Good Ideas but failed execution

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

What do you think some ideas TNA had but they failed horribly in execution.

AJ and Ric Flair. On paper this was a pairing that seemed right for each other. AJ needed the charisma Flair brings and Flair maintains an on screen character without wrestling.

However, what we got was Flair junior and having a devout married man flaunt on TV with numerous women way outside his character. Instead of them having him adopt some of Flairs tendencies they said to hell with it and made him a clone.

[A Platypus Rave]

AKA: "TNA the thread"

I don't think Flair fit AJ at all personally.

We knew who AJ was... and he was not a Ric Flair style party boy with different women every night.

I did think Flair being a manager was a great idea but pairing with him AJ was not the right idea.

[jimmyjames]

TNA.

[jimmyjames]

Aces & 8s and Gut Check are two that immediately come to mind.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

Samuel Shaw as a character was going places but failed very early due to silly storytelling.

[A Platypus Rave]

Dec 27, 2016 11:45:43 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Samuel Shaw as a character was going places but failed very early due to silly storytelling.

like he lives at home with his mom named Christy!

ignore that he had an apartment in his intro things...

[CeilingFan]

Joey Ryan

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Dec 27, 2016 11:46:12 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Dec 27, 2016 11:45:43 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Samuel Shaw as a character was going places but failed very early due to silly storytelling.

like he lives at home with his mom named Christy!

ignore that he had an apartment in his intro things...

Yea they screwed that up horribly. Should of kept the Patrick Bateman/Dexter part of his character instead of going more into Norman Bates.

Also Christy should of turned heel during his feud with Anderson and joined Shaw. Would of been a good way to add an extra element to his character.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Austin Aries as TNA champ was a good idea as he was white hot.

The shit failed horribly when they wanted to get over Jeff Hardy redemption story and made Aries CM Punk lite.

[MolotovMocktail]

Bringing in Hogan.

On paper, it makes sense to associate with the biggest draw in wrestling history. In practice, it's like launching a new basketball league and naming Michael Jordan as commissioner. You want the legitimacy from the name, but Jordan was never good in coaching or executive roles. Similarly, Hogan has proven he has no talent for booking, and with him unable to actually wrestle, did more harm than good.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

The MEM vs. The Frontline/ Originals. The idea was good but then you had the MEM dominate. Then you had one of the Main guys in Joe turn and join the MEM. This could and should have been away to legit AJ and Joe as the face of the company.

Flair as a manager was a great idea but AJ was not the guy. AJ was already World Champion and beat Sting and Angle before Flair. There was no benefit and AJ live style and Flair did not mix. However had he been with someone who fits the same mold in life style and was close to breaking into the ME picture Flair would be a huge benefit to getting him to that level.

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Bring in a new title with no previous luggage or linage to bring life to the mid card.




Make the title gimmicked with a concept that would only appeal to wrestling purists.




Have an out of shape character wrestler best known for being a comedy jobber and having slightly above average ring worker be your inaugural champion.

[schizo]

Good Idea: Jeff Jarrett having the idea to start up a new promotion as an alternative to WWE back in 2002

Failed Execution: Everything else that came after that

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Good Idea: Signing Kurt Angle

Failed Exwcution: Having his first feud be against Samoa Joe and ending his undefeated streak instead of it being the thing they built to.

[chrom]

We should use the Good Idea Bad Idea cards from Animaniacs for this.

[the2ndevil]

First thing to come to mind for me is the Jessie Godderz and Aron Rex feud.

Whenever he was in Grand Championship matches, Jessie would always win the first two rounds, but get pinned in round three. During his feud with Aron Rex, Rex would win in dirtier and dirtier ways, but Jessie seemingly won the feud -- in a one fall non title match.

Jessie needs to go to NXT. As good as he currently is, they can make him great.

[Mayonnaise]

I think using the Suicide character was brilliant. It gave them promotion for the game and created a unique character that TNA lacked.

However, it should not have been "Suicide is here straight from the video game" complete with knocking down a wall and what not. You could have achieved the same promotion and character by having someone use that character as a way to get into TNA, plus made it easy to ditch if (when) the game bombs instead of having that character stick around for way too long.

[cabbageboy]

It does baffle me that WWE has shown no interest in Jessie. He has the look they would like and also his reality TV background makes him a natural to put with Miz if they wanted.

I have mentioned this before but TNA was onto something in 2010 when two things seemingly fell into place: RVD won the title, and Kurt Angle took himself out of the top 10 to work his way back up. Okay, to backtrack it made no sense for Angle to do that (he should have just been off TV for a while and they simply didn't include him, thus making him resolved to go through 10 men). Regardless, it at least set up a potentially big match for TNA. Of course in the end TNA burned through RVD's dates for silly nothing matches on house shows and did the whole Abyss angle with Janice, and the BFG main event ended up being a wacky 3 way with Angle/Hardy/Anderson that was a total angle advancement for the rise of Immortal.

I mean let's say they hadn't screwed it up. You can still do an Immortal reveal at BFG with RVD/Angle, with either man doing a shock heel turn to sell out and become the Bischoff/Hogan champion. Angle could turn heel and join Immortal since he felt he had to do something to get over the cliff one last time after going through the top 10, or RVD could join Immortal playing off of being brought in by Bischoff and Hogan in the first place as a highly sought free agent. You could even bring in the disgruntled EV 2.0 into the mix since they would be mad at RVD for selling out.

Instead we got a wasted Jeff Hardy blathering about being the Antichrist and showing up for the match with Sting in no condition to perform.

[jimmyjames]

The Joseph Parks storyline.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Good Idea: Have people with experience in wrestling help run the company.

Bad Idea: Have the people on the cover of the death of WCW book run your company.