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Post by psychokiller on Feb 22, 2017 15:00:29 GMT -5
They pretty much out of nowhere gave him the title without him doing anything that meaningful prior to that. Really the only thing significant that he did was win the Smackdown vs. Raw Survivor Series match with Orton. Then he won the tag titles by beating Slater & Rhyno which is good but not exactly an accomplishment that will make someone reach main event status. I just feel they booked him poorly for literally a few years straight, then they think they can just push him out of nowhere & make him champion. They did the same thing with Ambrose too, where he didn't do much then he out of nowhere became champion. I just don't like the booking at all & it's hard to make me see him as a legitimate champ.
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Post by trollrogue on Feb 22, 2017 15:44:54 GMT -5
I agree that the pre-booking for Wyatt was iffy. Goes from being a former tag champ (no singles titles ever) to the TOP belt in all of WWE? A bit of foreplay would a been nice.
But the post-booking (pinning John Cena CLEAN twice in 3 days, the second time after Harper interfered in the match and with AJ Styles involved) has been on pointe.
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 22, 2017 15:57:18 GMT -5
I think the problem is that there was no real reason or point to suddenly putting the belt on Wyatt. I mean WWE jobbed AJ Styles and just HAD to get the title off him before WM....to do a Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton match? I figured these guys would wrestle at WM but as some cheesy midcard match, not any sort of main event.
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Feb 22, 2017 16:39:50 GMT -5
He was mainly given the strap to push the primary Smackdown storyline heading into WM, which is Orton/Wyatt Family discord. I don't think WWE saw Luke Harper coming, so now it has a chance to be much more. What Bray does with the belt in the meantime can only help him.
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Post by twelvegcg on Feb 22, 2017 16:50:04 GMT -5
I agree. It seems completely out of character for Bray Wyatt to even hold a championship. He seems like a character that doesn't need a championship to be "over." Look at Rowdy Roddy Piper. He never needed it. Look at Jake The Snake. He never needed it. I even found it weird when The Undertaker held a championship. He never needed it.
It just seems odd to me. Never once, that I can remember until before the Elimination Chamber, did Bray Wyatt talk about winning a championship or beating a champion for the title. Now I am supposed to watch Bray Wyatt point at the Wrestlemania sign? It just seems strange for his character. His character seems above championships and it seems like being the champion is not why he is there.
I don't know. It just seems odd to me.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 22, 2017 20:02:51 GMT -5
I don't but only because I think the dude is butt cheeks.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Feb 22, 2017 20:06:17 GMT -5
He found Shane's mystery lockbox and in order for him to not reveal what is inside (the pics of Vince with a goat that Funaki gave to JTG), they agreed to put the belt on him for Wrestlemania.
Honestly, I have NO idea why they were so intent on doing this Wyatt/Orton thing for the title. I think the original idea was Cena/Taker for the belt, but then why would Orton win at Royal Rumble? Cena won there, too. The whole thing seems weird.
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 22, 2017 20:13:48 GMT -5
Prior to the Rumble, Orton/Wyatt just felt like it was an angle hovering between the upper-mid card and lower main event that's suddenly been thrust into the title feud for the biggest show of the year. Its like if they had Cody Rhodes win the title from Edge in early 2011, and suddenly the former's WM feud with Mysterio was for the World Heavyweight Championship.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 22, 2017 20:28:45 GMT -5
Not me.
But I've hated his booking since Day 1.
While he's charismatic, they have his character and angles all wrong.
He also doesn't impress me much in the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 20:29:03 GMT -5
I'm surprised that a match that couldn't even take place at Backlash.....BACKLASH is going to be for the wwe title at mania.
Bray's handling during his entire wwe run has been terrible he was given a cool entrance that the crowd reacts to and wwe has really done nothing to help him.I'm not a fan of giving someone the world title because they've been there a long time and has been a good soldier I like when someone's really over and they build to it.
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Post by DSR on Feb 22, 2017 21:03:27 GMT -5
I'm surprised that a match that couldn't even take place at Backlash.....BACKLASH I read this in Joey Styles's voice.
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 23, 2017 12:14:49 GMT -5
I always thought Bray would be the kind of guy where if he won a title he'd just hand it to one of his minions as a reward.
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Post by CertifiedBA on Feb 23, 2017 13:20:45 GMT -5
I'm surprised that a match that couldn't even take place at Backlash.....BACKLASH I read this in Joey Styles's voice. Everyone did
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 23, 2017 13:23:45 GMT -5
Prior to the Rumble, Orton/Wyatt just felt like it was an angle hovering between the upper-mid card and lower main event that's suddenly been thrust into the title feud for the biggest show of the year. Its like if they had Cody Rhodes win the title from Edge in early 2011, and suddenly the former's WM feud with Mysterio was for the World Heavyweight Championship. Yep.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Feb 23, 2017 15:19:43 GMT -5
Prior to the Rumble, Orton/Wyatt just felt like it was an angle hovering between the upper-mid card and lower main event that's suddenly been thrust into the title feud for the biggest show of the year. Its like if they had Cody Rhodes win the title from Edge in early 2011, and suddenly the former's WM feud with Mysterio was for the World Heavyweight Championship. Yep. If a feud needs the World Title to be main event worthy, it's not main event worthy. WWE tried this a million times with Sheamus. I love Bray, but randomly slapping the title on him just made him seem weaker. No build, no epic moment, it just felt like it happened.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Feb 23, 2017 15:40:49 GMT -5
No, I don't buy Wyatt as champion. But I've never liked Wyatt and unlike some people throughout the crevices of the Internet, I'm not going to pretend like he's a wrestling god or that he somehow "deserves" this title run. And it wasn't like his win was some shocking moment that took everyone by surprise. It was obvious he was winning just to give some life to his match with Orton. It's the same reason Goldberg will likely win the title from Owens next Sunday.
I said it before, but Randy Orton didn't need to win the Royal Rumble. It was awful, lazy booking. His match with Wyatt at WM was obvious, you really want me to believe it needed a Rumble win and a Wyatt title run to get there? And obviously they're not comfortable enough with the match being just Wyatt vs. Orton because now they're teasing Styles being involved and it will likely be a triple threat. In my opinion, the whole thing is just a silly, forced mess.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 23, 2017 15:50:25 GMT -5
Yep.
Then again, I've never bought into the idea of Bray Wyatt to begin with.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 23, 2017 16:32:13 GMT -5
I don't buy it either. From a credibility standpoint it's not a stretch as he's always been booked strong. Like the guy literally probably doesn't even have double digit pinfall losses on television during his entire near four year run although people always complain about how weak he's booked and how he never wins (which is now even more ridiculous after his wins at Survivor Series and Elimination Chamber in which he was made to super strong in both). I don't know I guess I've been watching a different show for the last four years, at least when it comes to his booking. The reason I don't buy him as champion is because tt doesn't fit with his character and also because I just flat out don't think he's good enough. I've always just found the guy really overrated both in how management and most of the fans think of him. I just find his promos boring and overacted and as a wrestler he's only probably a little above average. I really can't think of many great single matches he's had other then the one with Daniel Bryan at Royal Rumble 2014.
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Post by Starshine on Feb 23, 2017 17:19:32 GMT -5
IMO it, along with the Orton Rumble win, doesn't feel earned. I'd argue that either one only makes sense in the context of the other happening. It wasn't like there was any notably strong groundswell for this feud that necessitated a top title being involved.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 23, 2017 17:23:55 GMT -5
I buy him fine. I think it ought to have came earlier, but it didn't come too late by any stretch to me.
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