Bo Rida
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 1, 2017 5:12:55 GMT -5
I think Zayn vs Stardust should be on there.
Here's an exciting new wrestler making his debut*! Watch as he gets beaten down by weak looking Stardust offence for 95% of the match before fluking a win at the end.
It's a pet peeve that WWE debut guys like this against lower tier guys that can't usually control a match. They should be getting their moveset over and building some excitement.
*Re-debut. Whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 5:46:05 GMT -5
I think Zayn vs Stardust should be on there. Here's an exciting new wrestler making his debut*! Watch as he gets beaten down by weak looking Stardust offence for 95% of the match before fluking a win at the end. It's a pet peeve that WWE debut guys like this against lower tier guys that can't usually control a match. They should be getting their moveset over and building some excitement. *Re-debut. Whatever. God that match was a chore to watch. A freaking Canadian crowd was dead for a Sami Zayn match!
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 1, 2017 7:08:49 GMT -5
Curtis Axel and R-Truth had a PPV match? First thought was that it would have been on the pre-show, but maybe they had it after the show ended to make people leave.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 7:33:33 GMT -5
Curtis Axel and R-Truth had a PPV match? First thought was that it would have been on the pre-show, but maybe they had it after the show ended to make people leave. It was firmly situated between that awful Cutting Edge segment with Edge & Christian/New Day that kicked off their feud with the League of Nations, and the main event. Because there's nothing like stopping a show's momentum cold before the main event.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 1, 2017 12:37:38 GMT -5
I liked the Ambrose Asylum It's alright. In Soviet Russia, Ambrose Asylum likes you
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Post by feartear on Jan 1, 2017 14:33:25 GMT -5
Some notes:
-if they putted the object on the walls of the cage instead of above it (like TNA did one time, I don't remember when) then the Asylum would have been much more short and much more fluid
-Bailey vs Dana was not a disaster, come on. Both of the girls did a sufficient job to narrate the classic story of "heel works on face's damaged art/face clentches his teeth and overcome the obstacle" without committing mistakes. I liked for what it was
-I should have chosen Charlotte/Natalya from Extreme Rules instead of Payback. Payback's match was decent minus the ending, but ER's match was a Submission Match that lasted only 10 minutes or less, none of the women narrated a story, and Natalya looked stupid
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 15:04:30 GMT -5
The thing about that Ambrose Asylum match was it was a match when nobody tried to escape via door. That already makes it my favorite cage match ever
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 1, 2017 18:15:43 GMT -5
I can't believe Jericho tried to give props to himself (like he always does) against Ambrose on his podcast about this. He said "Ambrose feuded with me and not long later he became champion" like he did something about it. Nah bruh, the company realized they f***ed up with that match and that Lesnar match and gave Ambrose what he deserved and that was the title. All they had to do is cut that Asylum match down by 10 minutes. It was 26 minutes too long. f***ed up. I do give Jericho a lot of credit, honestly. There's no reason he had to go into thumbtacks for Ambrose. He easily could have said hell no on that one. He was very clearly trying to give the guy all the shit that his WrestleMania match was lacking. He let the violent psycho actually look violent psycho. When Jericho took the tacks bump, I started to come around on him again having largely been irritated by his current run.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 1, 2017 18:21:38 GMT -5
I do give Jericho a lot of credit, honestly. There's no reason he had to go into thumbtacks for Ambrose. He easily could have said hell no on that one. He was very clearly trying to give the guy all the shit that his WrestleMania match was lacking. He let the violent psycho actually look violent psycho. When Jericho took the tacks bump, I started to come around on him again having largely been irritated by his current run. I did too. I was just stunned that a guy with an open door to come and go as he pleases came in and took something so nasty to make a younger guy look good. Most guys in his shoes wouldn't even take a pinfall, let alone fall on a pile of tacks.
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Post by Thunderbolt on Jan 1, 2017 21:46:35 GMT -5
Dolph/Ambrose was the one that popped into my head. Dolph got booked like shit, treated like a joke, got owned by Ambrose and then they had one of the worst counters I've ever seen in the WWE leading into the finish. And Ambrose had one of the lamest looking bumps(that superkick on the outside)I've ever seen.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 1, 2017 23:58:10 GMT -5
I'm getting a general "f*** Dean Ambrose: the countdown" theme from this thread.
Good call on the Ziggler/Ambrose thing. You kinda figured it would have something else going for it because it Dolph had been cold for ages, but nope, it continued poor Ambrose's streak of "well, that was there, I suppose." Really night and day for Ambrose, he had an excellent gig with Hunter only to get that thing at 'Mania..Had that Ziggler thing, then turned around into a top-notch series with Styles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 0:26:57 GMT -5
Dolph/Ambrose was the one that popped into my head. Dolph got booked like shit, treated like a joke, got owned by Ambrose and then they had one of the worst counters I've ever seen in the WWE leading into the finish. And Ambrose had one of the lamest looking bumps(that superkick on the outside)I've ever seen. I thought the feud was perfect in terms of what it was supposed to do. It acknowledged the slump that Dolph was in, Dean Ambrose spoke to him in blunt realities about his situation, and then when it was crunch time Ambrose proved himself right about Dolph as the overeager underachiever, and it was good for Ambrose too because he was cutting great promos again and the feud had that serious edge that he's been missing. I don't know what the deal was with that match, it came off like Ambrose was taking a page from Shawn Michaels' book when he wrestled Hogan and was just taking the piss out of the whole thing, doing weird dances, not selling much. It was like on that night Vince finally noticed that they were doing something with Dolph Ziggler and he decided to squash it.
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Post by Facetious on Jan 2, 2017 0:40:21 GMT -5
Man, I was really digging Ambrose near the end of the year that I forgot all the clunkers he was involved in.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 2, 2017 1:03:37 GMT -5
Dolph/Ambrose was the one that popped into my head. Dolph got booked like shit, treated like a joke, got owned by Ambrose and then they had one of the worst counters I've ever seen in the WWE leading into the finish. And Ambrose had one of the lamest looking bumps(that superkick on the outside)I've ever seen. I thought the feud was perfect in terms of what it was supposed to do. It acknowledged the slump that Dolph was in, Dean Ambrose spoke to him in blunt realities about his situation, and then when it was crunch time Ambrose proved himself right about Dolph as the overeager underachiever, and it was good for Ambrose too because he was cutting great promos again and the feud had that serious edge that he's been missing. I don't know what the deal was with that match, it came off like Ambrose was taking a page from Shawn Michaels' book when he wrestled Hogan and was just taking the piss out of the whole thing, doing weird dances, not selling much. It was like on that night Vince finally noticed that they were doing something with Dolph Ziggler and he decided to squash it. the biggest problem with that whole feud was afterwards Dolph continued acting exactly the same despite Dean flat out destroying his character. .
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jan 2, 2017 1:18:05 GMT -5
The problem with the Ambrose/Ziggler match was that it was so out of place in SummerSlam. It was a Smackdown main event used to build up Ambrose in the middle of the second biggest show of the year, and it completely killed the rest of the show.
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