StuntGranny®
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 25, 2017 23:40:23 GMT -5
Eh, I don't dislike the guy, but I don't want to see him come back and win the Royal Rumble. In my opinion, he just doesn't "fit" with anything that's going on in the main event scene right now. You would think Seth would be his first feud when he comes back, but he's tied up with Triple Paul. I would hold off and make him a night after WrestleMania return, but that's just me.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 25, 2017 23:42:38 GMT -5
The real question is, how do you feel about Alex Riley?
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Post by King Boo on Jan 25, 2017 23:44:36 GMT -5
It is literally the same schtick, worded differently, each time Finn Balor comes up. So you either have a really irrational hatred of someone you don't know, or it's a gimmick you're running with at the moment. I'm assuming it's the latter, so please give it a rest. This is absurd, honestly. It's a very strong dislike of someone and I crack jokes about them. I don't really see why I'm getting singled out when a big reason why that rule even exists is because of the copycats of me running around. If you want to talk to me via pm about this, I got no issue with that but I don't particularly enjoy getting labeled as a gimmick poster when I'm showing my dislike of someone. Especially with that incredibly vague rule. I am only going to say this one time. You are not a mod. You do not know the reasons behind why anything we state is decided. You do not get to decide how to interpret the rules you had no hand in creating. Lastly, if you hate the copycats so much, then, again, give it a rest.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 25, 2017 23:54:16 GMT -5
He'll be back to resume his super push while folks still complain about Roman Reigns and blissfully ignoring that Balor been made to look way stronger than Roman at his peak. I like both dudes but facts are facts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 23:57:04 GMT -5
Dude looks like a monster. He's gonna come back a REAL DEMON.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 25, 2017 23:59:46 GMT -5
He'll be back to resume his super push while folks still complain about Roman Reigns and blissfully ignoring that Balor been made to look way stronger than Roman at his peak. I like both dudes but facts are facts. No one brought up the Roman superpush. Why are you bringing up the Roman superpush? Why sweep dirt into the house?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 26, 2017 0:05:33 GMT -5
He'll be back to resume his super push while folks still complain about Roman Reigns and blissfully ignoring that Balor been made to look way stronger than Roman at his peak. I like both dudes but facts are facts. No one brought up the Roman superpush. Why are you bringing up the Roman superpush? Why sweep dirt into the house? I'm just pointing out before Finn went down with his injury, he pinned Roman clean in his second match on the main roster and won the newly created Universal title all within a month. That is how you make someone look strong. He's going back on his throne once he is cleared. No fighting Jinder Mahal in a toss away segment on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 0:16:48 GMT -5
I was getting really bored of Balor during his run as NXT Champion. But when he made his Raw Debut Raw did feel fresh and I welcome anyone else that isn't Rollins/Reigns/Owens in the Raw Main Event Scene. So please return. I won't even be mad if he wins The Rumble and challenges for The Universal Championship. Like yeah dude will get instantly stale after he wins the title and has a long dominant babyface championship run that mirrors his NXT Championship reign, but he'll feel fresh in the short term for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 0:17:31 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest Finn Fann in the world, but he's one of few Rumble winner options I'm okay with. Like he bores me to the bone in his current incarnation, but him winning is a good story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 0:21:40 GMT -5
I was getting really bored of Balor during his run as NXT Champion. But when he made his Raw Debut Raw did feel fresh and I welcome anyone else that isn't Rollins/Reigns/Owens in the Raw Main Event Scene. So please return. I won't even be mad if he wins The Rumble and challenges for The Universal Championship. Like yeah dude will get instantly stale after he wins the title and has a long dominant babyface championship run that mirrors his NXT Championship reign, but he'll feel fresh in the short term for sure. That's where I'm at on it. I hated Balor's NXT title run, and he's always felt like he's missing something to me, but I haven't really minded his main roster stuff outside of them refusing to shut up with saying the words Demon King every five seconds and there are people on Raw I'd be way, way more annoyed to see in that position so whatever, I'd be game for Finn.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Jan 26, 2017 1:39:41 GMT -5
He'll be back to resume his super push while folks still complain about Roman Reigns and blissfully ignoring that Balor been made to look way stronger than Roman at his peak. I like both dudes but facts are facts. Even if this is true, I'm not seeing any contradiction/hypocrisy. There's nothing wrong with a babyface megapush when it involves a performer who the majority of fans are getting behind. The issue with Roman has never been that he's the company's chosen one, period. The issue is, he's been the chosen one whilst the majority of the paying crowds continue to reject him in that role. They want someone else in that spot, someone they legitimately like and want to cheer for as a dominant face. So far, Balor looks to be one of those guys. The fans mostly liked him getting the "look strong" push from day one. That's a huge difference. I'm a fan of the dude myself and hope they strap the rocket to him the moment he's back, as with Bryan's tragically interrupted career, we're overdue for a legit babyface holding the strap for a good long while.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 26, 2017 4:18:48 GMT -5
He'll be back to resume his super push while folks still complain about Roman Reigns and blissfully ignoring that Balor been made to look way stronger than Roman at his peak. I like both dudes but facts are facts. Even if this is true, I'm not seeing any contradiction/hypocrisy. There's nothing wrong with a babyface megapush when it involves a performer who the majority of fans are getting behind. The issue with Roman has never been that he's the company's chosen one, period. The issue is, he's been the chosen one whilst the majority of the paying crowds continue to reject him in that role. They want someone else in that spot, someone they legitimately like and want to cheer for as a dominant face. So far, Balor looks to be one of those guys. The fans mostly liked him getting the "look strong" push from day one. That's a huge difference. I'm a fan of the dude myself and hope they strap the rocket to him the moment he's back, as with Bryan's tragically interrupted career, we're overdue for a legit babyface holding the strap for a good long while. We know the NXT crowd likes him. We barely got a taste of what he does in front of a more mainstream crowd. Balor been the new Chosen One once he signed a WWE contract. He didn't start from the bottom. He was already here. People forget that Roman was beloved by fans in different sectors before WWE commenced his ascension to the throne hardcore. Then the rejection came because people like to rage against the Machine when it comes to who they support. Once they become accepted & part of the machine do people start turning. Months of Finn winning straight up will not go down as easy as we think. Backlash was happening online towards him while in NXT. WWE management tossed him back in the Demon paint because without it, he was just a regular dude since they didn't really bother developing him while in developmental. Like Sami Zayn but Irish and drier. Him getting hurt set the reset button. Will the same fans still be hot for him or like Zayn, got to fight to re-earn that love after returning from a career stalling injury? Jury is still out.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 26, 2017 4:22:28 GMT -5
I am no fan of Balor but at least him against Jericho, Roman and Seth would be reasonably fresh. No more Owens though, thanks. I have had enough of that to last me a lifetime.
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 26, 2017 6:52:58 GMT -5
If I were to make one criticism of Finn, it's this: he needs to be set free from the "WWE style" with which he and others have been hobbled with. The aerial stuff won't be enough for him to look credible as a champion around which to build a brand (which is what they're going to try to do here.) He needs to demonstrate enough variety in his moveset to make people think "This guy's legit - he's the real thing." If anyone could benefit from a time machine and a trip to the Dungeon, it'd be Finn.
I've said before that WWE was going with a Bret Hart-style build, which is a deep departure from their recent practices of heel champion/face chasers that had been the way in NWA/WCW. It doesn't hurt that he's got Ws against Reigns, Rollins, Rusev, and Owens, and I think he and Jericho could put together a match to bring back memories of Y2J's other great rivalry; Cesaro could get his ticket to the main event here; Sheamus could make a comeback as a credible rival against Balor. WWE needs fighting champions to build and rebuild their titles; it's possible to build Finn up as such a one, especially _if_ he can at least look credible against the Strowmans and Corbins and even the Big Shows, Goldbergs and Lesnars.
What _would_ hurt him badly would be any hint of favour from the Authority. He doesn't need Triple H and Stephanie to ride his coattails; the moment there's even a whiff of that, he's a goner.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 26, 2017 9:49:11 GMT -5
Even if this is true, I'm not seeing any contradiction/hypocrisy. There's nothing wrong with a babyface megapush when it involves a performer who the majority of fans are getting behind. The issue with Roman has never been that he's the company's chosen one, period. The issue is, he's been the chosen one whilst the majority of the paying crowds continue to reject him in that role. They want someone else in that spot, someone they legitimately like and want to cheer for as a dominant face. So far, Balor looks to be one of those guys. The fans mostly liked him getting the "look strong" push from day one. That's a huge difference. I'm a fan of the dude myself and hope they strap the rocket to him the moment he's back, as with Bryan's tragically interrupted career, we're overdue for a legit babyface holding the strap for a good long while. We know the NXT crowd likes him. We barely got a taste of what he does in front of a more mainstream crowd. Balor been the new Chosen One once he signed a WWE contract. He didn't start from the bottom. He was already here. People forget that Roman was beloved by fans in different sectors before WWE commenced his ascension to the throne hardcore. Then the rejection came because people like to rage against the Machine when it comes to who they support. Once they become accepted & part of the machine do people start turning. Months of Finn winning straight up will not go down as easy as we think. Backlash was happening online towards him while in NXT. WWE management tossed him back in the Demon paint because without it, he was just a regular dude since they didn't really bother developing him while in developmental. Like Sami Zayn but Irish and drier. Him getting hurt set the reset button. Will the same fans still be hot for him or like Zayn, got to fight to re-earn that love after returning from a career stalling injury? Jury is still out. Balor got one of the pops of the night on the draft and he didn't even show up. the entire crowd was behind him when he was announced as being in the number one contenders matches. the only time the crowd hasn't been 100% for him was the Universal title match where they were busy shitting on the look of the belt itself. Also they didn't "toss him back in the demon paint" for the Universal title match... it's not like he stopped doing the demon schtick before that, it was his first PPV on the main roster... the Demon paint was coming regardless. Now will the WWE crowds turn on him eventually... possibly. But while there were a few people on this board that didn't like him the overwhelming majority of the Audience was absolutely behind him.
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Post by metylerca on Jan 26, 2017 9:56:57 GMT -5
Hopefully he makes the Rumble.
More importantly, hopefully he doesn't rush for the sole purpose of being in the Rumble. Safety first.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 26, 2017 10:19:29 GMT -5
We know the NXT crowd likes him. We barely got a taste of what he does in front of a more mainstream crowd. Balor been the new Chosen One once he signed a WWE contract. He didn't start from the bottom. He was already here. People forget that Roman was beloved by fans in different sectors before WWE commenced his ascension to the throne hardcore. Then the rejection came because people like to rage against the Machine when it comes to who they support. Once they become accepted & part of the machine do people start turning. Months of Finn winning straight up will not go down as easy as we think. Backlash was happening online towards him while in NXT. WWE management tossed him back in the Demon paint because without it, he was just a regular dude since they didn't really bother developing him while in developmental. Like Sami Zayn but Irish and drier. Him getting hurt set the reset button. Will the same fans still be hot for him or like Zayn, got to fight to re-earn that love after returning from a career stalling injury? Jury is still out. Balor got one of the pops of the night on the draft and he didn't even show up. the entire crowd was behind him when he was announced as being in the number one contenders matches. the only time the crowd hasn't been 100% for him was the Universal title match where they were busy shitting on the look of the belt itself. Also they didn't "toss him back in the demon paint" for the Universal title match... it's not like he stopped doing the demon schtick before that, it was his first PPV on the main roster... the Demon paint was coming regardless. Now will the WWE crowds turn on him eventually... possibly. But while there were a few people on this board that didn't like him the overwhelming majority of the Audience was absolutely behind him. I don't count just this board when talking about the Net slowly turning on Finn. This place isn't a good Litmus test on who and what is over. WWE been using the Demon as a crutch for Balor for quite a while. He doesn't wrestle or behave any different from regular Finn. I honestly feel it is done just to sell action figures of him. If Balor comes back and maintain his overness on the main roster for months, cool. But it is too soon to say he won over everyone when he only been in front of the masses for a short while. The fans may hated the Universal title during that match but they could still get behind Finn if he is their boy. I want him to be over because WWE needs people who are and I liked the dude since was a skinny kid named Prince Devitt. But let's be real about this.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 26, 2017 10:24:14 GMT -5
I've argued this before he absolutely adds new stuff to when he's painted up than when he isn't.
It's not supposed to be a completely different person, but he adds more outside dives and attacks to things like the barricade and the ring steps.
Could he do more to differentiate it yes, but to say he doesn't add anything is just flat fallacy.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 26, 2017 10:31:04 GMT -5
I really hope he tries a wider array of designs with his paint when he comes back. I know there are slight variations each time but I think they could get a little more creative with them.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 26, 2017 10:31:55 GMT -5
I really hope he tries a wider array of designs with his paint when he comes back. I know there are slight variations each time but I think they could get a little more creative with them. that's probably a WWE demand to not get too far from the main design so they can market it easier.
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