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Post by MrElijah on Feb 19, 2017 20:37:21 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired. If Jarrett fires Matthews, he could come out of retirement and beat Lashley clean, and I wouldn't complain. Let's not say things we can't take back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 21:22:32 GMT -5
Jarrett's database is actually his EWR data In all fairness, that wouldn't even be a bad thing- anyone with an EWR game could have salvaged TNA from the depths. Uh... Not really. I wanted to burn that to the ground.
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 19, 2017 21:55:33 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired. If Jarrett fires Matthews, he could come out of retirement and beat Lashley clean, and I wouldn't complain. Yes Jarrett should get far, far away from any Matthews.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 19, 2017 21:59:41 GMT -5
No but I don't mean a quick fix as in "bring in someone big and do a huge shake-up angle", I mean completely overhaul what they're doing on a creative level and go in a different direction. The Broken Matt saga is the first noteworthy and well received thing TNA has done in years, and it was unlike anything they had ever done before. But the show was bogged down by otherwise being more of the same, and the only time a "big Hardy shenanigans" episode wasn't bogged down by ninety minutes of a boring-ass wrestling show before that point was the episode that was entirely Hardy stuff, which is why outside of the one-week pops they'd get off of the ratings, most people didn't really stick around and in the long run it didn't mean very much of anything to growing an audience. TNA doesn't need a quick fix, they need to come up with a long-term direction of where they are going to take the show into, course correct into that, and roll with it. And people may not like it but I do not see the long term planning involving the Hardys. No way you are building the show around their "freak show" as it is most effective when given time so they have to make a decision soon as I believe their contracts are going to run out soon. It is going to be interesting to see the direction they go in for these tapings in regards to Hardys and Drew Galloway contracts running out While I do agree, and I definitely see a WWE run in the not too distant future, I don't know what TNA has to offer if they don't have the Hardys. If you took them away right now and looked at who the next most over talent is, you've got... maybe Moose or Bobby Lashley? Certainly nobody who makes people that don't watch Impact to tune in specifically to see them like the Hardys.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 19, 2017 22:04:31 GMT -5
Translation:
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2017 22:09:28 GMT -5
And people may not like it but I do not see the long term planning involving the Hardys. No way you are building the show around their "freak show" as it is most effective when given time so they have to make a decision soon as I believe their contracts are going to run out soon. It is going to be interesting to see the direction they go in for these tapings in regards to Hardys and Drew Galloway contracts running out While I do agree, and I definitely see a WWE run in the not too distant future, I don't know what TNA has to offer if they don't have the Hardys. If you took them away right now and looked at who the next most over talent is, you've got... maybe Moose or Bobby Lashley? Certainly nobody who makes people that don't watch Impact to tune in specifically to see them like the Hardys. That is why they need to think long term. At this point the Hardy adventures benefit the Hardys 85% more than it does impact because they get to tour and do their own thing in the name "madness". The Hardys are in Mexico, ROH, and all over the country but are any of these people working with TNA long term? This is the stuff they have to think about because your top two stars are on the road or at home doing their own thing and while yes the rating does pop when you announce an all Hardy impact but every week after the ratings go back to status quo. The biggest loss TNA would have from Hardys leaving is the connections they have because of them.
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Post by schizo on Feb 19, 2017 23:30:45 GMT -5
Two things I think they need to do before anything
1. Fire Josh Mathews. Seriously, this guy needs to go. His embarrassing rants and twitter exchanges has made the company look bad (among other things) for still employing him, he's pretty much disrespecting damn new anyone he feels like on social media and the company shows no sign of disciplinary action. And I haven't even mentioned his commentary sence I haven't watched a single impact sence he was brought it and from what I hear he's pretty damn awful. Like, why does TNA feel the need to keep him around.
2. Get rid of the TNA name altogether. You could improve your product, hire amazing wrestlers, and have awesome storylines but aslong as the company's name is 'TNA', they're still gonna look down upon. It's a really stupid name to have for you're company especially sence it was supposly named as joke or something. I mean just name the damn company "Impact Wrestling" and go from there, it's a decent enough name for a wrestling brand IMO.
But that's how I feel about this situation, it's not much but its a good start.
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Post by ayumidah on Feb 20, 2017 0:23:44 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how Spud does as producer.
During an interview with Newsweek, Jeff Jarrett and new TNA President Ed Nordholm gave their thoughts on Dixie Carter's job of running the company for several years...
Jarrett: "It was a black-eye on the industry. It wasn’t fruitful for anyone—whether you’re a fan of, a wrestler, an employee. It was a really ugly, unfortunate situation. It wasn’t good for the industry."
Nordholm: "The buck has to stop someplace. The reality is the company got into a dire position and she was CEO. There was never any question [she wouldn’t be involved in the day-to-day operations], but not out of any particular animosity. If we’re going to invest...we’re owner-operators, we’re not passive investors. If we’re going to own it, we’re going to own it."
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Feb 20, 2017 3:12:49 GMT -5
Let me guess:
A stable will form featuring .. you guessed it: Ex WWE Talent!
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Post by wankah on Feb 20, 2017 4:41:25 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired. Think he'll be off the commentary booth soon, but fired compleetely? That shit ain't happening. I'd wager on Josh becoming the epitomy of his real life persona on screen in the role of a heel manager. Just wait as the smug prick will be spamming the twitter and "working the smarks" to the bone with self-endorsing bullshit and thinking he's the greatest character since Broken Matt.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 20, 2017 5:28:31 GMT -5
He's not saying they aren't going to be trying new and different things, just that no one should expect them all at once because that hasn't gone over well in the past. There will definitely be changes, but they will be ongoing and in stages. What? This is TNA. I demand crazy terrible gimmicks and rating grabs: Give Eli Drake a puppet gimmick, make DCC time travelers, Jeff Hardy doing dumbass bumps with little advertising, etc.
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Post by r. on Feb 21, 2017 15:20:56 GMT -5
I'll say it again, It wasn't like pre Dixie TNA was setting the world on fire, It certainly had more fan sympathy then the dead mutilated husk it is now.
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 21, 2017 17:00:17 GMT -5
Imagine they do something interesting? When was the last time they had the book before Dixie? Was it it before S.E.X.?
2005 until 2010 TNA had a ton of problems, but at least I cared to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 17:27:31 GMT -5
Imagine they do something interesting? When was the last time they had the book before Dixie? Was it it before S.E.X.? 2005 until 2010 TNA had a ton of problems, but at least I cared to watch. Dixie got involved around the first year after HealthSouth went bust. And, that era of TNA made you wonder if it'd live longer than WWA or XWF, which both believed in utilizing ex WCW & WWF talent front and center. Surprised nobody discussed that analogy these days.
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Post by r. on Feb 21, 2017 19:14:02 GMT -5
Imagine they do something interesting? When was the last time they had the book before Dixie? Was it it before S.E.X.? 2005 until 2010 TNA had a ton of problems, but at least I cared to watch. TNA is a non entity, Unless they decide to rebrand the entire thing as something new they are stuck with damaged goods.
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Post by eJm on Feb 21, 2017 19:17:12 GMT -5
He's not saying they aren't going to be trying new and different things, just that no one should expect them all at once because that hasn't gone over well in the past. There will definitely be changes, but they will be ongoing and in stages. As much as that's true, this is the same company that doesn't know the meaning of doing things in stages. They do new eras like days of the week.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 22, 2017 6:28:34 GMT -5
Taking it back to 2008, muthaf***ers!!
Again, things have gotten to the point of where we are happy for the regime (While they did positive things for the company also did the bad TNA tropes we love & hate) to return back to power. I give it a year before folks are calling for their heads like before.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 7:48:06 GMT -5
Honestly Jarrett's involvement makes me way, way less interested in TNA than anything. I've seen Jarrett's booking, at best you get someone booking like it's 1970 and at worst you get like it's 1999.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Feb 22, 2017 10:02:10 GMT -5
I'm up for all the changes so long as Josh is fired. josh vs. lashley shoot fight losers fired Josh: I'm the greatest play by play man! Lashley: Wanna jump in the ring and prove it? Josh: Sure. I'll even kick your ass! Who loves you bobby? Lashley: That's not wise, Mr.Matthews
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 22, 2017 11:58:00 GMT -5
Two things I think they need to do before anything 1. Fire Josh Mathews. Seriously, this guy needs to go. His embarrassing rants and twitter exchanges has made the company look bad (among other things) for still employing him, he's pretty much disrespecting damn new anyone he feels like on social media and the company shows no sign of disciplinary action. And I haven't even mentioned his commentary sence I haven't watched a single impact sence he was brought it and from what I hear he's pretty damn awful. Like, why does TNA feel the need to keep him around. 2. Get rid of the TNA name altogether. You could improve your product, hire amazing wrestlers, and have awesome storylines but aslong as the company's name is 'TNA', they're still gonna look down upon. It's a really stupid name to have for you're company especially sence it was supposly named as joke or something. I mean just name the damn company "Impact Wrestling" and go from there, it's a decent enough name for a wrestling brand IMO. But that's how I feel about this situation, it's not much but its a good start. Didn't they officially change the name to Impact Wtestling with that godawful owl logo?
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