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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 13:20:43 GMT -5
Ross suffers from one major thing. His art is perfect for covers and splash pages. But his storytelling skills are weak. Almost as weak as Jim Lee's. Kingdom Come proved to me that Mark Waid ain't nearly as good as people claimed he was. Cause he took a great script,Twilight of the Gods by Moore,and made it into a subpar but well selling comic. He might have borrowed a few ideas from Alan Moore but it wasn't ever meant to be the Twilight of the Gods story. As for Mark Waid not being as good as people claim, his runs on The Flash, 52 and Fantastic Four speak for themselves. With Kingdom Come his job was mostly to write dialogue for Alex's paintings I agree with 52. Never read his FF run. And well his Flash run.... it is decent. But I am the age where Flash to me is Barry. I get that Wally has been a great Flash. I did enjoy Irredeemable and the other sister series Waid did at Boom. I just see his name mentioned with greats like Veitch,Gaiman and others and for me he isn't that level. Like I know he can write decent Capestuff but can he handle other genres. Like could wait right a slice of life bio comic? Or a western? Realized decades ago my taste in comics and what most love is very different. Like how most love Peter David and so far I have not cared for any of his capestuff comics since he had that run on I think it was Spectacular Spiderman in the early 80s.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 10, 2024 13:26:11 GMT -5
He might have borrowed a few ideas from Alan Moore but it wasn't ever meant to be the Twilight of the Gods story. As for Mark Waid not being as good as people claim, his runs on The Flash, 52 and Fantastic Four speak for themselves. With Kingdom Come his job was mostly to write dialogue for Alex's paintings I agree with 52. Never read his FF run. And well his Flash run.... it is decent. But I am the age where Flash to me is Barry. I get that Wally has been a great Flash. I did enjoy Irredeemable and the other sister series Waid did at Boom. I just see his name mentioned with greats like Veitch,Gaiman and others and for me he isn't that level. Like I know he can write decent Capestuff but can he handle other genres. Like could wait right a slice of life bio comic? Or a western? Realized decades ago my taste in comics and what most love is very different. Like how most love Peter David and so far I have not cared for any of his capestuff comics since he had that run on I think it was Spectacular Spiderman in the early 80s. Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree about his Flash run. To me it's one of the best comics of the 90s. Wally is also my favorite superhero and I'm one of the "Barry should have stayed dead" club so ..
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Post by uewfigfed on Jul 10, 2024 14:27:25 GMT -5
Damn, seeing no one even read or like those stories make me a lil sad lol only cuz my reboot idea is to ACTUALLY BUIKD YOUR LEGACY CHARACTERS. So in terms of DC I’d make it off this:
Cosmic threats -Justice League (SUPERMAN, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, John Stewart, Martian Manhunter, Barry Allen) who say “eff earth we’re going to protect the universe now” off this weird, yet potentially good Absolute Power Stuff
Earth Threats “Main team” - Justice Association of America (Wallers team of Green Arrow, Black Canary, Slade, Red Hood, Peacemaker, Silver Banshee)
Other Earth Team - The Titans (the “rebel” team of Nightwing, Cyborg, Starfyre, Beast Boy, Raven, Wally West new version)
Make oracle and the Birds be the network (aka Bruce’s secret team) and build on some of the newer characters (Jon Kent, Damian, Duke, etc..) with the open playground, knowing stakes raise when any of THOSE characters show up.
Outside of all that?? I’ve been riding this whole “Analog Horror” wave lately, and the one about Spiderman is pretty cool for a period piece, though not without its faults. There’s a Batman one too that makes him completely insane lol
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 14:32:23 GMT -5
I agree with 52. Never read his FF run. And well his Flash run.... it is decent. But I am the age where Flash to me is Barry. I get that Wally has been a great Flash. I did enjoy Irredeemable and the other sister series Waid did at Boom. I just see his name mentioned with greats like Veitch,Gaiman and others and for me he isn't that level. Like I know he can write decent Capestuff but can he handle other genres. Like could wait right a slice of life bio comic? Or a western? Realized decades ago my taste in comics and what most love is very different. Like how most love Peter David and so far I have not cared for any of his capestuff comics since he had that run on I think it was Spectacular Spiderman in the early 80s. Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree about his Flash run. To me it's one of the best comics of the 90s. Wally is also my favorite superhero and I'm one of the "Barry should have stayed dead" club so .. I agree on Barry shouldddd have stayed dead. Part of my Barry fandom was as a kid I was given an older cousin's colletion. And it was packed with late 60s and early 70s Flash stuff. So while yea Wally became the flash when I was 12,86 right? I had already been a huge Barry fan by then. Loved Wally in New Teen Titans. Just something in my brain seens him in the red suit and it just doesnt click for me. Oh well I got plenty of old Barry as Flash stories I have never read to go read. Not gonna be a fan that wants all the titles to be written just for me. If that happened comics would die even faster than they are dying right now.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 14:34:46 GMT -5
Ok got me thinking
What is your favorite version of these various heroes/heroines
Green Lantern-Big time tie between Hal and Alan Scott
Flash-Barry or Jay
Ghost Rider-Johnny Blaze
Captain Marvel-Billy Batson
Robin-Dick Grayson with Tim a Close second.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 10, 2024 15:59:44 GMT -5
Ok got me thinking What is your favorite version of these various heroes/heroines Green Lantern-Big time tie between Hal and Alan Scott Flash-Barry or Jay Ghost Rider-Johnny Blaze Captain Marvel-Billy Batson Robin-Dick Grayson with Tim a Close second. Green Lantern - Kyle Flash - Wally Ant-Man - Scott Lang (caveat: Hank Pym is my favorite Avenger period but he's had about a million different code names over the years and I think Scott just wears the Ant-Man identity better) Robin - Tim (caveat: I like Dick as a character a bit better over all but I think of him more as being Nightwing and Tim just owns the Robin role better) Venom - Flash Thompson (I accept that Eddie is the iconic Venom but I basically stopped caring about the concept until Flash was Venom and was actually believable as a hero in a way Eddie really wasn't- I've heard good things about Donny Cates' run though). Blue Beetle - Ted Kord, though I like Jaime a lot too
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 10, 2024 16:12:25 GMT -5
Ok got me thinking What is your favorite version of these various heroes/heroines Green Lantern-Big time tie between Hal and Alan Scott Flash-Barry or Jay Ghost Rider-Johnny Blaze Captain Marvel-Billy Batson Robin-Dick Grayson with Tim a Close second. Green Lantern-Tie between Kyle and Stewart Flash-Wally by A LOT. Grew up on Justice League cartoon and Geoff Johns run on Flash Ghost Rider-Robbie Reyes. Captain Marvel-Billy Batson Robin-Tim with Damien as a close 2nd.
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Post by Talent Name on Jul 10, 2024 16:44:30 GMT -5
Ok got me thinking What is your favorite version of these various heroes/heroines Green Lantern-Big time tie between Hal and Alan Scott Flash-Barry or Jay Ghost Rider-Johnny Blaze Captain Marvel-Billy Batson Robin-Dick Grayson with Tim a Close second. Green Lantern - Kyle Flash - Wally Ant-Man - Scott Lang (caveat: Hank Pym is my favorite Avenger period but he's had about a million different code names over the years and I think Scott just wears the Ant-Man identity better) Robin - Tim (caveat: I like Dick as a character a bit better over all but I think of him more as being Nightwing and Tim just owns the Robin role better) Venom - Flash Thompson (I accept that Eddie is the iconic Venom but I basically stopped caring about the concept until Flash was Venom and was actually believable as a hero in a way Eddie really wasn't- I've heard good things about Donny Cates' run though). Blue Beetle - Ted Kord, though I like Jaime a lot too Cates run was okay but he did a lot of weird shit with venom and I have a personal hatred of cates so it sours me a little bit.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 10, 2024 17:28:51 GMT -5
DC All In? Who will the Young Bucks face? But seriously, the article says 'like Marvel Ultimate but different', saying they'll be somehow connected. Isn't that what the DC Silver Age was? The new 60s heroes in one set of books, the previous set of heroes in a different dimension, sometimes they bridge the dimensions and meet. DC's solution to their business problems is sliding back to Pre-Crisis chaos? It's basically a bunch of What if type things. like Working Class Batman ... which just sounds like Daredevil or Spider-man <_<
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 17:31:59 GMT -5
TIL Flash Thompson was Venom.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 17:38:23 GMT -5
So I love Man Thing. Got a copy of Giant Sized #1 hanging on my wall.
Years back got the TPB that collects the Man Thing Mini series RL Stine wrote. Read it earlier........ Ok I have read other comics and stuff written by Stine. They were decent. This feels like Stine had no clue what man Thing was and just took the job for the check.
RL Stine's Man Thing is short and sucks.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 10, 2024 18:13:05 GMT -5
TIL Flash Thompson was Venom. Oh yeah it was awesome. Can't recommend Rick Remender's run enough. It's one of those "hero suffers A LOT" books but it's fantastic. They also gave Venom a really cool redesign.
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Post by Talent Name on Jul 10, 2024 18:25:12 GMT -5
TIL Flash Thompson was Venom. Oh yeah it was awesome. Can't recommend Rick Remender's run enough. It's one of those "hero suffers A LOT" books but it's fantastic. They also gave Venom a really cool redesign. I loved his space Knight design and run with the Guardians too. Agent Venom was a great idea and story where he went through the stages of grief was beautiful
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 19:19:59 GMT -5
TIL Flash Thompson was Venom. Oh yeah it was awesome. Can't recommend Rick Remender's run enough. It's one of those "hero suffers A LOT" books but it's fantastic. They also gave Venom a really cool redesign. She is the spidey fan,well I am too but I stop around 1984 or so. Mentioned what i learned. Got lectured on how I am behind and need to catch up "old man". Seems she has this run you mention so will check it out soon.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 10, 2024 19:32:07 GMT -5
For me...
Green Lantern - Split between Kyle and Alan
Flash - Wally
Ghost Rider - Johnny
Captain Marvel - Billy
Robin - Tim
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 10, 2024 19:52:41 GMT -5
Ok got me thinking What is your favorite version of these various heroes/heroines Green Lantern-Big time tie between Hal and Alan Scott Flash-Barry or Jay Ghost Rider-Johnny Blaze Captain Marvel-Billy Batson Robin-Dick Grayson with Tim a Close second. Green Lantern: Guy Garden Flash: Wally West Ghost Rider: Robbie Reyes Captain Marvel: Billy Batson Robin: Jason Todd
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 20:18:27 GMT -5
Oh yeah it was awesome. Can't recommend Rick Remender's run enough. It's one of those "hero suffers A LOT" books but it's fantastic. They also gave Venom a really cool redesign. I loved his space Knight design and run with the Guardians too. Agent Venom was a great idea and story where he went through the stages of grief was beautiful I got vague memories of a Venom Spaceknight comic. Think I might have read or at least flipped thru a copy. What year would that have been?
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Post by Talent Name on Jul 10, 2024 20:32:47 GMT -5
I loved his space Knight design and run with the Guardians too. Agent Venom was a great idea and story where he went through the stages of grief was beautiful I got vague memories of a Venom Spaceknight comic. Think I might have read or at least flipped thru a copy. What year would that have been? 2015
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 10, 2024 20:59:05 GMT -5
I got vague memories of a Venom Spaceknight comic. Think I might have read or at least flipped thru a copy. What year would that have been? 2015 Makes sense I had a pull list for most o 2015 and 2016. Betting I pulled it off the shelf and looked through it. Saw it wasn't ROM and passed. Will have to check it out.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Jul 11, 2024 0:40:10 GMT -5
Ok got me thinking What is your favorite version of these various heroes/heroines Green Lantern-Big time tie between Hal and Alan Scott Flash-Barry or Jay Ghost Rider-Johnny Blaze Captain Marvel-Billy Batson Robin-Dick Grayson with Tim a Close second. Green Lantern: never got into Hal as GL, Kyle was OK but felt like the change wasn't organic, Alan was before my time, and Guy wasn't a GL, he was Guy... the only GL I liked was John on the Justice League cartoon. Flash: Wally by a country mile, Barry was "your father's Flash" and I was into the whole thing of Wally trying to live up to the legend. Ghsot Rider: the original motorcycle ridin' stunt rider. Pure 70's but loved it. Robin: started getting into comics right around Death In The Family, so I was after Jason, and Dick was Nightwing. Always liked Tim in the role. Blue Beetle: Ted Kord, always wanted him to be less of the BWAA-HA-HA-HA guy and more of the Spidey/Batman cross that he could have been (the first real big comic crossover I got into was Legends and that's when they brought BB into the DCU). Jaime was a big shift but also a really great character, so it's close but Ted was my pick.
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