Gus Richlen: Ruffian
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 30, 2017 2:00:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind the Roman push if they kept him as the silent badass enforcer. He worked extremely well that way and fans popped for him and his offense. The minute they had him talking, telling nursery rhyme jokes, and attempting to be a smartass it was immediately over. That aura was gone and there wasn't anyway of reclaiming it. They can reclaim it. It would take some work but it can be done. It's hard to say anyone is unsalvageable in WWE because they have been able to save some acts that've been flopping before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 2:03:11 GMT -5
He has continually good matches and isn't booked any crappier than the other top faces. Facing / beating the same heel every single week for literally months on end with the endgame of, "This time Owens can't have the back-up who's been completely useless to him the entire feud!" is still pretty terrible booking, and on a personal level every Reigns / Owens, Reigns / Jericho, and Reigns / Rusev match we've been getting for the bulk of the year has been incredibly boring. I will grant the match at the Rumble was easily the best he and Owens have had though, and I probably would've liked it had this feud by now had not beaten me down into just not giving a damn.
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Post by ayumidah on Jan 30, 2017 2:03:36 GMT -5
There can be threads until we're blue in the face. WWE doesn't care.
Stop subscribing to the network. Stop tweeting about the shows. Stop going to events involving Roman. They may listen then if enough people do it. Otherwise, Vince will keep beating this dead horse and nothing will change.
Me, I let my subscription lapse a couple of months ago when they first announced Roman vs Owens at Roadblock end of the line and I just sat here and laughed when it hit my twitter feed this evening that Roman was #30 because really what the hell else can ya do.
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Post by Captain & Diet on Jan 30, 2017 2:09:55 GMT -5
You all wanted a Samoan at #30 named Joe... not sure who else you'd be looking for. We wanted Samoa Joe not Samoa No.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jan 30, 2017 3:18:14 GMT -5
Yeah I think it's heel turn seeds been planted.
We will probably find out he took out a guy backstage to steal his Rumble spot.
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Post by Dang! on Jan 30, 2017 4:04:19 GMT -5
Orton got the biggest pop in decades for saving us from Succotash winning again. If Roman had won, that would have been THE single worst babyface booking in all of pro wrestling. You heard the crowd react to his surprise entry, you heard the HUGE babyface pop for the heel eliminating him. GET A MOTHERf***ING CLUE AND ABORT THIS PUSH!
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Post by Bungle on Jan 30, 2017 4:12:11 GMT -5
Actually it worked pretty well.
I want him destroy and retire The Undertaker forever.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jan 30, 2017 4:12:28 GMT -5
*countdown to 30*
"Please be Balor, please for some reason let him have been cleared and be Balor..."
*Reigns music hits*
"seriously?!"
*Reigns lookin' strong like usual*
"Vince get the f*** off of this dudes jock already!"
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Literally how it went down watching it. Word for word.
Then add on me throwing my arms in the air when Orton won instead of Bray, and then the let down of the arms coming down when I realized what WM's main event is going to be....
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Post by katiemorgan67212 on Jan 30, 2017 4:29:02 GMT -5
The anti-Roman sentiment makes absolutely no sense to me. He is great. I will be excited to see whatever match he is in at Wrestlemania and if it is against Undertaker - Roman should absolutely win.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 30, 2017 4:39:26 GMT -5
That was so anti-climatic.
I felt surely they've saved somebody good for the #30 spot, especially with the dramatic delay between the counter hitting zero and the music hitting.
Angle? Samoa Joe? Bobby Roode? Daniel Bryan? Nakamura? A returning Balor?
No, we get The Big Dog.
My excitement just deflated like a burst balloon. I can't remember the last time I felt so disappointed.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 30, 2017 4:46:32 GMT -5
Guys, this is totally ending with Undertaker losing, and passing the torch to Reigns, all the while looking like he just swallowed a pie made of dogshit. And then Reigns'll go back to chasing the title off either Owens or Jericho. You know this is how it's going to end. There's no avoiding it.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 30, 2017 5:18:13 GMT -5
You all wanted a Samoan at #30 named Joe... not sure who else you'd be looking for. Jesus, I didn't even notice that Joe wasn't in the Rumble...talk about a missed opportunity. At least they got the Tye coming in at #10 right, but still, that's a huge blown shot.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 30, 2017 5:57:38 GMT -5
WWE knew what they were doing with bringing out Roman as number 30. They wanted someone who they knew most of the crowd was going to turn on to be the person to eliminate the Undertaker and would make the crowd actually wholeheartedly want Orton to win. Granted Orton is over but sending someone out like Finn or Samoa Joe out kills that. You know it. WWE knows it. So Roman got the role of the Cooler. The guy who take the flack and heat off Orton winning the Rumble. Just like how Brock was the person chosen to end the Streak. And when he turns heel again, the same folks calling for his head will be on his dick. Ain't that right, Miz.
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 30, 2017 6:05:10 GMT -5
And shortly after the close of the PPV, we get this. You know, just to remind us that they'd never said he'd be cleared in time, just that they'd done some testing.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 30, 2017 8:08:12 GMT -5
He was only there to make sure people don't boo Orton
and to tease Taker match
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Jan 30, 2017 8:21:24 GMT -5
I felt bad for him
Had a long physical match earlier and had to be banged up
Had to know he'd get booed out of the building as the #30 entrant
Vince is an asshole sometimes
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Post by Indifference Abounds on Jan 30, 2017 8:25:10 GMT -5
I felt that if Roman had to be in the Rumble they used him just about as well as they could have within the scope of their plans. Coming out at #30 meant that he didn't overshadow any of their planned spots or confrontations, he took out Taker in a manner that builds towards a feud for them and shows off some heelish tendencies, and ultimately he served to get the audience further behind the winner than they might've been in other circumstances.
I was disappointed at the time - I hadn't even considered that he would be in the match - but in the end I don't mind Roman showing up like he did. My only real complaint is that they did this in a year where the eventual winner was someone like Orton rather than someone less established who would really benefit from denying the Big Dog.
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Post by héad.casé on Jan 30, 2017 8:53:58 GMT -5
Yeah I kinda think WWE did this Roman Rumble entry by design this year. Like people said - I think this is the reaction they were hoping for and they got it. They knew Roman entering at 30 would deflate people or piss them off, they knew he'd get booed for eliminating Taker.
Unlike the last two Rumbles, this year I think they got the reaction they wanted.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 30, 2017 9:23:13 GMT -5
He was only there to make sure people don't boo Orton and to tease Taker match Doesn't mean it wasn't a giant let down. Keep Miz in the rumble as the last guy, have #30 be someone special like Balor or Angle to get a crowd pop. Miz eliminates them to huge boos, Orton eliminates Miz to get a pop. Job done without deflating everybodies hype by shoving Reigns out there as the last guy.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 30, 2017 9:33:46 GMT -5
Honestly, at this point he's way better than most everyone else getting big Mania matches. This just feels like leftover hate from 2015. He has continually good matches and isn't booked any crappier than the other top faces. Reigns feuds literally have gone the same exact way for the past year. Reigns wins not even in the LOL Cena Wins at the PPV way. Reigns looks strong every god damned week. The heel is never allowed to look competent with Roman. his feud with Rusev over the US title lasted for months and basically Rusev managed to walk away the winner one week. the Owens feud has pretty much been the same way... Roman wins regardless if Owens cheats, regardless if Jericho interferes... regardless if Roman is shot in the face... at the end of the day Roman is the one left standing and then Cole wonders if Roman can win at the PPV with Jericho suspended in a shark cage... when Jericho hasn't really made a damned bit of difference up to that point. If they are planning on finally turning him heel good... he can probably kill it as a heel... but it may very well be too damned late for some of the crowd.
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