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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Oct 23, 2016 21:29:40 GMT -5
Giant Gonzalez beats Taker at WM 9, history destroyed
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Post by Unocal 76 on Oct 23, 2016 21:32:57 GMT -5
Orton doesn't lose the WHC at Unforgiven 2004.
Let Triple H chase for a few months and have him regain the title at New Year's Revolution 2005 in an Elimination Chamber. Giving Orton about 3 more months as champ might have made him more credible.
I always thought HHH was decent when he had to chase the champ rather than the reign of terror.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 21:38:57 GMT -5
Does outcome only involve the winner, or does it involve the actual ending itself? I'll do both (two picks). Whatever you want.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 23, 2016 21:49:00 GMT -5
And discuss the impact of that outcome. I'll just get it out of the way. Booker T beats Trips at that WM and becomes champion. Unfortunately however, given the politics, Booker either loses the belt back to him the next night on Raw or at the next ppv. Either way, Booker becomes a man who, if you go down his title wins, won just about every belt in WWE and WCW he was eligible for except for maybe 2. King Booker won the World Title in 2006 so that doesn't really change much on the last part.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 23, 2016 21:52:10 GMT -5
And discuss the impact of that outcome. I'll just get it out of the way. Booker T beats Trips at that WM and becomes champion. Unfortunately however, given the politics, Booker either loses the belt back to him the next night on Raw or at the next ppv. Either way, Booker becomes a man who, if you go down his title wins, won just about every belt in WWE and WCW he was eligible for except for maybe 2. What I came in to post.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 23, 2016 22:17:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd go with Booker T over Triple H at WM19. Even if he lost the belt back at like Backlash or something, it'd get rid of a ton of the bad taste that angle put in people and change it to "I hated the racial undertones of the feud, but at least Booker won the biggest match of it".
Change that, and change to Goldberg winning the SummerSlam Elimination Chamber, and I'd wager that there wouldn't even BE a "reign of terror". I mean, who'd get mad about Trips not dropping the belt to 2003-era Scott Steiner or Kevin Nash?
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Post by Germansuplex on Oct 24, 2016 1:59:57 GMT -5
Orton beats HHH at Mania XXV, keeps his hard-earned momentum and takes it to another level.
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Post by 4real on Oct 24, 2016 2:05:39 GMT -5
Santino tosses Alberto out of the Rumble and wins. Alberto doesn't become stale as quickly, Santino freshens up the Main Event for a bit. Was going to be my answer. Looking back they should have just gone and done it. Would have played up the 'Anyone can win the Rumble!' Slogan. Don't know if WWE would get a better chance. Yeah you could say Ellsworth but that's too far, Slater if he was in his old storyline of trying to get on a brand then maybe.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Oct 24, 2016 5:21:26 GMT -5
Elimination Chamber 2013- John Cena, Ryback and Sheamus vs The Shield: Cena goes on a rampage towards the end of the match and takes out Ambrose and Rollins on his own then pins Reigns clean. The Shield's momentum comes to a screeching halt and by the end of the year they split up and linger in the midcard for all eternity.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Oct 24, 2016 8:40:45 GMT -5
I want to know how different things would have been if they didn't have Daniel Bryan in the 2015 Royal Rumble. I bet Roman would've been much better off.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 24, 2016 8:47:57 GMT -5
I want to know how different things would have been if they didn't have Daniel Bryan in the 2015 Royal Rumble. I bet Roman would've been much better off. I don't think it would have changed that much. Once the final entrant was revealed to NOT be DB, the fans would have started chanting and booing. The end result would have more or less been the same. I'd even argue when Rock was holding Roman's hand high, you might have even heard overwhelming and unified "Daniel Bryan" chants.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Oct 24, 2016 8:49:30 GMT -5
No Way Out 2000 Rock beats Big Show in the Number One contenders match, then we get the Triple H v Rock one on one match at Wrestlemania 16 where Rock wins the title. I know I've disregarded the rules and changed the outcome to two matches there!
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Post by Jiren on Oct 24, 2016 8:52:12 GMT -5
Montreal - Have the screwjob be planned, Tell Bret what's gonna happen and have him do his post match shenanigans. Everything stays the same without the bad blood. And after WCW folds Bret comes back and maybe has a match with Vince (KOTR maybe) as revenge for the screwjob And/or is a major player in the Invasion. No Way Out 2000 Rock beats Big Show in the Number One contenders match, then we get the Triple H v Rock one on one match at Wrestlemania 16 where Rock wins the title. I know I've disregarded the rules and changed the outcome to two matches there! This, Keep Backlash's match the same but instead HHH is challenger instead of Champ (Have Vince turn Heel on RAW)
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Post by mizerable on Oct 24, 2016 9:06:32 GMT -5
So many to choose from between 2005 through 2012.
I'm going to go with Christian stealing the win at Vengeance, getting the ultimate opportunist gimmick while Edge completely dedicates his character to the Rated R Superstar.
And we also scale down Cena's invincibility from this era, so that more people break through the main event.
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Post by celtics543 on Oct 24, 2016 9:12:25 GMT -5
Ric Flair defeats HHH for the World Title on that Raw from like 2003 in Greensborough. JR was going crazy, the crowd was going crazy, it would've been an incredible moment if Flair had won the title one more time, even if he dropped it back the following week.
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Post by mauled on Oct 24, 2016 9:27:39 GMT -5
Macho Man v Hogan (any of there rematches) just 1 time have Hogan stop being a prick and put Savage over just once. It might have cured the bad blood between them and showed that Hogan actually cared about someone, other than himself.
Triple H -insert any name during the reign of terror
HBK-Bulldog 97 To give Bulldogs dying sister that one moment of joy.
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Post by Reflecto on Oct 24, 2016 9:27:47 GMT -5
For possibly the biggest impact for one change of the match outcome:
Daniel Bryan defeats Sheamus at Wrestlemania 28.
It's the single move that'd satisfy most of the fans, but in the aftereffect:
-Daniel Bryan is solidified as a main event player, as a serious performer and didn't have to have Hell No to make it to the top. As a result, The YES! Movement officially dies on the vine because Bryan got a worthwhile, longterm run as a top guy (and when he does lose to Sheamus, it's in a good long match), so the Bryan fans have nothing to complain about there. Daniel Bryan himself remains more of a cult hero than a mega-star. The Authority possibly doesn't happen solely because they have nothing to go after the fans about. -Sheamus ends up as a bigger face star, losing a lot of the hatred 18 Seconds gave him. Does it make him a mega-star or not? Maybe, maybe not, but he's a legit main event player. -AJ Lee didn't have a reason for Daniel Bryan to turn on her- so she doesn't get the psycho gimmick and ever break out of the pack with the Divas. Without breaking out without this, she probably never gets to a position to be at the top or make her Bombshell against Total Divas vs. True Divas, which means the fans can't AGREE with AJ Lee and realize "wait a minute, why ARE we letting the Total Divas' storylines run the division? The NXT stuff is better than this..."- in the process cutting the first seeds of the Women's Revolution off before they could germinate.
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Post by papagiorgio on Oct 24, 2016 9:38:53 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior defeats Sgt. Slaughter at Royal Rumble 1991. This leads to Hogan vs. Warrior II at Wreatlemania 7 and the horrible Sgt. Slaughter-Iraq angle goes away quicker. Hogan gets his win back at Wrestlemania 7 and we are spared from the Hogan-Warrior feud in WCW.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 24, 2016 10:02:36 GMT -5
Bulldog beats Michaels at One Night Only in 1997.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 24, 2016 10:06:13 GMT -5
Sting beats Triple H at WrestleMania. Sting gives a nice speech the next night and his feud with Triple H ends. He shows up next year for his final match against Undertaker at WrestleMania. ...and then it would have actually made sense to give Sting a title match versus Rollins. And then that win would have meant something for Seth. And then it could have easily led to a HHH/Rollins feud as Seth brags about being the guy to do what Hunter couldn't. That match ruined so much potential...
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