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Post by chrom on May 10, 2021 7:05:23 GMT -5
What can you do with Janemba? He's not exactly known for his depth and character. Like Hirudegarn he's more of a mindless brute attacking everything in sight
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Post by eJm on May 10, 2021 7:10:02 GMT -5
What can you do with Janemba? He's not exactly known for his depth and character. Like Hirudegarn he's more of a mindless brute attacking everything in sight I mean, I'm pretty sure we were asking those same questions about Broly considering, well, dude's foundation back then was "He hated Kakarot because he cried a lot in his crib oh and he's also the Legendary Super Saiyan because *shrug*".
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Post by Mandarin Dessert Version 0 on May 10, 2021 8:06:02 GMT -5
What can you do with Janemba? He's not exactly known for his depth and character. Like Hirudegarn he's more of a mindless brute attacking everything in sight It has been years since I have seen the twelth movie but I remember Fat Janemba having some cool attacks like "punching and kicking with portals" and conjuring up a Goku doppelganger out of nowhere who was able to counter one of Goku's Kamehamehas pretty well.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 8:08:23 GMT -5
If they bring my boy back they better put triple serious respect on his name and his powerset because as far as I remember he is the only reality warper , matter manipulater in all of Dragonball and they kept how powerful he really is very very vague before Gogeta just Brock Lesnar's him.
They need to bring up his reality warping powers and really let him loose as a multiversal threat where his reality warping affects other planets not just earth (hint hint how to keep Broly out of this movie) and do everything he did in the fusion reborn but double down on it...takes over planets , hfil , brings back the dead etc.
And then to show how physical a force he is (using his matter manipulating powers to create weapons like he did that sword) have him take on Goku , Vegeta and Jiren(who takes the place of Broly here) he handles them untill he is downed by Gogeta Blue and Jiren.
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Post by chrom on May 10, 2021 17:48:25 GMT -5
What can you do with Janemba? He's not exactly known for his depth and character. Like Hirudegarn he's more of a mindless brute attacking everything in sight I mean, I'm pretty sure we were asking those same questions about Broly considering, well, dude's foundation back then was "He hated Kakarot because he cried a lot in his crib oh and he's also the Legendary Super Saiyan because *shrug*". That's just what it gets flanderized into. People forget that he got stabbed right in the stomach and watched as Planet Vegeta got blown up and Goku's crying was reminding him of that day and Paragus putting a mind control device on his head which didn't do his damaged psyche any good.
Janemba doesn't have any depth as it just a freak accident that created him.
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Post by eJm on May 10, 2021 18:04:46 GMT -5
I mean, I'm pretty sure we were asking those same questions about Broly considering, well, dude's foundation back then was "He hated Kakarot because he cried a lot in his crib oh and he's also the Legendary Super Saiyan because *shrug*". That's just what it gets flanderized into. People forget that he got stabbed right in the stomach and watched as Planet Vegeta got blown up and Goku's crying was reminding him of that day and Paragus putting a mind control device on his head which didn't do his damaged psyche any good. Janemba doesn't have any depth as it just a freak accident that created him.
And the fact 95% of people don’t remember any of that and remember him being a big dude who smashes sort of says a lot about how well all that stuff went over with people. All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t be talking about a character’s depth then when there’s an opportunity to rewrite it now. That’s literally how this would all work.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 10, 2021 21:21:21 GMT -5
Hey, considering where Broly ended up as a character in the movies and where he is now, don’t see why they couldn’t do the same with Baby considering. I more meant a swerve in the regard to everyone predicting a Z movie character or 21, and Toriyama decides to make something from GT canon to the Super timeline. Well if they were to make something from GT Canon Baby is the arc to use (though the Dark Dragon Saga would be cool) Though ever since Broly. I've been hoping to see Cooler become canon
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Post by eJm on Jul 9, 2021 6:15:02 GMT -5
At Comic Con@Home on July 24th, there will be a Dragon Ball panel with Goku's Japanese voice, Masako Nozawa; the head of the Dragon Ball team at SHUEISHA, Mr. Akio Iyoku and the movie's producer Norihiro Hayashida and it seems from the page description here, that's when we'll find out what the movie is going to be about. I mean, unless it leaks closer to the day which seems likely with this stuff.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 18, 2021 22:05:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 22:17:18 GMT -5
I'm just glad he didn't get beat as bad as the spoilers said. He's on the losing end but the fight isn't over. He'll probably be beaten but we'll see.
Toyo and Toriyama are f***ing up tho. You can't let dude get beaten like this after he just got a new transforming. That'd be bad writing.
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Post by Raskovnik on Aug 19, 2021 3:24:47 GMT -5
They didn't put over Vegeta when it actually made sense to vs Moro, to cement him as the new protector of Namek and to give him closure/a chance to properly atone for what he did there, so there's no f***ing way they're going to let him get any shine even after debuting Ultra Ego, it's just to put over Granolah. I'm glad I'm not too invested anymore because god damn is Dragon Ball awful at getting anyone over other than Goku.
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Post by mrtuesday on Aug 19, 2021 5:14:23 GMT -5
They didn't put over Vegeta when it actually made sense to vs Moro, to cement him as the new protector of Namek and to give him closure/a chance to properly atone for what he did there, so there's no f***ing way they're going to let him get any shine even after debuting Ultra Ego, it's just to put over Granolah. I'm glad I'm not too invested anymore because god damn is Dragon Ball awful at getting anyone over other than Goku. That was clear when Toriyama scrapped plans to make Gohan the main focus and bring Goku back to life. It's been clear that Dragon Ball is, was, and always will be the story of Goku and only Goku.
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Post by dreidemy on Aug 19, 2021 7:20:11 GMT -5
All Ego Vegeta is All Elite
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Aug 19, 2021 12:12:09 GMT -5
They didn't put over Vegeta when it actually made sense to vs Moro, to cement him as the new protector of Namek and to give him closure/a chance to properly atone for what he did there, so there's no f***ing way they're going to let him get any shine even after debuting Ultra Ego, it's just to put over Granolah. I'm glad I'm not too invested anymore because god damn is Dragon Ball awful at getting anyone over other than Goku. I mean think about how many power-ups Goku and Vegeta have had since Super started, and Trunks and Goten are how old?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 14:51:09 GMT -5
They didn't put over Vegeta when it actually made sense to vs Moro, to cement him as the new protector of Namek and to give him closure/a chance to properly atone for what he did there, so there's no f***ing way they're going to let him get any shine even after debuting Ultra Ego, it's just to put over Granolah. I'm glad I'm not too invested anymore because god damn is Dragon Ball awful at getting anyone over other than Goku. I mean think about how many power-ups Goku and Vegeta have had since Super started, and Trunks and Goten are how old? And how they haven't even grown an inch.
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Post by chrom on Aug 19, 2021 16:12:17 GMT -5
They didn't put over Vegeta when it actually made sense to vs Moro, to cement him as the new protector of Namek and to give him closure/a chance to properly atone for what he did there, so there's no f***ing way they're going to let him get any shine even after debuting Ultra Ego, it's just to put over Granolah. I'm glad I'm not too invested anymore because god damn is Dragon Ball awful at getting anyone over other than Goku. I mean think about how many power-ups Goku and Vegeta have had since Super started, and Trunks and Goten are how old? They're at least the age they should be when Z ended
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 19:49:14 GMT -5
Latest chapter is out. It's... something. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} {Spoiler}There's quite a few continuity nods to previous manga stories, such as how Bardock comments on identifying Granolah and his mother, as well as Monaito controlling his power level is virtually similar to Raditz's dialogue in the first chapter of what would become Dragon Ball Z to the West, as well as exploring elements from Dragon Ball Minus, like Gine introducing him to his new son. Nappa with hair will always be strange.
It also appears that, like Granloah was, Gas is motivated by revenge against the Saiyans, given that he was defeated by Bardock in battle, and like Granloah, he sought to get more powerful. Only, he had 40 years of training to prepare himself as opposed to Granloah seeking the instant solution.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Oct 22, 2021 6:04:15 GMT -5
Latest chapter is out. It's... something. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} {Spoiler}{Spoiler}There's quite a few continuity nods to previous manga stories, such as how Bardock comments on identifying Granolah and his mother, as well as Monaito controlling his power level is virtually similar to Raditz's dialogue in the first chapter of what would become Dragon Ball Z to the West, as well as exploring elements from Dragon Ball Minus, like Gine introducing him to his new son. Nappa with hair will always be strange.
It also appears that, like Granloah was, Gas is motivated by revenge against the Saiyans, given that he was defeated by Bardock in battle, and like Granloah, he sought to get more powerful. Only, he had 40 years of training to prepare himself as opposed to Granloah seeking the instant solution. I had been on the fence with this recent arc with just how the direction of Granolah's development and how they've handled his battle with Goku and Vegeta. But this last chapter was so great for the reasons you mentioned. I just wish how we got to this point was told better.
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Post by eJm on Jul 5, 2022 12:24:41 GMT -5
Dusting this thread off because rumor is that, with the movie impending, Toei are potentially looking to announce that Super is returning next year.
I’m trying to find a source for it but they did say two weeks ago that there was a new Super related project incoming in V Jump so it would make sense that it’d be a continuation of the anime with two arcs practically done.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 5, 2022 13:06:26 GMT -5
Dusting this thread off because rumor is that, with the movie impending, Toei are potentially looking to announce that Super is returning next year. I’m trying to find a source for it but they did say two weeks ago that there was a new Super related project incoming in V Jump so it would make sense that it’d be a continuation of the anime with two arcs practically done. Not holding my breath no matter how much I want it to come back. I've heard so many rumors of them wanting to bring it back with nothing to show for it. Really do hope they pull the trigger though. The new movie looks like a blast and with the Manga going on, it's not like they don't have story to go off of.
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