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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 20, 2017 22:32:01 GMT -5
And I still sit here as the only Roman fan
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Post by saintpat on Mar 20, 2017 22:33:22 GMT -5
Time to bump the All Purpose Roman Reigns Sucks Thread so I don't make another one Dude was universally booed and when he took out Taker it was just straight uncaring silence. No one is buying into this, and if the grand plan is for Roman to be the conquering hero against Lesnar for the Universal Title, someone needs to run a test on Vince to see if he's mentally competent. I didn't take it as "uncaring silence." I took it more as "OK (or maybe wow), he just laid out Taker clean and cold." It could be a mix of both, but I was at a live Raw where Dean Ambrose pinned Cena clean and it wasn't "OMG, CHEER, YEA!!!" It was silence. And I didn't take it as being uncaring. No way to prove it either way, so no point in debating it. What it wasn't, clearly, was "BOOOOO!!! I HATE YOU!!!!" And Roman seemed to me to get more cheers than boos by far tonight (which is actually more often the case, at least that's what I hear). I am not a huge Roman fan nor am I a Roman hater. I think too much is made of this and it's almost always "Not him, book my guy that way." Daniel Bryan''s W-L record in the many months leading up to his WM30 crowning moment was incredible onesided with him winning all the time (while being booked as an underdog, overcoming odds including what was sold as extreme injuries including on the night of WM) and there wasn't a peep about "Superman booking." It all comes down to who's being booked that way, IMO. And for the record, I find you a litlte snarky at times with people who disagree with you, but not unrespectful. I don't have a problem with your posts and find some of them quite insightful even when I disagree.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Mar 20, 2017 22:33:49 GMT -5
And I still sit here as the only Roman fan I'm here too, dude. He's legit one of the few reasons why I watch RAW anymore.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 20, 2017 22:34:38 GMT -5
This is the thing that bothers me. Like part of me would love to protest this shit by canceling my network sub. But I love to watch all the old stuff so its like I'm stuck. Well, that's the sacrifice you might have to consider. They can interpret any gain or loss in revenue or ratings any way they like, just like we can as fans. It may have to take an utterly catastrophic collapse for them to really change. I'm talking 1994/1995 "RAW live from the high school gym" levels of collapse.
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Post by Shai on Mar 20, 2017 22:35:15 GMT -5
And I still sit here as the only Roman fan Every single time I start to like him they do something to make me hate him more.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 20, 2017 22:36:12 GMT -5
And I still sit here as the only Roman fan Every single time I start to like him they do something to make me hate him more. You will join this side eventually, it is only a matter of time
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Post by CubsFan71 on Mar 20, 2017 22:37:22 GMT -5
Well if they plan on having Reigns go over Taker at Wrestlemania clean and play it off as Roman as the conquering hero; they better put the match on last then because you may see a shit ton of empty seats for the rest of the show if they don't.
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Post by saintpat on Mar 20, 2017 22:37:58 GMT -5
And I still sit here as the only Roman fan I'm here too, dude. He's legit one of the few reasons why I watch RAW anymore. I go to a fair amount of WWE shows every year and for a guy who the IWC is convinced is universally unliked, a lot of people sure seem to wear his merch. Sometimes booing a guy gets to be a thing. I have legit seen people wearing Cena merch booing him (and laughing while doing so). So does that mean they like him or hate him? I believe VKM would conclude that it's all about the money, and that merch ain't free.
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Post by Shai on Mar 20, 2017 22:38:47 GMT -5
I never thought I'd be happy the streak is already gone. But here I am.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Mar 20, 2017 22:41:38 GMT -5
I'm here too, dude. He's legit one of the few reasons why I watch RAW anymore. I go to a fair amount of WWE shows every year and for a guy who the IWC is convinced is universally unliked, a lot of people sure seem to wear his merch. Sometimes booing a guy gets to be a thing. I have legit seen people wearing Cena merch booing him (and laughing while doing so). So does that mean they like him or hate him? I believe VKM would conclude that it's all about the money, and that merch ain't free. Another thing I've noticed is sometimes I'll read house show reports online and a constant comment is that Roman actually gets cheered pretty heavily at quite a few of them. So I will admit that when I read those reports and then watch how he gets reacted to on TV, I do have to wonder.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Mar 20, 2017 22:43:35 GMT -5
And I still sit here as the only Roman fan I'm here too, dude. He's legit one of the few reasons why I watch RAW anymore. I don't think he's the worst thing to ever happen to wrestling as most people see him as, but I don't know if I would say I'm a fan of his. He's slightly above average to me.
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Post by saintpat on Mar 20, 2017 22:45:16 GMT -5
I go to a fair amount of WWE shows every year and for a guy who the IWC is convinced is universally unliked, a lot of people sure seem to wear his merch. Sometimes booing a guy gets to be a thing. I have legit seen people wearing Cena merch booing him (and laughing while doing so). So does that mean they like him or hate him? I believe VKM would conclude that it's all about the money, and that merch ain't free. Another thing I've noticed is sometimes I'll read house show reports online and a constant comment is that Roman actually gets cheered pretty heavily at quite a few of them. So I will admit that when I read those reports and then watch how he gets reacted to on TV, I do have to wonder. He gets cheered a ton on TV. You hear the boos (which are also there, but IMO almost always way lesser than the cheers) and it's confirmation bias. Ask yourself this: When people chant back and forth "Let's go Cena/Cena sucks" -- have you ever seen even one person comment that there were people chanting for Cena? It actually has to START with a chant for Cena or there can't be a counterchant that he sucks. But I have seen thousands of message board posts over the years about people booing Cena and chanting that he sucks as evidence that he's almost universally disliked ... which simply is not the case. SOMEBODY is buying all that merch.
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Post by froggyfrog on Mar 20, 2017 22:47:54 GMT -5
I really do like Roman as a performer but the way they book him makes it hard to be into him atm
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Mar 20, 2017 22:48:30 GMT -5
Another thing I've noticed is sometimes I'll read house show reports online and a constant comment is that Roman actually gets cheered pretty heavily at quite a few of them. So I will admit that when I read those reports and then watch how he gets reacted to on TV, I do have to wonder. He gets cheered a ton on TV. You hear the boos (which are also there, but IMO almost always way lesser than the cheers) and it's confirmation bias. Ask yourself this: When people chant back and forth "Let's go Cena/Cena sucks" -- have you ever seen even one person comment that there were people chanting for Cena? It actually has to START with a chant for Cena or there can't be a counterchant that he sucks. But I have seen thousands of message board posts over the years about people booing Cena and chanting that he sucks as evidence that he's almost universally disliked ... which simply is not the case. SOMEBODY is buying all that merch. To be fair, a lot of those pro cheers are kids. I was one of the few adults in Milwaukee (which was red hot for the first Reigns/Strowman match) cheering for Reigns. And every time Cena is in Green Bay that I've seen, it's the same thing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 20, 2017 22:48:31 GMT -5
Every single time I start to like him they do something to make me hate him more. You will join this side eventually, it is only a matter of time Not when you make it sound like a shitty cult
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Post by Shai on Mar 20, 2017 22:49:24 GMT -5
It a not even really Roman. It's the way he's being handled. Roman is not bad in the ring or on the mic. He sounds awful with the cornball shit they have him say. Like I swear you can tell sometimes that he's not having fun with it, he's just reciting the script.
There have been SO many backstage little clips where you can see his charisma and see what they see in him. Then he says some bad sitcom one liner and it all goes down the tubes.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 20, 2017 22:50:19 GMT -5
Time to bump the All Purpose Roman Reigns Sucks Thread so I don't make another one Dude was universally booed and when he took out Taker it was just straight uncaring silence. No one is buying into this, and if the grand plan is for Roman to be the conquering hero against Lesnar for the Universal Title, someone needs to run a test on Vince to see if he's mentally competent. I didn't take it as "uncaring silence." I took it more as "OK (or maybe wow), he just laid out Taker clean and cold." It could be a mix of both, but I was at a live Raw where Dean Ambrose pinned Cena clean and it wasn't "OMG, CHEER, YEA!!!" It was silence. And I didn't take it as being uncaring. No way to prove it either way, so no point in debating it. What it wasn't, clearly, was "BOOOOO!!! I HATE YOU!!!!" And Roman seemed to me to get more cheers than boos by far tonight (which is actually more often the case, at least that's what I hear). I am not a huge Roman fan nor am I a Roman hater. I think too much is made of this and it's almost always "Not him, book my guy that way." Daniel Bryan''s W-L record in the many months leading up to his WM30 crowning moment was incredible onesided with him winning all the time (while being booked as an underdog, overcoming odds including what was sold as extreme injuries including on the night of WM) and there wasn't a peep about "Superman booking." It all comes down to who's being booked that way, IMO. And for the record, I find you a litlte snarky at times with people who disagree with you, but not unrespectful. I don't have a problem with your posts and find some of them quite insightful even when I disagree.Well I appreciate that, because it gets quite irritating I suppose when people dismiss why I contest something and try and call me a hypocrite on some fronts when I could call the exact same if not worse behavior done by them or other posters here, it's a whole guffaw of a time.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 20, 2017 22:50:31 GMT -5
You will join this side eventually, it is only a matter of time Not when you make it sound like a shitty cult Bruh, I am not nice like Jim Jones I will make you drink the kool aid
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 20, 2017 22:52:13 GMT -5
I think one of the biggest problems with Roman is when he's clearly trying to get over a statement or a phrase but he has all the emotional delivery and cadence of plastic.
"This is my yard now!" should be such an emphatic or egotistical statement that should command respect even if not deserved and have a brash arrogance to it of someone who feels he is superior to the person he's saying it to, instead it's delivered as flat as humanly possible
And they paid for this dude to take acting classes when he was recovering from a hernia. I'd get your money back...
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Post by saintpat on Mar 20, 2017 22:54:18 GMT -5
I didn't take it as "uncaring silence." I took it more as "OK (or maybe wow), he just laid out Taker clean and cold." It could be a mix of both, but I was at a live Raw where Dean Ambrose pinned Cena clean and it wasn't "OMG, CHEER, YEA!!!" It was silence. And I didn't take it as being uncaring. No way to prove it either way, so no point in debating it. What it wasn't, clearly, was "BOOOOO!!! I HATE YOU!!!!" And Roman seemed to me to get more cheers than boos by far tonight (which is actually more often the case, at least that's what I hear). I am not a huge Roman fan nor am I a Roman hater. I think too much is made of this and it's almost always "Not him, book my guy that way." Daniel Bryan''s W-L record in the many months leading up to his WM30 crowning moment was incredible onesided with him winning all the time (while being booked as an underdog, overcoming odds including what was sold as extreme injuries including on the night of WM) and there wasn't a peep about "Superman booking." It all comes down to who's being booked that way, IMO. And for the record, I find you a litlte snarky at times with people who disagree with you, but not unrespectful. I don't have a problem with your posts and find some of them quite insightful even when I disagree.Well I appreciate that, because it gets quite irritating I suppose when people dismiss why I contest something and try and call me a hypocrite on some fronts when I could call the exact same if not worse behavior done by them or other posters here, it's a whole guffaw of a time. Well if not for the KO gif and 100 likes, I'd hate your guts. (I kid)
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