomb and Bloodstained Teeth
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Post by thechase on Aug 6, 2022 2:19:37 GMT -5
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Aug 6, 2022 3:36:42 GMT -5
Claremont, go home you're drunk Claremont is honestly both the best and worst thing ever to happen to X-Men. All that stuff you love about the book? Probably has some connection to something-X he's written. All the stuff you hate about the book? Probably has some connection to something-X he's written. Feels like X-Men can't break free and move on from the popular consensus that the best years of the property were 1980 (The Dark Phoenix Saga), 1981 (Days of Future Past), 1982 (God Loves, Man Kills), or 1992 (The Animated Series).
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 6, 2022 9:47:11 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of blanket, "throw everything out and start from scratch" reboots, but man, if there was a comic book franchise that needed it it's the X-Men. I stopped reading the books sometime in the late 90's because they got too convoluted, and from everything I've seen online, it has only gotten way way way worse since. It really needs a fresh start.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Aug 6, 2022 17:24:00 GMT -5
What the bell? Just leave Mary Jane alone.
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Post by chrom on Aug 6, 2022 17:27:34 GMT -5
So now they're making her a Mutant after 60 years?
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Post by Duke Cameron on Aug 6, 2022 17:30:20 GMT -5
“The thing with Peter Parker is that he always has to be relatable," Cebulski says. "With Peter, it's something we have to handle really delicately." Getting Peter married or having a family is something that Marvel has no interest in.” “The Nick Spencer run gets a round of applause when a fan mentions it, but says that they felt a "sharp shift in direction" midway through the run. "I wouldn't say halfway through," Cebulski says, but towards the end, there were storylines that had to be adjusted. "There wasn't anything dramatic or anything we had to force down anyone's throats," he says.”
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 6, 2022 21:11:13 GMT -5
I think even Vince McMahon would say “You gotta listen to the fans sometimes, pal” when it comes to MJ & Peter.
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Post by chrom on Aug 6, 2022 21:31:21 GMT -5
Stan Lee should raise from his grave and smack the crap out of them
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 6, 2022 22:17:56 GMT -5
Claremont, go home you're drunk then later said that Kitty Pryde was going to become Black Panther and Storm's daughter... and become the new shadow panther... Including making Kitty... African via magic. yeah... that would go over real well...with everyoen...
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Post by thechase on Aug 7, 2022 1:37:31 GMT -5
I think even Vince McMahon would say “You gotta listen to the fans sometimes, pal” when it comes to MJ & Peter. We all know they're launching a pro-marriage and pregnancy book this November in "The Lost Hunt", they could have plugged that while they were there answering these questions to appease the reader. VERY mixed/dodgy signals being sent here....
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Aug 7, 2022 1:44:15 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of blanket, "throw everything out and start from scratch" reboots, but man, if there was a comic book franchise that needed it it's the X-Men. I stopped reading the books sometime in the late 90's because they got too convoluted, and from everything I've seen online, it has only gotten way way way worse since. It really needs a fresh start. A needed fresh start applies as much to the X-Men as everyone's favourite topic in this thread: Spider-Man. I've always been agnostic about post-OMD non-married status quo of Spider-Man. I think the whole story was a very comic book-y answer to a very simple problem. If Joe Q and J.M.S. wanted to break up the marriage, have Peter or Mary Jane or both of them fall out of love with each other. Maybe make one of them cheat. Or that the marriage couldn't sustain the stress after years and years of drama. Or why not have Peter or Mary Jane re-marry and make that re-marriage stick for more than 5 years. If creators really wanted to lean on the idea of a middle-aged Spider-Man, and a middle-aged Spider-Man married to Mary Jane, and both of them dealing with middle-aged problems, why not tell stories like Peter worried about testicular cancer as a latent effect of his spider bite as he's sitting in a doctor's office. Or both Peter and MJ freaking out because they made bad crypto investments. Or Mary Jane having to deal with where she can buy Activia on sale. Or let them have a child that isn't doing well in her language arts class because of ADHD and poor public funding of the elementary school system. Or have MJ and Peter awkwardly deflect the invite from their neighbours to participate in the creation of an Onlyfans spouse-swap video. If the only options for Spider-Man are to ping-pong between being a young, swinging, web-slinging tomcat or a late-30-early-40-something, Netflix-and-chill-watching married man with Mary Jane in his life, then the character is stunted either which way, to which this debate that has almost lasted a generation attests. Both sides want their version of the "same old, same old" to be canon, but it's old either which way you spin it, and nobody is addressing the root of the problem as a result. Spider-Man needs someone who writes for the property the way Jonathan Hickman came into X-Men a couple of years ago with so much promise and potential not just for world-building but world-expanding, even if he relied on a) the Moira being a mutant retcon, b) Xavier and Magneto willing to put aside differences yet again for the greater good, and c) mutants forming their own ethno-nation-state. Give me a House of X/Powers of X shake-up of Spider-Man, and I'm there. Hell, Zdarsky's Life Story, even if it wasn't in continuity, could have been that were the title actually longer than 6 issues plus an annual.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Aug 7, 2022 2:11:16 GMT -5
Claremont, go home you're drunk ... is "distruction" a word?
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Post by thechase on Aug 7, 2022 3:14:09 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of blanket, "throw everything out and start from scratch" reboots, but man, if there was a comic book franchise that needed it it's the X-Men. I stopped reading the books sometime in the late 90's because they got too convoluted, and from everything I've seen online, it has only gotten way way way worse since. It really needs a fresh start. A needed fresh start applies as much to the X-Men as everyone's favourite topic in this thread: Spider-Man. I've always been agnostic about post-OMD non-married status quo of Spider-Man. I think the whole story was a very comic book-y answer to a very simple problem. If Joe Q and J.M.S. wanted to break up the marriage, have Peter or Mary Jane or both of them fall out of love with each other. Maybe make one of them cheat. Or that the marriage couldn't sustain the stress after years and years of drama. Or why not have Peter or Mary Jane re-marry and make that re-marriage stick for more than 5 years. The thing is though, is that other than 616, very few if any of the long-running versions of Peter and MJ had a stressful marriage, from Spider-Girl to the newspaper strip, to Renew Your Vows, they're a pretty tight unit and if they have any issue, they talk it over like adults and come to a very immediate understanding and get on with being happy and healthy in their marriage. Fans aren't glued to Peter and MJ for the drama, they mostly flock to them to see how they always work out, and never tire of it, the characters are just that much fun to be around The only reason there was a separation at all in the 2000s after MJ came back was because JMS wanted to tell a story that ultimately saw them overcome the ultimate hurdles of the drama that affects both their lives, and came out all the stronger for it. Neither Quesada and especially JMS felt readers could truly 'buy' that Peter and MJ would give up on their marriage after that story, he was right to pin the blame of Peter and MJ's future drama/problems on devil magic and soul corruption. That's the only way you could believably shatter the most enduring love story in comics.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 7, 2022 7:28:00 GMT -5
I think it’s weird that Marvel (and some people in this thread) equate Peter and MJ being married to them being “old” or even “middle-aged”. Lots of people get married in their late 20’s, having been together since their early 20’s. Given Peter’s Spidey career, it’s logical that they could have got married even earlier (like couples during wartime, getting married in case something happens). And given that Peter became Spidey at 15, he can still be a very experienced superhero in his mid-20s.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 7, 2022 7:58:06 GMT -5
I think it’s weird that Marvel (and some people in this thread) equate Peter and MJ being married to them being “old” or even “middle-aged”. Lots of people get married in their late 20’s, having been together since their early 20’s. Given Peter’s Spidey career, it’s logical that they could have got married even earlier (like couples during wartime, getting married in case something happens). And given that Peter became Spidey at 15, he can still be a very experienced superhero in his mid-20s. I think it's mostly just an excuse given by a bunch of writers who hate their wives and need to deal with it in a more healthy way.
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Post by chrom on Aug 7, 2022 8:56:01 GMT -5
Claremont, go home you're drunk then later said that Kitty Pryde was going to become Black Panther and Storm's daughter... and become the new shadow panther... Including making Kitty... African via magic. yeah... that would go over real well...with everyoen... That sounds awful
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Aug 7, 2022 18:07:52 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of blanket, "throw everything out and start from scratch" reboots, but man, if there was a comic book franchise that needed it it's the X-Men. I stopped reading the books sometime in the late 90's because they got too convoluted, and from everything I've seen online, it has only gotten way way way worse since. It really needs a fresh start. I read Uncanny,yes I know it wasn't Uncanny at the time,from 129 until 300. ANd also bought X-factor,New Mutants and Excalibur. And really would have quit before 300,which was what 94?,but my mail sub lasted till then. Really aftter Fall of the Mutants for me Uncanny and X Factor/New mutants went to crap and Excalibuer was the only one I was reading. Sure I bought the others,but I would build up 5 or 6 issues and read those all at once. Heard that Ultimate X-men was a decent attempt at rebooting the franchise. But never read much of it. Only X-series I have read in a long ass time if X-men Forever ,which was fun but got really strange.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Aug 7, 2022 19:43:19 GMT -5
I think it’s weird that Marvel (and some people in this thread) equate Peter and MJ being married to them being “old” or even “middle-aged”. Lots of people get married in their late 20’s, having been together since their early 20’s. Given Peter’s Spidey career, it’s logical that they could have got married even earlier (like couples during wartime, getting married in case something happens). And given that Peter became Spidey at 15, he can still be a very experienced superhero in his mid-20s. I'd like to see a comic get made where Peter is a superhero, a father, and a married 17-year-old high schooler all at the same time. Throw all of the typical Peter Parker complications together in a blender. That way everyone is happy: writers and editors who want him to be young, fans who want him to be married, fans who want him to have a family, and fans who want him to keep experiencing That Parker Luck.
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