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Post by BRV on Dec 4, 2016 22:48:21 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the 4-7 Carolina Panthers finish at 4-12 or 5-11. They look like a team that has totally checked out and is just ready for the offseason to start.
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 4, 2016 23:02:27 GMT -5
NBC's Michelle Tafoya is reporting that Ron Rivera benched Cam Newton to start the game because of a dress-code violation. More specifically, he didn't wear a tie. Breh And the Panthers are officially a team in disarray now.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 4, 2016 23:06:15 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the 4-7 Carolina Panthers finish at 4-12 or 5-11. They look like a team that has totally checked out and is just ready for the offseason to start. They checked out a week ago. Carolina pretty much had nothing left for tonight after they threw everything including the kitchen sink in Oakland last week. I'd be shocked if they won, let alone stay close, at Washington on Monday night in 2 weeks. Kirk Cousins could win a fantasy league title by himself that night.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 4, 2016 23:16:23 GMT -5
This game in a nutshell.....
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 4, 2016 23:44:07 GMT -5
NBC's Michelle Tafoya is reporting that Ron Rivera benched Cam Newton to start the game because of a dress-code violation. More specifically, he didn't wear a tie. Breh You know, I applaud him. Yeah the rule is stupid but if you are going to have them, enforce them and enforce then equally. Plus Cam has shown he needs his ego checked, IMO. Bring him back down to Earth and maybe they can start winning again.
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Post by Wailord Man on Dec 5, 2016 0:07:13 GMT -5
Rex Ryan teams are pure dogshit when it matters He sold his coaching ability for that 2010 playoff win against the Pats
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Post by Nickybojelais on Dec 5, 2016 4:17:53 GMT -5
More specifically, he didn't wear a tie. Breh You know, I applaud him. Yeah the rule is stupid but if you are going to have them, enforce them and enforce then equally. Plus Cam has shown he needs his ego checked, IMO. Bring him back down to Earth and maybe they can start winning again. I wonder if Rivera would have done it if Carolina were 7-4 and in a playoff battle instead of 4-7 and virtually out of playoff contention.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 5, 2016 8:24:07 GMT -5
You know, I applaud him. Yeah the rule is stupid but if you are going to have them, enforce them and enforce then equally. Plus Cam has shown he needs his ego checked, IMO. Bring him back down to Earth and maybe they can start winning again. I wonder if Rivera would have done it if Carolina were 7-4 and in a playoff battle instead of 4-7 and virtually out of playoff contention. Probably not, but the team would have had less of a need to have a reality check like that if they were in that position. I think we can expect more hard-assedness to come.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 5, 2016 8:50:22 GMT -5
I personally would have thought getting murked in the Superbowl would have checked Cam's ego. But it appears to have been just growing more and more out of control
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 5, 2016 21:01:28 GMT -5
You would know that the one Colts game I can't watch would be the one where they get started early.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Dec 5, 2016 21:49:27 GMT -5
You would know that the one Colts game I can't watch would be the one where they get started early. Man are they ever...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 21:58:41 GMT -5
Jets fans paid $5 to see this game & they still feel ripped off.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 5, 2016 22:00:59 GMT -5
Jets.....................
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Post by BRV on Dec 5, 2016 22:07:05 GMT -5
I'm not especially a fan of the rule that a fumbled football that goes out of the opposing end zone is a change of possession and a touchback. Any other spot on the field in which you fumble out of bounds, unless it's your own end zone, is a dead ball and possession stays with the fumbling team. You're rewarding the defense for dumb luck and the bounce of the ball.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 6, 2016 2:43:20 GMT -5
I just watched a video of all of Bryce Petty's passes in the loss. After that I saw that he had been named the starter for the rest of the season. He went 11-25, 135 yds, 1TD and 2 INTs. The future is now?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 6, 2016 7:03:17 GMT -5
The New York Jets are hot garbage and really, there doesn't seem to be any hope that it going to change in the near future.
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Post by BRV on Dec 6, 2016 21:46:55 GMT -5
The New York Jets are hot garbage and really, there doesn't seem to be any hope that it going to change in the near future. Whenever a fan base laments a team never pushing their chips to the center of the table and going all-in one season, I point to the 2010 New York Jets as a prime example of how that can have disastrous long-term results for a franchise. The 2009 Jets pulled a rabbit out of their collective hats by going 9-7, sneaking into the playoffs, and advancing to the AFC Championship Game. The following summer, they totally went for it, signing Nick Folk, Brodney Pool, Ladainian Tomlinson, Jason Taylor, Jeff Cumberland, Mark Brunell, Laveraneus Coles, and Trevor Pryce and retaining free agents from 2009 including Kellen Clemens, Drew Coleman, Braylon Edwards, Ben Hartsock, James Ihedigbo, Tony Richardson, Eric Smith, and Brad Smith. They also announced contract extensions for D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, and Darrelle Revis; traded for Antonio Cromartie and Santonio Holmes; and extended Rex Ryan, Mike Westhoff, and Mike Tannenbaum. They were going for it. And yeah, while they went 11-5 and defeated Peyton Manning's Colts and Tom Brady's Patriots on the road in the postseason, they came up short of the clearly-outlined goal of all of those off-season transactions. The next season, the wheels came off as many of those free agent acquisitions who were already long in the tooth got a year older, the on-field talent wasn't strong enough to back up Rex Ryan's off-field bravado, and they finished 8-8, losing their last three games and missing the playoffs. They went 6-10 in 2012, 8-8 in 2013, 4-12 in 2014, rebounded to 10-6 last season, and are a dismal 3-9 in 2016. If they just played it smart, played it safe, and let their talent develop instead of throwing tons of money at aging players and re-signing in-house talent, maybe the Jets might be a contender in the AFC East and a threat to the Patriots. But instead, they're back to being a laughingstock with no real hope for the future in the short- or long-term.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 7, 2016 0:04:02 GMT -5
In football, it seems harder to push your chips to the center of the table and go all-in.
Conversely, look at what the Cubs did in 2016- they're gonna lose some key guys, yet I think every Cubs fan will tell you it was worth it to go for it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 7, 2016 4:18:55 GMT -5
In football, it seems harder to push your chips to the center of the table and go all-in. Conversely, look at what the Cubs did in 2016- they're gonna lose some key guys, yet I think every Cubs fan will tell you it was worth it to go for it. Well, yes....because the Cubs actually win it all AND have a lot of their nuecluasses coming back
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 7, 2016 20:47:47 GMT -5
In football, it seems harder to push your chips to the center of the table and go all-in. Conversely, look at what the Cubs did in 2016- they're gonna lose some key guys, yet I think every Cubs fan will tell you it was worth it to go for it. While it worked for the Cubs, my impression is that it is easier to rebound from shooting your...., well going for it all in MLB. This is especially true if you don't mind paying out the nose for that recovery thanks to the lack of a salary cap. This is partly why Skip Bayless pissed me off so damned much. Part of his excuse for shitting all over Andrew Luck any chance he got was because he claimed it was a mistake for the Colts to draft him in the first place and turn away from Peyton Manning. He seemed to think that the Colts were just a player or two away from being a SB contender again had they kept Manning at QB instead. He is an idiot for saying that. As a Colts fan I can categorically deny that would have been the case. They didn't just go 2-14 because Curtis Painter played a lot of QB that year. They had a whole lot of old players getting older on that team. They were already on the downswing the year before and that was not going to get any better by reloading. Granted, they did surprisingly go 11-5 Luck's first year (which was a better record than Manning got his last season with the Colts), but that was largely due to a combination of fresh legs, inspired coaching (mostly by Bruce Arians), the Titans and Jags sucking, and Luck's leadership. There were times where he turned in Madden-like performances when the team fell behind (often because of rookie mistakes made by him and the other young players). While Manning had also done stuff like that in the past, I seriously don't think that the team would have done nearly as well that year without starting the rebuild.
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