I miss time limit draws

[Grand Papillon "The Banker"]

Seriously, rather than have 50/50 booking and champions losing non title matches only to win on ppv or Charlotte and Sasha trading titles for months, I miss the tie option. Champions can retain and elevate talent at the same time. Someone like apollo crews could do wonders by hanging with AJ Styles for a night. Heels like the Miz can get even more heat by stalling like crazy to preserve their title. This used to be a staple of wrestling. Bring it back

[Ryback on a Pole!]

I abuse the shit out of them on TEW 2016.

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To me a time limit draw is just a massive waste of my time.

Also, most things that used to be staples of wrestling stopped being such for a reason.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Anything more then 10 or 15 minute draw is ehhh at least on regular tv

[Gremlin]

Heel champ retaining via time limit draw FTW.

["Cane Dewey" Johnson]

Time limit draws can work, but in today's era they would have to be done a certain way to maximize their effectiveness.

1) Heel champ retains via TLD (as mentioned above).
2) Monster/arrogant heel is taken to the limit by a babyface.
3) Highly competitive match between two wrestlers (face vs. heel, face vs. face).
4) Rookie shows up and tests the mettle of a veteran.
5) Veteran shows up and tests the mettle of a rookie.

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Miz stalling for a 10 minute draw, yes.

Cornette wanting a Daniel Bryan-Roman Reigns one hour broadway? F*** no.

[Grand Papillon "The Banker"]

Dec 25, 2016 21:25:07 GMT -5 "Cane Dewey" Johnson said:

Time limit draws can work, but in today's era they would have to be done a certain way to maximize their effectiveness.

1) Heel champ retains via TLD (as mentioned above).
2) Monster/arrogant heel is taken to the limit by a babyface.
3) Highly competitive match between two wrestlers (face vs. heel, face vs. face).
4) Rookie shows up and tests the mettle of a veteran.
5) Veteran shows up and tests the mettle of a rookie.

Agree 100% with this. Instead of adding the stipulation to the Zayn Match which made him look a bit needy. If he would have just survived 15 minutes because "those are the rules" he would have look d much stronger. The 15minute draw is a great option and escape plan for bookers to use

[This Player Hating Mothman]

This was a staple at a time when the business was about house shows, rare PPVs, and television shows mostly featuring squash matches. Trying to bring back a time limit draw as a regular occurrence in modern WWE is a good way to appeal to the nostalgia of older wrestling and more traditional wrestling fans while providing lots of non-conclusions to leave more casual ones feeling less than enthused. It's fallen by the wayside for what I feel are some fairly direct reasons, and I think it's an element that doesn't really hold much benefit to bring back regularly.

[wakko]

Draws can work. Especially if used well for storyline furthering purposes. Why they are not used at least once in a great while is beyond me.

[________ has left the building]

What we need more of are double pinfalls and TKOs. Protects both wrestles during times neither can afford to lose momentum. One of those options would had been nice during that time WWE sacrificed Ryback to CM Punk during Punk's world title reign. Yeah, it lead to the debut of the Shield but at the cost of Ryback's overness.

[Brother Nero....Wolfe]

Only way I'd like a time limit draw is if it was something anime as f***.

Like, Peak Lesnar vs Sami Zayn. It's also a Last Man Standing match to complete the cliche fest. Lesnar dominates entire match, Zayn underdogs his way to not dying every time but without really getting offense in. In the end, though he couldn't even hit Lesnar, Zayn gets up from like 5 F5s or something ridiculous and it ends in a draw. Then Lesnar looks at him approvingly, smiles, nods to himself and starts to leave the arena as Roundabout starts to play.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

It's a bit more variety in a time when a lot of TV matches tend to recycle the same finish several times per month (and on occasion several times per show).

As was mentioned above, Miz using stalling tactics to get a draw against Apollo Crews lets him keep his heat in a way that's in-keeping with his character and doesn't prevent Crews from building momentum. It adds something different to the mix, as opposed to the six or seven times Miz has used one dirty tactic or another to beat Crews.

[sunnytaker]

I always liked that aspect of tv title matches in wcw where it was always "1 fall to a ten minute time limit" and the times when the outmatched heel champ realizes he can't beat the face onslaught, but he just MIGHT be able to survive him. and they didn't even have the big clock counting down on the tron so the fans never really knew when the match was going to end. instead of the crowd countdowns for the last ten seconds of the submission attempt being applied to try to hang on for. I was shocked at the sasha tap at 2 seconds- may have been the first time in history (yet another historic first charlotte/sasha thing for the history books!!!!) something ended like that.

it doesn't really seem right for any other matches though- it was always a tv title exclusive thing for me.

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Dec 26, 2016 10:49:37 GMT -5 sunnytaker said:

I always liked that aspect of tv title matches in wcw where it was always "1 fall to a ten minute time limit" and the times when the outmatched heel champ realizes he can't beat the face onslaught, but he just MIGHT be able to survive him. and they didn't even have the big clock counting down on the tron so the fans never really knew when the match was going to end. instead of the crowd countdowns for the last ten seconds of the submission attempt being applied to try to hang on for. I was shocked at the sasha tap at 2 seconds- may have been the first time in history (yet another historic first charlotte/sasha thing for the history books!!!!) something ended like that.

it doesn't really seem right for any other matches though- it was always a tv title exclusive thing for me.

Mid-Atlantic was infamous for booking their TV title in matches where "there's a 60-minute time limit for the match; the TV title is only on the line in the first 10-15".

You'd think WWE would jump on something like that.

[trollrogue]

Honestly they should adapt the TV title rules every RAW for the CW title, this way it provides the cruisers with reason to try to excite crowds in 10 minutes or less, and also keeps the title from being hotshotted too often cause I expect Neville will be winning it from Swann very soon, and 3 champs in a month is too quick imho

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They should have time limits in general because it makes sense within kayfabe. If they have a certain number of matches booked for a certain length of show, how do they know that they will have time for all of them unless there are time limits.

[Sicho100]

I want them to come back, too, but I also know they would abuse the hell out of them. It would basically replace the run-in non-finish as a way for them to try to avoid beating anyone, so then we get three time limit draws per show.

[Woo]

Shimmer does these the best as they always announce how much time has elapsed and remaining every five minutes. Usually you don't pay it much notice but suddenly on the rare occasion where you get "15 minutes have gone passed, 5 minutes remaining" or whatever the match suddenly gets very tense! Sarah Stock vs Sara Del Rey in the Shimmer title tournament semi final springs to mind instantly which was even more tense as the hated Lacey, who won the other semi final would have been champion had the Sara's drawn.

That said the matches just ended with a bell and a "oh btw the time limit has expired!" is always a cop-out ending as you didn't know how much time was left in the first place. You also can't randomly say "Five minutes remaining!" out of the blue, so the best way to do it is to always announce how much time is left like Shimmer to get the full effect.

[Old Jack Burton]

Mickie James vs Asuka should have been a time limit draw.