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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Dec 30, 2016 6:50:16 GMT -5
Balor vs Taker Cena vs Corbin HHH vs Rollins is alright Brock vs Goldberg II for nostalgia again AJ vs Orton (WWE C) Owens & Sami vs Jericho & Braun (RAWTT C) Joe vs Ambrose (IC C) Reigns vs Cesaro (U C) Miz vs Nakamura Nikki vs Becky (SDW C) Charlotte/Bayley/Sasha/Emma (RAWW C) CW title multiman ladder match kickoff: ARMBAR kickoff: Bray vs Harper
there, it took me 2 mins to put together this card
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Post by King Devitt: Scrum Guzzler on Dec 30, 2016 8:05:07 GMT -5
How many middle fingers will Vince give us this year? ? Stay tuned and find out.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 30, 2016 8:09:49 GMT -5
"the other opponent considered is Roman Reigns with the idea that Reigns is the future, Cena vs. Undertaker doesn’t build the future"
<4 of the 6 guys mentioned in the confirmed matches are part-timers/old timers and that's not even counting big show>
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Post by eJm on Dec 30, 2016 8:33:51 GMT -5
Here's my card:
WWE title: Cena/Taker Universal Title: Owens/Jericho Goldberg/Lesnar HHH/Rollins Raw Women's Title: Charlotte/Bayley Smackdown Women's Title:Alexa Bliss/Mickie James Battle of the Brands Series: AJ Styles/Finn Balor Battle of the Brands Series: Dean Ambrose/Roman Reigns BoTB Series: American Alpha/Cesaro and Sheamus ATGMBR IC Title: The Miz/Nakamura Pre Show: Big Show/Shaq Pre Show: BoTB Preview: Nikki/Naomi/Becky/Carmella/Natalya vs. Sasha/Nia/Dana/Alicia/Morgan Probable Pre Show: Cruiserweight Invitational for the Cruiserweight title
As I was doing it, it got tricky with talent I'd have to drop and move around but for me, this makes everyone happy. Reigns isn't in a massive match but still in one with storyline importance along with AJ, Ambrose and the tag champs in the Battle of the Brands Series with matches either we've never seen or ones you could put a bit more oomph into (Ambrose has never beaten Reigns etc). You could put the Women tag match instead for the Series to not leave most of the women off but I'd keep Reigns/Ambrose as a friendly rivalry sort of thing.
A lot more high profile talent in the ATGBR because that thing needs a kick to make credible again, Miz/Nakamura is the logical conclusion to his feud with Bryan because Nakamura wanted to face Bryan when he signed so Bryan gets him with Miz. Also, let's be honest, Shaq/Show is a pre Show match, let's not kid ourselves.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 30, 2016 8:45:12 GMT -5
Here's my card: WWE title: Cena/Taker Universal Title: Owens/Jericho Goldberg/Lesnar HHH/Rollins Raw Women's Title: Charlotte/Bayley Smackdown Women's Title:Alexa Bliss/Mickie James Battle of the Brands Series: AJ Styles/Finn Balor Battle of the Brands Series: Dean Ambrose/Roman Reigns BoTB Series: American Alpha/Cesaro and Sheamus ATGMBR IC Title: The Miz/Nakamura Pre Show: Big Show/Shaq Pre Show: BoTB Preview: Nikki/Naomi/Becky/Carmella/Natalya vs. Sasha/Nia/Dana/Alicia/Morgan Probable Pre Show: Cruiserweight Invitational for the Cruiserweight title As I was doing it, it got tricky with talent I'd have to drop and move around but for me, this makes everyone happy. Reigns isn't in a massive match but still in one with storyline importance along with AJ, Ambrose and the tag champs in the Battle of the Brands Series with matches either we've never seen or ones you could put a bit more oomph into (Ambrose has never beaten Reigns etc). You could put the Women tag match instead for the Series to not leave most of the women off but I'd keep Reigns/Ambrose as a friendly rivalry sort of thing. A lot more high profile talent in the ATGBR because that thing needs a kick to make credible again, Miz/Nakamura is the logical conclusion to his feud with Bryan because Nakamura wanted to face Bryan when he signed so Bryan gets him with Miz. Also, let's be honest, Shaq/Show is a pre Show match, let's not kid ourselves. Jeez, goes to show how stacked this roster actually is when the best you've got for the likes of Orton, Wyatt, Zayn, New Day, Corbin, etc. on a FOURTEEN MATCH CARD (!!!) is the Andre. I don't envy them booking this thing one bit, what with all the belts and divisions they have to account for.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 30, 2016 9:02:56 GMT -5
That said, I'll give it a go...
*WWE Championship Match: John Cena (c) v The Undertaker *WWE Universal Championship Match: Kevin Owens (c) v Chris Jericho *Brock Lesnar v Goldberg *The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns) and The New Day (Big E and Xavier Woods) v Triple H, Finn Balor and The Club (AJ Styles, Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson) *IC Championship Ladder Match: The Miz (c) v Baron Corbin v Heath Slater v Sami Zayn v Rusev v Kofi Kingston v Samoa Joe *US Championship Match: Braun Strowman (c) v Luke Harper *Fatal 4-Way RAW Women's Championship Match: Bayley (c) v Sasha Banks v Charlotte Flair v Nia Jax *Fatal 4-Way SmackDown Women's Championship Match: Alexa Bliss (c) v Nikki Bella v Becky Lynch v Mickie James *Tag Champions vs Tag Champions Match: Sheamus and Cesaro v American Alpha *Randy Orton v Bray Wyatt --- *Cruiserweight Championship Scramble: Neville (c) v Akira Tozawa v Jack Gallagher v Rich Swann v TJ Perkins *Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal: ...Everyone else, I guess
I originally wanted just Shield v Club, then I remembered "Oh f***, I gotta put Triple H in there somewhere, don't I?" which led to a four-on-three thing... Then I remembered Rollins as "Captain" of The New Day and put a couple of those guys in... Then that made it five-on-four... I suppose this will just spin off into a Balor v Styles program somewhere down the line, I'm not fussed. I'm just assuming that people would be into a match that had Prime Bullet Club as one team (plus Trips, I guess).
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 30, 2016 9:16:10 GMT -5
Why are they worried Reigns v Undertaker may never happen? Nobody bad asked for that match ever.
People have been speculating over Taker v Cena for years. Put the title on the line and Cena is obviously winning.
I understand trying to make Wrestle mania a showcase but why build a product in one direction all year and then just have everything break down from January until April to set up one show?
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Post by eJm on Dec 30, 2016 9:16:34 GMT -5
Here's my card: WWE title: Cena/Taker Universal Title: Owens/Jericho Goldberg/Lesnar HHH/Rollins Raw Women's Title: Charlotte/Bayley Smackdown Women's Title:Alexa Bliss/Mickie James Battle of the Brands Series: AJ Styles/Finn Balor Battle of the Brands Series: Dean Ambrose/Roman Reigns BoTB Series: American Alpha/Cesaro and Sheamus ATGMBR IC Title: The Miz/Nakamura Pre Show: Big Show/Shaq Pre Show: BoTB Preview: Nikki/Naomi/Becky/Carmella/Natalya vs. Sasha/Nia/Dana/Alicia/Morgan Probable Pre Show: Cruiserweight Invitational for the Cruiserweight title As I was doing it, it got tricky with talent I'd have to drop and move around but for me, this makes everyone happy. Reigns isn't in a massive match but still in one with storyline importance along with AJ, Ambrose and the tag champs in the Battle of the Brands Series with matches either we've never seen or ones you could put a bit more oomph into (Ambrose has never beaten Reigns etc). You could put the Women tag match instead for the Series to not leave most of the women off but I'd keep Reigns/Ambrose as a friendly rivalry sort of thing. A lot more high profile talent in the ATGBR because that thing needs a kick to make credible again, Miz/Nakamura is the logical conclusion to his feud with Bryan because Nakamura wanted to face Bryan when he signed so Bryan gets him with Miz. Also, let's be honest, Shaq/Show is a pre Show match, let's not kid ourselves. Jeez, goes to show how stacked this roster actually is when the best you've got for the likes of Orton, Wyatt, Zayn, New Day, Corbin, etc. on a FOURTEEN MATCH CARD (!!!) is the Andre. I don't envy them booking this thing one bit, what with all the belts and divisions they have to account for. Yeah, that was the hardest thing because a lot of those guys should have higher profile stuff but with the guarenteed stuff like HHH/Rollins and Goldberg/Lesnar along with should happens (Owens/Jericho, Cena/Taker), there really isn't many combinations you can make. Corbin/Zayn for the BoTB might be fun to do but that's all I. can think of that'd make sense for my overall plan. And like I said, the ATGBR needs credibility again so the best way is to load that thing with stellar talent for the spots to be super awesome.
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Post by eJm on Dec 30, 2016 9:42:12 GMT -5
That said, I'll give it a go... *WWE Championship Match: John Cena (c) v The Undertaker *WWE Universal Championship Match: Kevin Owens (c) v Chris Jericho *Brock Lesnar v Goldberg *The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns) and The New Day (Big E and Xavier Woods) v Triple H, Finn Balor and The Club (AJ Styles, Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson) *IC Championship Ladder Match: The Miz (c) v Baron Corbin v Heath Slater v Sami Zayn v Rusev v Kofi Kingston v Samoa Joe *US Championship Match: Braun Strowman (c) v Luke Harper *Fatal 4-Way RAW Women's Championship Match: Bayley (c) v Sasha Banks v Charlotte Flair v Nia Jax *Fatal 4-Way SmackDown Women's Championship Match: Alexa Bliss (c) v Nikki Bella v Becky Lynch v Mickie James *Tag Champions vs Tag Champions Match: Sheamus and Cesaro v American Alpha *Randy Orton v Bray Wyatt --- *Cruiserweight Championship Scramble: Neville (c) v Akira Tozawa v Jack Gallagher v Rich Swann v TJ Perkins *Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal: ...Everyone else, I guess I originally wanted just Shield v Club, then I remembered "Oh f***, I gotta put Triple H in there somewhere, don't I?" which led to a four-on-three thing... Then I remembered Rollins as "Captain" of The New Day and put a couple of those guys in... Then that made it five-on-four... I suppose this will just spin off into a Balor v Styles program somewhere down the line, I'm not fussed. I'm just assuming that people would be into a match that had Prime Bullet Club as one team (plus Trips, I guess). Some of those sound really good. Harper/Strowman sounds fun, love the idea of Shield/HHH and the Club and the 4 way women's matches are a good way of getting people on the main card that should be there like Banks, Lynch and Nia. I should mention that I wanted a bit more of a substance to some of the matches, which is why I didn't do 4 ways or the ladder match because it'd take away from the build to the matches but honestly, your card looks more realistic than mine.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 30, 2016 9:44:47 GMT -5
I love this time of year where everyone guesses what the Mania card is going to be and being disappointed at the actual card because it's not what they wanted to see or hyped themselves to be.
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Post by KofiMania on Dec 30, 2016 10:21:18 GMT -5
My expectations:
*The Undertaker vs. John Cena *WWE Title: AJ Styles (c) vs. Finn Balor *Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar *Universal Title: Kevin Owens (c) vs. Chris Jericho *Triple H vs. Seth Rollins *US Title: Roman Reigns (c) vs. Braun Stroman *IC Title Ladder Match: The Miz vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Samoa Joe vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Baron Corbin *Smackdown Tag Title 4-Way: American Alpha vs. Wyatt/Orton vs. The Usos vs. The Revival *Raw Tag Title 4-Way: Sheamus & Cesaro vs. New Day vs. Enzo & Cass vs. The Club *Raw Women's Title: Charlotte (c) vs. Bayley vs. Sasha Banks *Big Show vs. Shaq
Pre-Show: *SD Women's Title: Becky Lynch (c) vs. Mickie James *Cruiserweight Title *Women Interbrand Tag Match *Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Dec 30, 2016 14:21:57 GMT -5
Man, they just do not care if we don't want Roman Reigns as THE Guy. They will make him THE Guy whether we like it or not.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Dec 30, 2016 14:55:29 GMT -5
Short of Cena vs. the Undertaker, which would be too little, too late anyway, I can't imagine anything worthwhile to be excited about.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 15:08:31 GMT -5
I love how they just keep going back to this Roman thing. They're like the friend that forces you to watch an unfunny YouTube video and thinks that you will find it hilarious if you just watch it one more time. Roman's push = Tom Green's "The Bum Bum Song"
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Post by domrep on Dec 30, 2016 15:26:40 GMT -5
Undertaker - "And SmackDown has always been my home!" *goes to Raw to feud with Reigns for no reason* What pisses me off is that the 2 guys who have been killing it this year, Ambrose and Styles, don't have any major plans it seems. They've been the workhorses of this company for 2016, they've been doing the most and then this shit happens. Sad. We have no clue what will happen between now and April. My guess is they're hoping and praying Balor comes back, then you have a call up from either Joe or Nakamura. Still got Jericho and Owens with nothing to do unless their whole schtick goes on for another 5 months.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 30, 2016 16:03:12 GMT -5
I love this time of year where everyone guesses what the Mania card is going to be and being disappointed at the actual card because it's not what they wanted to see or hyped themselves to be. Joke is on you. I expect nothing good.
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Post by Rican on Dec 30, 2016 16:32:01 GMT -5
I'll give it a guess.
WWE Championship: John Cena (c) vs. The Undertaker Universal Championship: Roman Reigns (c) vs. Finn Balor Retirement Match: Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg Street Fight: Triple H vs. Seth Rollins Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens Shaq vs. The Big Show RAW vs. SmackDown: Braun Strowman vs. Dean Ambrose RAW Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Sasha Banks The now annual Intercontinental Championship Cluster f***: The Miz (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin vs. Kalisto vs. Apollo Crews vs. Luke Harper Inter-brand Tag Team Turmoil: Cesaro & Sheamus vs. The New Day vs. The Club vs. American Alpha vs. The Usos vs. Enzo and Cass Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal featuring everyone else (Sami Zayn wins by last eliminating Bray Wyatt)
Pre-Show: SmackDown Women's Championship: Alexa Bliss vs. Mickie James vs. Nikki Bella vs. Becky Lynch Cruiserweight Championship: Neville vs. Rich Swann vs. Jack Galagher vs. The Brian Kendrick
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Post by fw91 on Dec 30, 2016 16:32:13 GMT -5
What I would do.
1)WWE title- John Cena vs The Undertaker 2)Universal Title Fatal 4 Way Elimination match- Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn (Rumble Winner) vs Fin Balor (Rematch clause) vs Chris Jericho (gets in somehow) 3)Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar 4)HHH vs Seth Rollins 5) SDL Tag Titles No Holds Barred Tornado Tag Handicapped Match- AJ Styles and Dean Ambrose vs Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, and Randy Orton. (Harper turns face here. Wyatts will regain the titles somewhere along the line, but dissention is teased through the build up. Styles and Ambrose somehow become reluctant partners) 6) The Big Show vs Shaq 7) US Title- Roman Reigns vs Samoa Joe (Joe debuts at the Rumble, cost Reigns the match. The common Samoan heritage writes the story. 8) RAW Womans title Charlotte vs Bayley 9) Braun Strowman wins ATGMBR 10) IC Title- The Miz vs Baron Corbin
Pre Show Raw Tag Titles- The New Day vs Enzo and Cass vs The Club vs Sheamus and Cesaro. Crusierweight title ladder match SDL Woman's belt Turmoil -Becky vs Mickie James vs Alexa Bliss vs Nikki Bella vs Natalya vs Carmella vs Sasha Banks
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 30, 2016 16:47:38 GMT -5
Nobody wants Reigns at "The guy" Why still push it. He doesn't have "it" if he did he be over in the matter they expect him to be as the next Hogan/Austin/Cena. No way he get over as a face ever against Taker and even more so if he beats Taker. He not "the guy" they want him to be. Turn his ass heel, the best back for him and even Austin said it and maybe he find himself much like the Rock did when he went heel and hell even Bobby Lashley in TNA. This is what they should do with him and maybe he find himself and build him as a legit Main Eventer that much like The Rock later becomes the guy. He young enough to get that but you doing no favors shoving him down everyone throat when he clearly doesn't have "it".
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Post by cabbageboy on Dec 30, 2016 17:55:05 GMT -5
I almost think the new brand split was done specifically so they could keep pushing Reigns but not to the point where he's the unquestioned guy on both shows. But this WM card? This sounds like an entire card of the sort of booking that drove CM Punk insane to the point where he quit. We're now at the point where it could be a part time guy (Cena) vs. a barely even there guy (Taker) for the WWE title.
I still think Samoa Joe will end up on this WM card. A Rumble debut sounds good to me. What else can he do in NXT?
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