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Post by Ludwig Kaiser’s Walk on Jan 2, 2017 23:41:22 GMT -5
Turned it off the second Stephanie appeared. Turned it over to the Rose Bowl and it was an amazing game, so by the time I went to flip back for good, it was a commercial. I saw a few minutes here and there, but nothing enough to really keep my interest, so I voted Didn't Watch/Other.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 2, 2017 23:42:31 GMT -5
I'll give it a 4
Also, we really should have an option for a public system where it can say on the poll which user voted for which number.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 2, 2017 23:43:23 GMT -5
Boring show with repetitive matches. 3/10 and that might be generous.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 2, 2017 23:43:46 GMT -5
Not terrible not great. The only thing I thought was really bad was Titus/New Day. Was more entertained playing Splatoon though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 23:53:36 GMT -5
A 0 rating is stupid. Why should someone who didn't watch the show have any bearing on the rating? That said, didn't watch this week, last week averages to 5.24. Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 0:02:44 GMT -5
A 0 rating is stupid. Why should someone who didn't watch the show have any bearing on the rating? That said, didn't watch this week, last week averages to 5.24. That's like if imdb.com had a didn't watch opition for its movies. I give Citizen Kane a 0/10 because I didn't watch it but I give Bucky Larson a 1/10 since I seen it
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 3, 2017 0:05:04 GMT -5
I don't watch because I find the show offensively bad to the point where it makes me angry if I watch. That sounds like a pretty good reason for a zero. Same for me, and I do think most people who are giving Raw a flood of 10s each week are either trolls or people going, "No, I have to show those people who dared not like something I did they're wrong by shoring the score up!", but it defeats the entire purpose of grading the show if you're factoring in someone who didn't watch it getting involved. Those people are the same people who say Finn Balor is a bad wrestler but neverending title reign era Nikki Bella and Eva Marie are the best women on the roster. There's just no reasoning with that level of willful ignorance of reality.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 3, 2017 0:19:20 GMT -5
Same for me, and I do think most people who are giving Raw a flood of 10s each week are either trolls or people going, "No, I have to show those people who dared not like something I did they're wrong by shoring the score up!", but it defeats the entire purpose of grading the show if you're factoring in someone who didn't watch it getting involved. Those people are the same people who say Finn Balor is a bad wrestler but neverending title reign era Nikki Bella and Eva Marie are the best women on the roster. There's just no reasoning with that level of willful ignorance of reality. Excuse me?
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 3, 2017 0:23:06 GMT -5
Largely horse manure.
I enjoyed Sami/Braun more than I thought I would. A bit too much walk and brawl but some good plunder.
I f***ing HATED everything Roman Reigns especially his interjection in the main event segment. I just want this asshole to go away.
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Post by schizo on Jan 3, 2017 0:27:28 GMT -5
6. I was entertained
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Post by J Lee O'Brien on Jan 3, 2017 0:33:34 GMT -5
A 0 rating is stupid. Why should someone who didn't watch the show have any bearing on the rating? That said, didn't watch this week, last week averages to 5.24. Agreed. Possibly misremembering, but I think the Didn't Watch/0 was intended for those who were actively turned off from watching during the episode by the episode itself, rather than prior obligations.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 3, 2017 0:34:48 GMT -5
A 0 rating is stupid. Why should someone who didn't watch the show have any bearing on the rating? That said, didn't watch this week, last week averages to 5.24. I don't watch because I find the show offensively bad to the point where it makes me angry if I watch. That sounds like a pretty good reason for a zero. If something is "Offensively bad to the point it makes you angry" you should completely disengage from it.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jan 3, 2017 0:35:32 GMT -5
Does didn't watch/0 factor into the average?
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jan 3, 2017 0:44:10 GMT -5
I don't watch because I find the show offensively bad to the point where it makes me angry if I watch. That sounds like a pretty good reason for a zero. If something is "Offensively bad to the point it makes you angry" you should completely disengage from it. & I pretty much have. I don't watch RAW or their PPVs. At most I'll read bits and pieces of the RAW thread for the jokes and scroll through the YouTube thumbnails to see if anything catches my eye.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 3, 2017 3:12:08 GMT -5
Ok I need to clarify something to EVERYONE HERE. Specifically Lizuka #BLM @supersweetbotch @notoriousnd22 and Mister Pigwell
Didn't Watch/0 is for people who tuned into RAW and then tuned out, they are angry with the product or their distaste for the show as a whole caused them to not stick around to even grant it a 1, it gets a 0. Maybe I should clarify and change it to a "Barely Watched" to make the two more separate. If the show is bad and you turn it off, it's more than likely a 0. OR if you had a prior engagement or couldn't see the whole show and you feel you couldn't give a fair rating, you vote Other.
As you can see, the split has gone smoothly, there are Didn't Watch/0's and Didn't Watch/Others in the Poll, I did this because there were SO MANY Didn't Watch Votes not being counted, it was swaying the overall average rating of certain shows, and in some cases the "Troll 10s" were winning RAW some weeks
Didn't Watch/0 WILL be counted in Average Votes as it also reflects how people are upset with the Product as a whole, if people are turning off the show or not watching the full thing, it should be reflected on how that RAW or Smackdown is rated as a whole.
So it's not for people who didn't watch the show at all, it's for people who still hate RAW but their votes are going to waste in the Poll. I hope that's cleared things up. Im not trying to cause any animosity here, I'm just trying to make the Polls smoother so we don't have over 50% of the Votes going nowhere again.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 3, 2017 3:57:31 GMT -5
I enjoyed the lower-card. The main event storylines again dragged it down. Don't give a shit about Reigns and Rollins and their matches.
The main event in Raw really needs shaking up because it's dreadful. Owens has looked a joke. His pairing with Jericho is entertaining enough but Rollins and Reigns are the dullest guys on the roster. Rollins doesn't work as a face. Reigns is just the most boring man on the planet.
It also loses a point for pointlessly destroying Braun. Why have him come out? Just have Reigns and Goldberg stare each down to close the show would be fine.
I'll give it a 6 for the midcard matches and storylines which were fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 5:40:14 GMT -5
Ok I need to clarify something to EVERYONE HERE. Specifically Lizuka #BLM @supersweetbotch @notoriousnd22 and Mister Pigwell
Didn't Watch/0 is for people who tuned into RAW and then tuned out, they are angry with the product or their distaste for the show as a whole caused them to not stick around to even grant it a 1, it gets a 0. Maybe I should clarify and change it to a "Barely Watched" to make the two more separate. If the show is bad and you turn it off, it's more than likely a 0. OR if you had a prior engagement or couldn't see the whole show and you feel you couldn't give a fair rating, you vote Other.
As you can see, the split has gone smoothly, there are Didn't Watch/0's and Didn't Watch/Others in the Poll, I did this because there were SO MANY Didn't Watch Votes not being counted, it was swaying the overall average rating of certain shows, and in some cases the "Troll 10s" were winning RAW some weeks
Didn't Watch/0 WILL be counted in Average Votes as it also reflects how people are upset with the Product as a whole, if people are turning off the show or not watching the full thing, it should be reflected on how that RAW or Smackdown is rated as a whole.
So it's not for people who didn't watch the show at all, it's for people who still hate RAW but their votes are going to waste in the Poll. I hope that's cleared things up. Im not trying to cause any animosity here, I'm just trying to make the Polls smoother so we don't have over 50% of the Votes going nowhere again. But that's stupid. The point of these, in theory, isn't a, "Here, come talk about how much you hate Raw as a general property!" thread, and more should be about actually grading the show based on having actually watched the thing. I mean, I generally skip Raw and I generally assume it's going to be bad, but I don't just go ahead and give it a 1 when I haven't watched it. Really it comes off like you're trying to spin it into everyone echoing with you that Raw's bad as opposed to actually looking for opinions and trying to grade a consensus.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 3, 2017 6:06:50 GMT -5
Ok I need to clarify something to EVERYONE HERE. Specifically Lizuka #BLM @supersweetbotch @notoriousnd22 and Mister Pigwell
Didn't Watch/0 is for people who tuned into RAW and then tuned out, they are angry with the product or their distaste for the show as a whole caused them to not stick around to even grant it a 1, it gets a 0. Maybe I should clarify and change it to a "Barely Watched" to make the two more separate. If the show is bad and you turn it off, it's more than likely a 0. OR if you had a prior engagement or couldn't see the whole show and you feel you couldn't give a fair rating, you vote Other.
As you can see, the split has gone smoothly, there are Didn't Watch/0's and Didn't Watch/Others in the Poll, I did this because there were SO MANY Didn't Watch Votes not being counted, it was swaying the overall average rating of certain shows, and in some cases the "Troll 10s" were winning RAW some weeks
Didn't Watch/0 WILL be counted in Average Votes as it also reflects how people are upset with the Product as a whole, if people are turning off the show or not watching the full thing, it should be reflected on how that RAW or Smackdown is rated as a whole.
So it's not for people who didn't watch the show at all, it's for people who still hate RAW but their votes are going to waste in the Poll. I hope that's cleared things up. Im not trying to cause any animosity here, I'm just trying to make the Polls smoother so we don't have over 50% of the Votes going nowhere again. But that's stupid. The point of these, in theory, isn't a, "Here, come talk about how much you hate Raw as a general property!" thread, and more should be about actually grading the show based on having actually watched the thing. I mean, I generally skip Raw and I generally assume it's going to be bad, but I don't just go ahead and give it a 1 when I haven't watched it. Really it comes off like you're trying to spin it into everyone echoing with you that Raw's bad as opposed to actually looking for opinions and trying to grade a consensus. But the vote of people that absolutely hate the program and don't watch it should also count. Or at least vote a 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 6:19:15 GMT -5
But that's stupid. The point of these, in theory, isn't a, "Here, come talk about how much you hate Raw as a general property!" thread, and more should be about actually grading the show based on having actually watched the thing. I mean, I generally skip Raw and I generally assume it's going to be bad, but I don't just go ahead and give it a 1 when I haven't watched it. Really it comes off like you're trying to spin it into everyone echoing with you that Raw's bad as opposed to actually looking for opinions and trying to grade a consensus. But the vote of people that absolutely hate the program and don't watch it should also count. Or at least vote a 1 I mean, if it were a, "How are you enjoying the Raw brand?" poll or something, sure, but when it's being graded episode by episode, and there have been post-draft episodes the majority has regarded as enjoyable, it defeats the entire point to drag down the score and grade the thing on the basis of people who didn't watch it. It's pretty much like someone doing a review of Doctor Strange saying it sucked because they haven't watched a Marvel movie since Winter Soldier, it's grading a standalone entity you haven't personally seen based solely on your opinions of something related.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 3, 2017 6:46:39 GMT -5
But the vote of people that absolutely hate the program and don't watch it should also count. Or at least vote a 1 I mean, if it were a, "How are you enjoying the Raw brand?" poll or something, sure, but when it's being graded episode by episode, and there have been post-draft episodes the majority has regarded as enjoyable, it defeats the entire point to drag down the score and grade the thing on the basis of people who didn't watch it. It's pretty much like someone doing a review of Doctor Strange saying it sucked because they haven't watched a Marvel movie since Winter Soldier, it's grading a standalone entity you haven't personally seen based solely on your opinions of something related. But people ARE watching it, I said that that vote is for people who can't get through RAW's because of how bad they are, so they've at least somewhat tuned in and what they saw was shit.
Obviously you don't agree with it, but people ASKED me for it, so I put it in so the polls can look better than they have been, not changing it, but I put it in with a purpose and I honestly don't think it's stupid. Ill correct the phrasing for Smackdown as well so we don't have this problem anymore.
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