Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 20, 2016 10:37:06 GMT -5
Big E.'s more than just a "dancing gimmick", though. We tend to gloss over it or dismiss it a little bit because it gets obscured in the geeky antics of New Day in general, but Big E.'s character still has that "horny-ass creeper" aspect to it.
Singles Big E. is probably going to slide more into his "Creep E." side.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 20, 2016 10:46:09 GMT -5
Big E should be a more featured singles star imo. They tried that, nobody cared. Singles Big E had no mic time, no character, and no stories. He was just IC Title Guy. He'd come out clapping his chalk dusty hands and that was it. But on social media, he was getting across his weird kind of charisma and I remember even then that a lot of people were asking why we weren't getting that Big E. Now, with New Day, all three guys have really found themselves on the mic and, when the time comes for New Day to finally disband, I don't see how there won't be people caring. He's now not only over, but in a position where he is much more comfortable in conveying personality on-screen.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 20, 2016 13:15:36 GMT -5
I wish Sasha had won the match. I think Charlotte is better in all facets but Charlotte has been played out.
Sort of like the New Day. Also Sasha won the title a bunch of times that time too.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 20, 2016 15:00:09 GMT -5
If Big E got a singles push, why would he have to separate from New Day? Wyatt Family, Shield, DX, Evolution, 4 Horsemen and countless others have been able to support both a singles and tag focus and push. Hell, it'd give New Day and added dynamic if singles Big E was needed in storyline to team with Kofi or Woods
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 20, 2016 15:10:43 GMT -5
They tried that, nobody cared. Singles Big E had no mic time, no character, and no stories. He was just IC Title Guy. He'd come out clapping his chalk dusty hands and that was it. But on social media, he was getting across his weird kind of charisma and I remember even then that a lot of people were asking why we weren't getting that Big E. Now, with New Day, all three guys have really found themselves on the mic and, when the time comes for New Day to finally disband, I don't see how there won't be people caring. He's now not only over, but in a position where he is much more comfortable in conveying personality on-screen. Also helps that he was always shown in a credible light from a ring work standpoint, but now people have a better idea of what he's capable of. i.imgur.com/ZBnaaIy.gifvMy niece is 6, and if she jumped on me off of the couch, I would catch her with less ease than Big E nabs Jericho. Gif form doesn't really do it justice, he didn't look remotely strained. Plus, you have when he had Mark Henry up for the Big Ending and held him fine, only having to drop him and pin him because Mark hurt his ribs from his own weight pressing into Big E's shoulder. Even then, they basically sold it as Big E splashing Mark into submission, as he got him like 3 times.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 20, 2016 15:32:08 GMT -5
The New Day in general does some understated savagery and digs with a mixture of truth in their promos. Just most of it goes over people's heads.
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Post by percymania on Dec 20, 2016 15:53:59 GMT -5
The edited that line out of the YouTube replay.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 20, 2016 15:59:30 GMT -5
Someone did the math on Reddit, and if Ric Flair won titles at the same rate as Charlotte, he would have been World Champion 209 times.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 20, 2016 16:05:38 GMT -5
I can never hate New Day. They are just too damn entertaining. I honestly think they're putting together a Hall of Fame worthy run. I know we all go on about "WWE is the only draw!", but no, these three have clearly become breakout characters. That's not really what people mean when they talk about WWE being the draw though. Then again, the concept of a genuine draw has become almost impossible to measure in 2016 WWE for a variety of reasons so oh well.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 20, 2016 16:17:54 GMT -5
I honestly think they're putting together a Hall of Fame worthy run. I know we all go on about "WWE is the only draw!", but no, these three have clearly become breakout characters. That's not really what people mean when they talk about WWE being the draw though. Then again, the concept of a genuine draw has become almost impossible to measure in 2016 WWE for a variety of reasons so oh well. You're right, it is hard to measure. But I don't think it's unrealistic to assume there are a number of people on the roster who definitely make a difference in buzz. Cena and Lesnar are "duhs", but I believe New Day are one of those acts as well.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 20, 2016 16:18:40 GMT -5
If Big E tried to play his New Day character as a single guy it would bomb. I mean, he does a funny little dance? Since when has a comedy dance gimmick ever gotten over? Disco Inferno, Normal Smiley, Alex Wright, Horny Tonk Man, Fandango, K-Kwik, Brodus Clay. Nah it works as a group, and much like Triple HHH solo crotch chopping DX promos, it would just be silly on his own. We're not saying breakup the group. Keep them together, but have them each making a run for singles titles as a faction. EDIT: And Disco Inferno, Brodus Clay and Fandango were super over.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 17:59:00 GMT -5
Really the biggest issue I could see with a Big E singles push is of the three New Day members, he really has the least developed personality or role within the group. He shouts, he dances, and he's the power guy, that's about it. Brings a lot to the table and it wouldn't be the same without him, but he comes off like he's the one who needs the group the most. That said, Big E is definitely talented enough I could easily see him retooled into something more unique that could properly stand on its own, provided the writers actually put in the effort instead of going the Reigns route of having him just be a one man New Day whenever the group does actually go their separate ways.
Though personally Kofi is the one I want to see break out from the group and get a main event run.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Dec 20, 2016 22:11:37 GMT -5
My concern has never been whether or not any member of the New Day can make a singles run work.
My concern is if the WWE can make it work. And they're on RAW.
So no, they should keep what they got going. Because I don't trust RAW's bookers to make anything new work.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Dec 21, 2016 0:28:30 GMT -5
If Big E got a singles push, why would he have to separate from New Day? Wyatt Family, Shield, DX, Evolution, 4 Horsemen and countless others have been able to support both a singles and tag focus and push. Hell, it'd give New Day and added dynamic if singles Big E was needed in storyline to team with Kofi or Woods I agree with this. New Day stays together and Big E pushed as singles star. Plenty of room for Kingston and Woods to have matches that intermingle with Big E's nemesis and associated cohorts at the time.
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Post by trollrogue on Dec 21, 2016 0:42:54 GMT -5
Singles Big E is legit my favorite NZT Champion of all. His 5 count gimmick was bad. Ass.
Edit-- or "NXT Champion" but NZT works too since 5-Count Big E must a been on summa dat Limitless drug, he was #enfuego
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Post by Perfect Timing on Dec 21, 2016 1:23:22 GMT -5
Now I want to see Big E vs Charlotte.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 1:54:57 GMT -5
Now I want to see Big E vs Charlotte. Is it on Raw or on a pay-per-view? Because that'll make all the difference.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Dec 21, 2016 2:20:48 GMT -5
I think Charlotte would kick Big E's ass, in all honesty.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Dec 21, 2016 2:47:34 GMT -5
Now I want to see Big E vs Charlotte. Is it on Raw or on a pay-per-view? Because that'll make all the difference. Stick her in the Rumble. Let her eliminate Kofi and Xavier before Big E makes throws her out and becomes her Uncle and her Daddy.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 21, 2016 2:52:02 GMT -5
If Big E tried to play his New Day character as a single guy it would bomb. I mean, he does a funny little dance? Since when has a comedy dance gimmick ever gotten over? Disco Inferno, Normal Smiley, Alex Wright, Horny Tonk Man, Fandango, K-Kwik, Brodus Clay. Nah it works as a group, and much like Triple HHH solo crotch chopping DX promos, it would just be silly on his own. We're not saying breakup the group. Keep them together, but have them each making a run for singles titles as a faction. EDIT: And Disco Inferno, Brodus Clay and Fandango were super over. I have been saying this exactly for a little while. Xavier can easily intertwine with CW division with the help of New Day and same goes for Kofi and Big E in midcard or even main event
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