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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 9, 2017 9:33:07 GMT -5
Although I like the darkness of the Netflix series, after seeing some of the footage here, I hope Luke Cage and Iron Fist bring some light hearted fun to the Defenders alongside their badassery.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 5, 2017 22:34:39 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Mar 5, 2017 23:03:35 GMT -5
Not surprised, none of the other Defenders did in their first either.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 5, 2017 23:57:18 GMT -5
Not surprised, none of the other Defenders did in their first either. Exactly, it'd feel really odd if he immediately jumped into the outfit when Daredevil only got his in the last 5 minutes of his first season. I'm confident we'll get the costume eventually, so I can be patient.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 6, 2017 14:45:48 GMT -5
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Post by salz4life on Mar 6, 2017 19:01:27 GMT -5
The first season of Daredevil took a bit to get going, but when it did, I was all in. The second season was fantastic all the way through, IMO. Jessica Jones and Luke Cage were different. I enjoyed both, but they did have faults.
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Post by chrom on Mar 8, 2017 11:35:41 GMT -5
Reviews are in and so far they say it takes a bit to get into the first half but things start picking up in Episode 3 and the second half looks to be promising as well. Praise has been for Danny and Colleen as well as the fight scenes and choreography.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 8, 2017 11:38:33 GMT -5
Not surprised, none of the other Defenders did in their first either. Exactly, it'd feel really odd if he immediately jumped into the outfit when Daredevil only got his in the last 5 minutes of his first season. I'm confident we'll get the costume eventually, so I can be patient. it'd be a bit strange for him to come back to the city and suddenly wearing a disco collared suit and bandana combo for no real reason...
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Post by chrom on Mar 8, 2017 12:03:50 GMT -5
He'll likely have the costume for the Season Finale or for when The Defenders starts.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 8, 2017 13:06:23 GMT -5
Exactly, it'd feel really odd if he immediately jumped into the outfit when Daredevil only got his in the last 5 minutes of his first season. I'm confident we'll get the costume eventually, so I can be patient. it'd be a bit strange for him to come back to the city and suddenly wearing a disco collared suit and bandana combo for no real reason... though now that I think about it a guy walking down the street in that outfit WOULDN'T be the strangest thing I'd see that day in New York.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 8, 2017 13:11:56 GMT -5
I just hope that Claire doesn't hook up with Danny.
And that she also doesn't gets Coulson'd in The Defenders.
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Post by Legion on Mar 8, 2017 13:46:57 GMT -5
All this controversy.
Keep him white, people bitch they wanted him Asian. If they made him Asian, the exact same people would bitch about media stereotyping.
People just like to bitch.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 8, 2017 14:06:20 GMT -5
All this controversy. Keep him white, people bitch they wanted him Asian. If they made him Asian, the exact same people would bitch about media stereotyping. People just like to bitch. And even then, people might be overstating how the controversy has helped or hurt the show. Here's a negative review of Iron Fist that doesn't mention the controversy surrounding the show or even the idea of recasting Danny Rand with an Asian-American actor at all. I guess the major takeaway is that Sepinwall is bitching that the show just isn't that good? uproxx.com/sepinwall/iron-fist-review-netflix-marvel/2/The most significant quote that shows the failings of the Marvel method of making movies and TV shows:
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Mar 8, 2017 14:23:44 GMT -5
The very second he said that people wanted a Night Nurse show I topped reading and dsregarded everything he had said up to that point.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 8, 2017 14:49:13 GMT -5
The very second he said that people wanted a Night Nurse show I topped reading and dsregarded everything he had said up to that point. But doesn't Sepinwall actually say, ? Which I read as: 1) Dawson has been a major asset to the Netflix shows, so why not reward her efforts with her own spin-off when other actors, like John Bernthal, have been given such an opportunity; 2) Even though giving Dawson a spin-off would be a 'gamble', and I assume this gamble would be creatively difficult and financially risky, presumably because she's not a superhero, let alone a familiar comic book character to anyone who isn't already watching the Marvel Netflix shows. You can disagree with Sepinwall's take, and that's fine, because I, for one, don't know how good or how successful a Night Nurse show would be (even in a world where characters like Legion, Agent Coulson, and Peggy Carter all have or have had their own spin-off TV shows). But I have no clue how you get the idea that he said that people wanted a Night Nurse show, that leads you to disregard everything he says about Iron Fist, when he doesn't say the thing that you think he says at all.
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Post by Legion on Mar 8, 2017 14:57:33 GMT -5
I have never heard of this reviewer, not that that means that his review should be discounted, but having checked some of his reviews, he does seem a bit of a harsh critic and a bit negative about most things.
Still, I'm happy to accept this might not be very good at all - it doesnt even surprise me, the character is far from A list and usually comes with Cage anyway - and is likely the best way Netflix can go with the characters - put them together for their next show rather than two independent shows - but, the point I was making was in isolation to specific reviews and more the general view many seem to have of this show re. diversity casting etc.
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Mar 8, 2017 14:58:15 GMT -5
Honestly I just dislike her and haven't seen anything that great in her performances. Her character always seems to boil down to some third act sexual tension with someone. As for the review calling something lifeless is a vague-ish handwave that already irks me. People might've been a strong word then I suppose I should have said He seems to want it.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Mar 8, 2017 18:00:34 GMT -5
One upside is that all the reviews that are out right now only discuss the first half of the season. So anything that sounds negative or critical right now might be addressed within the show in the remaining episodes.
I'm not holding my breath that this will be the case, but some of the comic shows that I stopped watching for awhile, like Legends of Tomorrow and the first season of Agents of SHIELD, did get better towards the back end. I can acknowledge that it's not impossible for a show to course-correct halfway through, if the reviews are enough to go by.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 8, 2017 21:19:16 GMT -5
All this controversy. Keep him white, people bitch they wanted him Asian. If they made him Asian, the exact same people would bitch about media stereotyping. People just like to bitch. I've been saying it for a year. It's WAY more racist to automatically expect the martial arts guy to be Asian than it is to cast a white actor as a white character.
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Post by chrom on Mar 8, 2017 21:58:44 GMT -5
All this controversy. Keep him white, people bitch they wanted him Asian. If they made him Asian, the exact same people would bitch about media stereotyping. People just like to bitch. I've been saying it for a year. It's WAY more racist to automatically expect the martial arts guy to be Asian than it is to cast a white actor as a white character. It's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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