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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 17, 2017 14:27:38 GMT -5
Which reminds me, Michael Bay complaining about the "12 people on the Internet" during the Transformers commentary.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 17, 2017 14:59:41 GMT -5
Now how about GREAT commentaries? When I think of that I usually jump to the Puni-Poemy commentary track just for how wacky and quotable it is. The commentary for A Nightmare on Elm Street that features Wes Craven, Heather Langenkamp, John Saxon, and one other guy, and Wes Craven's solo commentary for A New Nightmare. Also the commentaries for Scream, Scream 2, and Scream 3 featuring Wes Craven. Basically if Wes Craven was giving commentary on a horror movie, it was good. He was just somebody you wanted to listen to. The commentaries on the Firefly sets are entertaining. Speaking of Firefly, if Joss Whedon is giving commentary for Buffy or Firefly, it's usually really good. The cast commentary for the Smallville episode "Red" was hilarious, in about the last 10 minutes, everything goes off the rails thanks to Tom Welling forgetting who one of the characters for the episode was.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 17, 2017 15:05:46 GMT -5
Now how about GREAT commentaries? When I think of that I usually jump to the Puni-Poemy commentary track just for how wacky and quotable it is. The commentary for A Nightmare on Elm Street that features Wes Craven, Heather Langenkamp, John Saxon, and one other guy, and Wes Craven's solo commentary for A New Nightmare. Also the commentaries for Scream, Scream 2, and Scream 3 featuring Wes Craven. Basically if Wes Craven was giving commentary on a horror movie, it was good. He was just somebody you wanted to listen to. The commentaries on the Firefly sets are entertaining. Speaking of Firefly, if Joss Whedon is giving commentary for Buffy or Firefly, it's usually really good. The cast commentary for the Smallville episode "Red" was hilarious, in about the last 10 minutes, everything goes off the rails thanks to Tom Welling forgetting who one of the characters for the episode was. For great commentaries both the Clerks cartoon, and the Mr. Show ones are fantastic.
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Post by Hurbster on Feb 17, 2017 15:38:38 GMT -5
I really hated the Dodgeball one. If you are going to do that then just don't bother and stop wasting people's time.
Conversely, the first Resident Evil movie has fantastic commentary. Everyone sounds as if they are having fun.
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Post by cosmo on Feb 17, 2017 16:09:04 GMT -5
Conversely, the first Resident Evil movie has fantastic commentary. Everyone sounds as if they are having fun. I always get a laugh out of that one, just for the one part where Paul WS Anderson is going on about some boring technical thing, and Milla Jovovich interrupts and goes, "Who cares about that shit, you can see my boobs in this scene." She's a lady that knows what the people care about.
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Post by Mrs. Potato Dick on Feb 17, 2017 16:09:10 GMT -5
The commentary for A Nightmare on Elm Street that features Wes Craven, Heather Langenkamp, John Saxon, and one other guy, and Wes Craven's solo commentary for A New Nightmare. Also the commentaries for Scream, Scream 2, and Scream 3 featuring Wes Craven. Basically if Wes Craven was giving commentary on a horror movie, it was good. He was just somebody you wanted to listen to. The commentaries on the Firefly sets are entertaining. Speaking of Firefly, if Joss Whedon is giving commentary for Buffy or Firefly, it's usually really good. The cast commentary for the Smallville episode "Red" was hilarious, in about the last 10 minutes, everything goes off the rails thanks to Tom Welling forgetting who one of the characters for the episode was. For great commentaries both the Clerks cartoon, and the Mr. Show ones are fantastic. Honestly, the single greatest commentary for me is UHF. Al is super technical, but keeps it hilarious with behind the scenes stories about casting, filming, all kinds of great stuff along with guests that don't overstay their welcome. Favorite moment from the commentary is when Al suggests that the world would be a better place if everone drove around in those Shriner cars. To which Michael Richards added '....and carried handguns."
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Post by Sparvid on Feb 17, 2017 18:32:10 GMT -5
Conversely, the first Resident Evil movie has fantastic commentary. Everyone sounds as if they are having fun. I always get a laugh or if that one, just for the one part where Paul WS Anderson is going on about some boring technical thing, and Milla Jovovich interrupts and goes, "Who cares about that shit, you can see my boobs in this scene." She's a lady that knows what the people care about. In the (partial) Pirates of the Caribbean commentary with Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley, Keira on multiple occasions praises the make-up artists for giving her cleavage.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 17, 2017 19:29:06 GMT -5
I always get a laugh or if that one, just for the one part where Paul WS Anderson is going on about some boring technical thing, and Milla Jovovich interrupts and goes, "Who cares about that shit, you can see my boobs in this scene." She's a lady that knows what the people care about. Fun fact, I have that commentary track set as the default audio on my digital copy of that movie. Milla and Michelle Rodriguez just sound like a blast to hang out with. In the (partial) Pirates of the Caribbean commentary with Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley, Keira on multiple occasions praises the make-up artists for giving her cleavage. It's Jack Davenport on that Pirates commentary, not Orlando. And it's fantastic ("He's symbolically whacking his anvil!"/"It's so hard, darling!"), I don't know why it was only a partial, since the Gore Verbinsky and Johnny Depp track is kinda dry.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 17, 2017 23:12:51 GMT -5
Terror of MechaGodzilla (from the TOHO Master Collection) - they got some Godzilla historians (aka fanboys) to do to be fair a very insightful commentary on the final Godzilla film of the Showa era. But they do it without an once of charisma they sound more like robots reading off a sheet of paper. I wouldn't consider it the worst Godzilla commentary I've heard (that would belong to the folks on the Godzilla 2000 disc, who had some sort of involvement in its import to the US but very little else, and it shows). They're definitely dry, I'll give you that (and yeah, definitely reading their notes to cram in all of their info). It *does* frustrate me to know end when they (Keith Aiken and Bob Johnson) are discussing a scene where a character suddenly disappears before being fully off-screen, and end up chalking it up to a continuity error/mistake, yet while they're talking, they completely miss another character doing the same thing more plainly, showing it was intentional and the aliens can teleport. Otherwise, even though it's dry, I enjoy them for how much info they cram into it. The one in that series that gets to me a bit is the one for All Monsters Attack (aka Godzilla's Revenge) by Richard Pusateri. Dude's a seriously nice guy, but his delivery has this hard-to-describe obnoxious quality to it that makes me want to kick him in the knee.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Feb 17, 2017 23:56:44 GMT -5
Dodgeball and Anchorman are both absolute drizzling shits, as everybody participating in both are playing characters, pretending not to know each other and/or hating each other. For TV shows, a few tracks for The Simpsons are terrible. In the 8th season, Josh Weinstein brought his kids to do two episodes & they ruined the experience, along with Bill Oakley, the other executive producer, only bothering with two episodes (though I think Oakley is very snide and condescending on commentary). "They Saved Lisa's Brain" spent 15 minutes on a stupid prank over a joke about East St. Louis. "Brawl in the Family" had the man who voiced Gabriel ask questions for 13 minutes straight. And a track on the 14th season was just them ragging on a fan who sent a letter complaining about their commentaries. I'm currently watching through all the Simpsons DVD commentaries and most of them are good but you definitely brought up some notable stinkers. 'Brawl in the Family' was particularly torturous. The guy who voiced Gabriel was really boring and seemed full of himself. Even the crew seemed like they couldn't wait for it to be over.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 17, 2017 23:57:10 GMT -5
An excellent commentary is Evil Dead with Bruce Campbell. Also funny is that his track has him poking fun at Sam Raimi's cruelty towards him on-set, and the Raimi commentary track has him poking fun at Bruce in turn, but yeah, Campbell's got charm for days so his is the easier listen.
The Invader Zim commentary tracks also tended to be pretty solid.
As for bad, hmm. any time when it's just super dry and impersonal.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 18, 2017 0:40:33 GMT -5
Game of Thrones has some of the best and worst commentaries I've heard. On one hand you have the producers droning on about technical crap but on the other you get great things like this:
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 18, 2017 1:00:25 GMT -5
An excellent commentary is Evil Dead with Bruce Campbell. Also funny is that his track has him poking fun at Sam Raimi's cruelty towards him on-set, and the Raimi commentary track has him poking fun at Bruce in turn, but yeah, Campbell's got charm for days so his is the easier listen. The Invader Zim commentary tracks also tended to be pretty solid. As for bad, hmm. any time when it's just super dry and impersonal. Came here to say this. I love Bruce's deadpan delivery too on certain scenes. "And here's where we lose half the audience." You know what scene I mean.
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Post by SmashTV on Feb 18, 2017 12:15:33 GMT -5
Dodgeball and Anchorman are both absolute drizzling shits, as everybody participating in both are playing characters, pretending not to know each other and/or hating each other. I was going to say this about Anchorman. I put it on and waited for it to begin...and waited...and waited...until I realised that this WAS the commentary. It's one of those 'seemed like a good idea in theory' moments, but it's only Ferrell and co. having fun.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 18, 2017 22:46:31 GMT -5
I highly recommend someone start a separate thread for good commentaries, I'd like to keep this one on-topic.
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 18, 2017 23:08:15 GMT -5
Dodgeball and Anchorman are both absolute drizzling shits, as everybody participating in both are playing characters, pretending not to know each other and/or hating each other. I was going to say this about Anchorman. I put it on and waited for it to begin...and waited...and waited...until I realised that this WAS the commentary. It's one of those 'seemed like a good idea in theory' moments, but it's only Ferrell and co. having fun. It does at least have some decent comedic riffs though, like the running joke about Surgeon/General/Major Lou Rawls. And its still funnier than Anchorman 2, not that that takes much.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 19, 2017 0:20:23 GMT -5
Another one I have to mention is the Adam West/Burt Ward commentary on the Batman '66 movie. Just them rather dryly describing what's on screen and the occasional anecdote. I would't call it horrible but it was really lacking.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Feb 19, 2017 1:12:54 GMT -5
I remember being really disappointed with the commentary track for the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake, as I expected some real insightful knowledge on what it was like remaking such a classic movie, and instead got Zach Snyder being the Brosiest Bro that ever Bro'ed, calling all the technical crew Rock Stars, and....well, that's pretty much it.
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